GroupWBZ 73 Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 i would like to ask, what is his basis for appealing? or is he appealing because the "judge got it wrong" ? Ansin's exact words were, in fact, "the judge got it all wrong." I assume the hope is that he gets in front of a judge less sympathetic to Comcast who will rule that the move to pull affiliation from WHDH is against "the public interest" (perhaps due OTA coverage issues). Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14838-boston-tv-crisis-whdh-and-wneu/page/31/#findComment-153674 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mre29 1537 Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 NBC is already having bad press in Boston, I don't think they'd want to give any more ammo by firing an entire news operation and other staffers. You missed what I was trying to say: Ansin bought WLVI, shut down its news operation, and laid off its entire staff despite the bad press he got for it. What makes you think NBC will act differently? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14838-boston-tv-crisis-whdh-and-wneu/page/31/#findComment-153682 Share on other sites More sharing options...
A3N 1002 Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 Well, NBC can't just come in and start firing staff right away- especially those under contract. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14838-boston-tv-crisis-whdh-and-wneu/page/31/#findComment-153683 Share on other sites More sharing options...
channel2 979 Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 Maybe they'd do something like how the KDVR-KWGN merger was handled, where a bunch of personalities from both stations ended up being common to both. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14838-boston-tv-crisis-whdh-and-wneu/page/31/#findComment-153684 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmediaguy 123 Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 Well, NBC can't just come in and start firing staff right away- especially those under contract. Of course they can! The ownership would cease to exist, just like those who worked under Tribune at WLVI. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14838-boston-tv-crisis-whdh-and-wneu/page/31/#findComment-153685 Share on other sites More sharing options...
channel2 979 Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 Oh yeah, WLVI's news staff were still legally employed by Tribune, weren't they? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14838-boston-tv-crisis-whdh-and-wneu/page/31/#findComment-153686 Share on other sites More sharing options...
A3N 1002 Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 Of course they can! The ownership would cease to exist, just like those who worked under Tribune at WLVI. Doesn't matter. Contracts still have to be honored, and layoff notices need to be given a certain amount ahead of time before they can take effect. My point is, that NBC cannot go in on day 1 of new ownership and tell everyone they're fired and walk away without having to pay up one way or another. They need to follow the aforementioned protocol. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14838-boston-tv-crisis-whdh-and-wneu/page/31/#findComment-153688 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbnews 344 Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 A bunch of people have been joining "NECN/NBC Boston" recently. Some big names are Phil Lipof, Shannon Mullaire, and Pete Bouchard. Are all of these people only on NECN for the time being? Will they ALL join NBC Boston in January? I was wondering if all these new hires are forming the NBC Boston team. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14838-boston-tv-crisis-whdh-and-wneu/page/31/#findComment-153891 Share on other sites More sharing options...
William1111 41 Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 Oh boy, good ol' Uncle Ed is having another (smaller) argument with a major corporation. This time it's a carriage dispute with AT&T owned DirecTV. http://whdh.com/news/important-information-for-directv-customers/ Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14838-boston-tv-crisis-whdh-and-wneu/page/31/#findComment-154744 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nathannah 2441 Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 My question is, do they have to have two different rate agreements on the new contracts, like one for NBC affiliation and one without? Certainly the cablecos aren't going to pay NBC rates for what will be a news heavy CW station and another station soon to be spectrum bait come January 1st. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14838-boston-tv-crisis-whdh-and-wneu/page/31/#findComment-154756 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eat News 4745 Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 Oh boy, good ol' Uncle Ed is having another (smaller) argument with a major corporation. This time it's a carriage dispute with AT&T owned DirecTV. http://whdh.com/news/important-information-for-directv-customers/ At least we got Ed to stop chasing the ice cream truck...and barking at the mailman. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14838-boston-tv-crisis-whdh-and-wneu/page/31/#findComment-154759 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColumbusNewsFan 217 Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 At least we got Ed to stop chasing the ice cream truck...and barking at the mailman. We're still working on getting him housebroken and that been a real pain in the behind. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14838-boston-tv-crisis-whdh-and-wneu/page/31/#findComment-154771 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Muck 4378 Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 A bunch of people have been joining "NECN/NBC Boston" recently. Some big names are Phil Lipof, Shannon Mullaire, and Pete Bouchard. Are all of these people only on NECN for the time being? Will they ALL join NBC Boston in January? I was wondering if all these new hires are forming the NBC Boston team. Check the local grocery stores come January. If any of those people are on the side of a milk carton, they must've joined NBC Boston Most of Manchester and Not Much Else. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14838-boston-tv-crisis-whdh-and-wneu/page/31/#findComment-155104 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Muck 4378 Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Well, NBC can't just come in and start firing staff right away- especially those under contract. Ed Ansin would have to honor the contracts and severance. Comcast only wants the license for WHDH and nothing else. IF Ed cracks and sells the station, WHDH would assume the "NBC Boston" intellectual property. "7 News" would disappear (or move to WLVI, presuming that Ed retains it). Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14838-boston-tv-crisis-whdh-and-wneu/page/31/#findComment-155105 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Adams 2 Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Info on the upcoming NBC affiliate change seems unusually quiet. Wonder what's going on in the background? Only five months remain.... Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14838-boston-tv-crisis-whdh-and-wneu/page/31/#findComment-155597 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BostonMediaWatch 1 Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 Mark, actually only a month and a half remains. Since all syndication contracts start in September, the station will go on the air as an independent station until the NBC affiliation officially moves over on January 1. But you are correct, information has been lacking. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14838-boston-tv-crisis-whdh-and-wneu/page/31/#findComment-155661 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jero23 105 Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 Ed Ansin would have to honor the contracts and severance. Comcast only wants the license for WHDH and nothing else. IF Ed cracks and sells the station, WHDH would assume the "NBC Boston" intellectual property. "7 News" would disappear (or move to WLVI, presuming that Ed retains it). I wouldn't be so quick to say that. It's very likely NBC would just add the "7" to the brand as "NBC 7 Boston" and "NBC 7 News" if they acquire the intellectual property of WHDH. I doubt Comcast/NBC Universal are just going to skewer the branding since most viewers in that market connect the "7 News" brand with the NBC affiliation. At one point from the late 1990s through 2007, the station used to always have the red "Circle 7" logo with the NBC Peacock and the station ID "WHDH-TV Boston" along with the NBC chimes in the first few seconds of the news open. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14838-boston-tv-crisis-whdh-and-wneu/page/31/#findComment-155714 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Muck 4378 Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 At one point from the late 1990s through 2007, the station used to always have the red "Circle 7" logo with the NBC Peacock and the station ID "WHDH-TV Boston" along with the NBC chimes in the first few seconds of the news open. That was more than likely an attempt to placate NBC by at least giving them some branding harmonization. And yes, NBC could change the branding of "NBC Boston" to "NBC 7 Boston" if they buy the WHDH license. But it would be run as an O&O, under O&O management, out of the NECN complex with no signs of "7 News." (And why would they even bother with the current "7 News?" TBH, Ed runs WHDH as much of an anti-O&O as possible, and would be neutered/bowdlerised under NBC's watch anyway.) That's really why NBC had been lowballing Ed. They only wanted the license, and wouldn't have bothered buying the intellectual property or taking up a lease to WHDH's studios... which reside in a building Ed owns. It's all about money and pride. Money and pride. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14838-boston-tv-crisis-whdh-and-wneu/page/31/#findComment-155735 Share on other sites More sharing options...
detroiter313 180 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 That was more than likely an attempt to placate NBC by at least giving them some branding harmonization. And yes, NBC could change the branding of "NBC Boston" to "NBC 7 Boston" if they buy the WHDH license. But it would be run as an O&O, under O&O management, out of the NECN complex with no signs of "7 News." (And why would they even bother with the current "7 News?" TBH, Ed runs WHDH as much of an anti-O&O as possible, and would be neutered/bowdlerised under NBC's watch anyway.) That's really why NBC had been lowballing Ed. They only wanted the license, and wouldn't have bothered buying the intellectual property or taking up a lease to WHDH's studios... which reside in a building Ed owns. It's all about money and pride. Money and pride. Just in case if Ed does not want to sell WHDH to NBC (mainly of fears of NBC "destroying" the tabloid look in favor of traditional and standardized ones), would NBCUniversal still make a play to put its affiliation on WNEU and boost the power? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14838-boston-tv-crisis-whdh-and-wneu/page/31/#findComment-155753 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cna247 174 Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 NBC Boston's worst kept secret is confirmed it seems. It will broadcast on WNEU. Harry Connick Jr.'s show "Harry" which was previously announced to be airing on NBC Boston daytime is now listed on the show's website as airing on WNEU-60 at 3pm. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14838-boston-tv-crisis-whdh-and-wneu/page/31/#findComment-155873 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Muck 4378 Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 Just in case if Ed does not want to sell WHDH to NBC (mainly of fears of NBC "destroying" the tabloid look in favor of traditional and standardized ones), would NBCUniversal still make a play to put its affiliation on WNEU and boost the power? "Boosting the power" of WNEU is impossible. It's locked in as a Manchester, NH station and will be forever. This is amounting to nothing more than a spite move on NBC's part, regardless of the hash marks for ratings the NECN newscasts will yield or the gobs of money that will be burned on this quixotic venture. There is no path to success for "NBC Boston," and everyone knows it. NBC Boston's worst kept secret is confirmed it seems. It will broadcast on WNEU. Harry Connick Jr.'s show "Harry" which was previously announced to be airing on NBC Boston daytime is now listed on the show's website as airing on WNEU-60 at 3pm. Good luck to the tens of people in Manchester who will be fortunate to see "Harry." Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14838-boston-tv-crisis-whdh-and-wneu/page/31/#findComment-155897 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardek1995 200 Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 At least we got Ed to stop chasing the ice cream truck...and barking at the mailman.We didn't do much else unfortunately. "Boosting the power" of WNEU is impossible. It's locked in as a Manchester, NH station and will be forever. This is amounting to nothing more than a spite move on NBC's part, regardless of the hash marks for ratings the NECN newscasts will yield or the gobs of money that will be burned on this quixotic venture. There is no path to success for "NBC Boston," and everyone knows it. Good luck to the tens of people in Manchester who will be fortunate to see "Harry." There is a path to success for it, but its purely on luck like the lottery or even gambling in the sin city. Otherwise, yeah, there is none. Worse yet, we couldnt, or if we could didnt, do anything about this to prevent to from happening. But I think there's still time left to solve it, and I think maybe we can make a difference. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14838-boston-tv-crisis-whdh-and-wneu/page/31/#findComment-155899 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eat News 4745 Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 We didn't do much else unfortunately. There is a path to success for it, but its purely on luck like the lottery or even gambling in the sin city. Otherwise, yeah, there is none. Worse yet, we couldnt, or if we could didnt, do anything about this to prevent to from happening. But I think there's still time left to solve it, and I think maybe we can make a difference. UNITY! Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14838-boston-tv-crisis-whdh-and-wneu/page/31/#findComment-155932 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardek1995 200 Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 UNITY! Who's with us?!! Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14838-boston-tv-crisis-whdh-and-wneu/page/31/#findComment-155938 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eat News 4745 Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 And it ain't over now. 'Cause when the goin' gets tough... [thinks hard] the tough get goin'! Who's with me? Let's go! What the fuck happened to the TVNT I used to know? Where's the spirit? Where's the guts, huh? "Ooh, we're afraid to go with you Mardek1995, we might get in trouble." Well just kiss my ass from now on! Not me! I'm not gonna take this. Ansin, he's a dead man! , Ailes dead! Redstone - Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14838-boston-tv-crisis-whdh-and-wneu/page/31/#findComment-155987 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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