sanewsguy 511 Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 P-N wouldn't have wanted 3 at all, Cox would run into a conflict of interest because it is the incumbent cable company in Phoenix, and Hearst has literally stood there and done nothing in this M&A wave. So what if Cox is the cable company in Phoenix? They're also the cable company in Tulsa and that didn't stop them from buying KOKI. It's been legal for a company to own a cable system and tv station in the same market for over ten years now. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/13176-meredith-to-buy-kmov-ktvk/page/4/#findComment-96618 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrtraveler01 738 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Yeah, and they seem to be using Arial a lot. Ugh. I agree, Arial makes the overall graphics look cheap compared to the font that the other Belo stations used. That said, I think KMOV could've done a better job with this package. The open also seems to butcher the music (which is still the same btw). I caught the 5pm newscast and recorded the first few minutes on my phone, they're downloading to Youtube now and as soon as it is done uploading, I will post it. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/13176-meredith-to-buy-kmov-ktvk/page/4/#findComment-96623 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleSeven 1955 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 I agree, Arial makes the overall graphics look cheap compared to the font that the other Belo stations used. That said, I think KMOV could've done a better job with this package. The open also seems to butcher the music (which is still the same btw). I caught the 5pm newscast and recorded the first few minutes on my phone, they're downloading to Youtube now and as soon as it is done uploading, I will post it. About the music, I don't have the problem with The Edge theme, but I do have a problem with how its being played. I watched the live stream of their 5 & 6pm tonight, and when I heard the bumper cue, it sounds like it goes uptempo then seconds later, it slows down, like someone playing it from a broken tape player. Whoever edited that cue, it sounds really irritating. As for the graphics, although they pulled a WWL in not animating their bug, I really hate how they're using a different font for the L3s, instead of the other font that most of the stations with this package is using, yet they do use that other font for other usage. I don't see a problem with the other font, unless some viewers or a CSD think its too small (I doubt it). I stand by what I said earlier. I don't think Meredith is going to keep these GFX on KMOV on the long term. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/13176-meredith-to-buy-kmov-ktvk/page/4/#findComment-96631 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrtraveler01 738 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 About the music, I don't have the problem with The Edge theme, but I do have a problem with how its being played. I watched the live stream of their 5 & 6pm tonight, and when I heard the bumper cue, it sounds like it goes uptempo then seconds later, it slows down, like someone playing it from a broken tape player. Whoever edited that cue, it sounds really irritating. As for the graphics, although they pulled a WWL in not animating their bug, I really hate how they're using a different font for the L3s, instead of the other font that most of the stations with this package is using, yet they do use that other font for other usage. I don't see a problem with the other font, unless some viewers or a CSD think its too small (I doubt it). I stand by what I said earlier. I don't think Meredith is going to keep these GFX on KMOV on the long term. I like The Edge as well, but you tacking the same criticism that I had with it, the open sounds more disjointed as if they had to cut it too short to fit the new graphic open. And I noticed the bumper cue as well, it does sound a little weird to me. I don't know why they decided to use Arial. The other font that the other Belo stations may be hard to read but I was able to manage. I just think there are a lot better alternatives than Arial. I'm hoping they get a new graphics package in addition to a new set similar to the one KCTV has once Meredith takes over (probably wishful thinking on my part). BTW: Here is the 5PM open from tonight's newscast (sorry for the crappy quality, I took it with my phone): Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/13176-meredith-to-buy-kmov-ktvk/page/4/#findComment-96636 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrtraveler01 738 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 KMOV is using the same font as the other former Belo stations do this morning. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/13176-meredith-to-buy-kmov-ktvk/page/4/#findComment-96648 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TVIntheDesert 183 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 In somewhat related news, KTVK has hired Brandon (Lee) Rudat to co-anchor the 4:30pm block of "Good Evening Arizona." It appears he is coming from soon-to-be-sister-station WGCL in Atlanta, where he left under some unclear circumstances. http://www.tvnewscheck.com/article/73453/ktvk-adds-brandon-lee-as-430-pm-anchor Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/13176-meredith-to-buy-kmov-ktvk/page/4/#findComment-96678 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrtraveler01 738 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 KMOV is using the same font as the other former Belo stations do this morning. And watching the 10PM newscast, they've gone back to Arial. So we know that they have the regular Belo font in their graphics program, they just decide to use Arial for whatever reason. The bug also now includes "KMOV.COM" below the "News 4" logo. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/13176-meredith-to-buy-kmov-ktvk/page/4/#findComment-96703 Share on other sites More sharing options...
damien6786 9 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Now they change the website replacing the St. Louis skyline with the graphics Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/13176-meredith-to-buy-kmov-ktvk/page/4/#findComment-96736 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleSeven 1955 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Now they change the website replacing the St. Louis skyline with the graphics They did that on the day the new graphics came about (Monday). Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/13176-meredith-to-buy-kmov-ktvk/page/4/#findComment-96740 Share on other sites More sharing options...
channel2 979 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 I think the Belo graphics usually use Akzidenz-Grotesk, not Arial. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/13176-meredith-to-buy-kmov-ktvk/page/4/#findComment-96790 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samantha 2896 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Yeah, and it's the condensed version. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/13176-meredith-to-buy-kmov-ktvk/page/4/#findComment-96791 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PupReporter 0 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Where does KSAZ stand in ratings overall? In terms of ranks, are they fifth? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/13176-meredith-to-buy-kmov-ktvk/page/4/#findComment-96972 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TVIntheDesert 183 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Where does KSAZ stand in ratings overall? In terms of ranks, are they fifth? KSAZ is definitely a top-four station, sign-on to sign-off. They do well in mornings, early-fringe, and late news. KTVK is not a top-four station anymore due to the rise of KTVW (Univision). Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/13176-meredith-to-buy-kmov-ktvk/page/4/#findComment-96974 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samantha 2896 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 KSAZ is definitely a top-four station, sign-on to sign-off. They do well in mornings, early-fringe, and late news. KTVK is not a top-four station anymore due to the rise of KTVW (Univision). Or KNXV could somehow be up there. But I would think that KTVW is such a strong station in the market (remember, it was alone for a couple decades, and for its first 28 years it was the only full-power Spanish station in the market). In either event the top six are KTVK, KPHO, KSAZ, KPNX, KNXV and KTVW. KTVK and one of the others are not top four. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/13176-meredith-to-buy-kmov-ktvk/page/4/#findComment-96986 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TVIntheDesert 183 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Or KNXV could somehow be up there. But I would think that KTVW is such a strong station in the market (remember, it was alone for a couple decades, and for its first 28 years it was the only full-power Spanish station in the market). In either event the top six are KTVK, KPHO, KSAZ, KPNX, KNXV and KTVW. KTVK and one of the others are not top four. I agree with you on who the "top six" are. I think KNXV is #6 because of their weak syndicated lineup. And, since ABC isn't nearly as strong of a network as CBS (except for news division). CBS' very popular primetime lineup is the only thing propping up KPHO. Otherwise they'd be out of the top four. 5's local newscasts don't have the viewer loyalty of KPNX or KSAZ (or even KTVK, despite their late news woes). Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/13176-meredith-to-buy-kmov-ktvk/page/4/#findComment-96988 Share on other sites More sharing options...
channel2 979 Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 Meredith now owns KMOV. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/13176-meredith-to-buy-kmov-ktvk/page/4/#findComment-99324 Share on other sites More sharing options...
damien6786 9 Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 Meredith owns KMOV now? Awesome Meredith will take good care of KMOV what about Phoenix? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/13176-meredith-to-buy-kmov-ktvk/page/4/#findComment-99326 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hathawaynson2 39 Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 Meredith now owns KMOV. It is official, KMOV and KCTV are officially sister stations at last and Katie Horner is again an Meredith employee. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/13176-meredith-to-buy-kmov-ktvk/page/4/#findComment-99327 Share on other sites More sharing options...
damien6786 9 Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 Actually The Deal was Approved Wednesday this is the consumation notice Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/13176-meredith-to-buy-kmov-ktvk/page/4/#findComment-99331 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samantha 2896 Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 Meredith owns KMOV now? Awesome Meredith will take good care of KMOV what about Phoenix? I would imagine it is caught in the informal moratorium that Wheeler has placed on television station sales involving JSAs. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/13176-meredith-to-buy-kmov-ktvk/page/4/#findComment-99332 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TVIntheDesert 183 Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 Meredith owns KMOV now? Awesome Meredith will take good care of KMOV what about Phoenix? Meredith is hit-or-miss. If they keep the current GM, they'll be fine. If they decide to bring in a Karpowicz lackey, watch out! They're very anti-diginet and pro-mobile DTV. Don't forget, the daily paid lifestyle show will have the name "Better" sooner than you know it! Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/13176-meredith-to-buy-kmov-ktvk/page/4/#findComment-99337 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrtraveler01 738 Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 Meredith is hit-or-miss. If they keep the current GM, they'll be fine. If they decide to bring in a Karpowicz lackey, watch out! They're very anti-diginet and pro-mobile DTV. Don't forget, the daily paid lifestyle show will have the name "Better" sooner than you know it! KMOV now needs a new news director now that the current one is going to Scripps. That will be a sign of how Meredith will run KMOV. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/13176-meredith-to-buy-kmov-ktvk/page/4/#findComment-99338 Share on other sites More sharing options...
damien6786 9 Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 Watching the end of KMOV 5pm newscast the copyright has ''2014 KMOV ST. LOUIS & MEREDITH CORPORATION'' Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/13176-meredith-to-buy-kmov-ktvk/page/4/#findComment-99348 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleSeven 1955 Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 The KMOV one was approved on Wednesday (about two months after the paperwork has been filed. THAT WAS FAST!!!!). The KTVK/KASW is still yet to be greenlighted. The good thing about this was that the KMOV paperwork weren't filed concurrently (or together, like these full group deals) with the KTVK/KASW apps. Otherwise, it would've been a longer wait (KASW app does have a proposed JSA, they'd amended that app four times, they'd just added the proposed JSA in their app last week, something Wheeler wants to curb). They also added the "Public Interest Statement", similar to what SagamoreHill did with Granite-Quincy related apps, pitching that their assignment are in the Public Interest, a proposal to add certain local programming, and work with Meredith to acquire local collegiate/high school sports programming. In the meantime, I'm hoping for much needed improvements for KMOV under the Meredith fold. Hoping for the best. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/13176-meredith-to-buy-kmov-ktvk/page/4/#findComment-99357 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasTVNews 1377 Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 Copyright changed on the KMOV site. ©2014 KMOV, The Meredith Corporation. All Rights Reserved. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/13176-meredith-to-buy-kmov-ktvk/page/4/#findComment-99358 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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