almostlive 4 Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 I believe they were released September 24 last year. Negative. They were out by Sept. 1. http://www.tvnewscheck.com/article/97408/top-10-movement-in-new-nielsen-dma-ranks Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15861-2017-2018-dma-rankings-for-real-this-time/page/2/#findComment-183989 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 Nielsen has released the numbers to clients, the release to the public will follow shortly. There are a few interesting changes this year. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15861-2017-2018-dma-rankings-for-real-this-time/page/2/#findComment-183999 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMassMediaGeek 98 Posted September 15, 2017 Author Share Posted September 15, 2017 Nielsen has released the numbers to clients, the release to the public will follow shortly. There are a few interesting changes this year. Hm, I wonder what markets they are? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15861-2017-2018-dma-rankings-for-real-this-time/page/2/#findComment-184003 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMassMediaGeek 98 Posted September 19, 2017 Author Share Posted September 19, 2017 TV DMA Rankings have been released. Starts on Page 22 . This also has Radio market rankings as well, http://www.nielsen.com/content/dam/corporate/us/en/docs/nielsen-audio/market_populations_and_rankings_2017.pdf Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15861-2017-2018-dma-rankings-for-real-this-time/page/2/#findComment-184315 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRolyPoly 2416 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 TV DMA Rankings have been released. Starts on Page 22 . This also has Radio market rankings as well, http://www.nielsen.com/content/dam/corporate/us/en/docs/nielsen-audio/market_populations_and_rankings_2017.pdf Gainesville is growing! From #161 to #159... awesome! My former home market is still #16 while my second home market (Orlando) is still #18 and my third home market (Providence-New Bedford) is still #52. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15861-2017-2018-dma-rankings-for-real-this-time/page/2/#findComment-184324 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasTVNews 1377 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Happy that D/FW is still the top 5 market, and Houston now the 6th top market. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15861-2017-2018-dma-rankings-for-real-this-time/page/2/#findComment-184327 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cna247 174 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Gainesville is growing! From #161 to #159... awesome! My former home market is still #16 while my second home market (Orlando) is still #18 and my third home market (Providence-New Bedford) is still #52. What about your fourth, fifth, and sixth home markets? And is Miami no longer in your top 3 home markets since Gainesville is 1, Orlando is 2, and Providence is 3? Happy that D/FW is still the top 5 market, and Houston now the 6th top market. Apparently watching too much of that trash TV has affected your ability to read. Houston is DMA 7. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15861-2017-2018-dma-rankings-for-real-this-time/page/2/#findComment-184330 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelson R. 569 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 It seems that Raleigh-Durham has dropped a lot. It used to be right behind Charlotte, and for one year they were actually one spot ahead of them. EDIT: I didn't realize I was looking at radio. Charlotte is now at 23 and Raleigh-Durham is at 25. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15861-2017-2018-dma-rankings-for-real-this-time/page/2/#findComment-184331 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Former Member 207 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 It's pretty obvious that these numbers were curated prior to the hurricanes, but I think Houston might drop a bit in DMA rankings next TV season, maybe back down to 9th or 10th. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15861-2017-2018-dma-rankings-for-real-this-time/page/2/#findComment-184332 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breaking News 829 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 *Houston moves up #7 *San Fran/Oakland moves down #8 *Atlanta moves up #9 * Boston moves down #10 *Detroit has moved down #14 Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15861-2017-2018-dma-rankings-for-real-this-time/page/2/#findComment-184333 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProButtonPusher 230 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Interesting. While the population of the San Francisco / Oakland / San Jose market is much bigger than that of Washington, DC and Houston, the TVHH number is smaller -- perhaps due to the housing crisis in the Bay Area? (more roommates, housemates, etc. that are technically part of the same HH #?) Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15861-2017-2018-dma-rankings-for-real-this-time/page/2/#findComment-184336 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samantha 2895 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Other movers in the Top 50: Portland OR, 25 -> 22 (+3) (Charlotte, Pittsburgh and Raleigh-Durham each drop a spot) Nashville, 29 -> 27 (+2) (Indy and San Diego each drop one) Salt Lake City, 34 -> 30 (+4) (Hartford and Columbus OH drop 2 spots) Cincinnati, 36 -> 35 (Milwaukee drops to 36) West Palm Beach, 38 -> 37 (Greenville-Spartanburg-Asheville to 38) Jacksonville, 47 -> 42 (+5) (Hampton Roads drops 5; Grand Rapids and Birmingham up 1; Harrisburg drops 2; ABQ up 2; Piedmont Triad drops 2) Memphis returns to the Top 50 and displaces New Orleans Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15861-2017-2018-dma-rankings-for-real-this-time/page/2/#findComment-184337 Share on other sites More sharing options...
elfuego35 90 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Interesting. While the population of the San Francisco / Oakland / San Jose market is much bigger than that of Washington, DC and Houston, the TVHH number is smaller -- perhaps due to the housing crisis in the Bay Area? (more roommates, housemates, etc. that are technically part of the same HH #?) Perhaps...but with the Bay Area being Silicon Valley, and the Mountainous terrain of the market making it dificult to bring in OTA television, I'd imagine their are people who chose to get their TV only via Online sources, which Nelsen doesn't count as TV Viewership yet. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15861-2017-2018-dma-rankings-for-real-this-time/page/2/#findComment-184338 Share on other sites More sharing options...
d247 43 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Tulsa down from #58 to #62, while OKC stays put at #41. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15861-2017-2018-dma-rankings-for-real-this-time/page/2/#findComment-184340 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRolyPoly 2416 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 What about your fourth, fifth, and sixth home markets? And is Miami no longer in your top 3 home markets since Gainesville is 1, Orlando is 2, and Providence is 3? Apparently watching too much of that trash TV has affected your ability to read. Houston is DMA 7. Miami is still in my top 5, but is now at No. 2 with Orlando at 3 and Providence at 4. Should've said it that way. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15861-2017-2018-dma-rankings-for-real-this-time/page/2/#findComment-184341 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samantha 2895 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Perhaps...but with the Bay Area being Silicon Valley, and the Mountainous terrain of the market making it dificult to bring in OTA television, I'd imagine their are people who chose to get their TV only via Online sources, which Nelsen doesn't count as TV Viewership yet. I do think this is a methodology question. It's a really important one for Nielsen's entire future, too. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15861-2017-2018-dma-rankings-for-real-this-time/page/2/#findComment-184342 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMassMediaGeek 98 Posted September 19, 2017 Author Share Posted September 19, 2017 It seems that Raleigh-Durham has dropped a lot. It used to be right behind Charlotte, and for one year they were actually one spot ahead of them. EDIT: I didn't realize I was looking at radio. Charlotte moves up one spot to 23 and Raleigh-Durham stays at 25. Raleigh-Durham was #24 last season Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15861-2017-2018-dma-rankings-for-real-this-time/page/2/#findComment-184344 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelson R. 569 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Raleigh-Durham was #24 last season Fixed my post. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15861-2017-2018-dma-rankings-for-real-this-time/page/2/#findComment-184347 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEOMatrix 1299 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Youngstown is #117 Cleveland (my new home market) is #19 Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15861-2017-2018-dma-rankings-for-real-this-time/page/2/#findComment-184348 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowardSalwasser 28 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Fun fact: New York's DMA is bigger than the 66 smallest DMA's combined(7,074,250 vs. 7,070,170). Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15861-2017-2018-dma-rankings-for-real-this-time/page/2/#findComment-184350 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mre29 1522 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 I'm surprised that Boston is down to #10. On the other hand, it was #9 on the previous list. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15861-2017-2018-dma-rankings-for-real-this-time/page/2/#findComment-184351 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColtFromGulfcoast 708 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 I'll admit I don't pay attention to this as much as some people do but Austin has really been getting up there. I remember that they had been in the 50s at one point. They've impressed me. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15861-2017-2018-dma-rankings-for-real-this-time/page/2/#findComment-184353 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidwestTV 1232 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 KC stays at #33. Is there a list showing how much each market moved from last year? There usually is. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15861-2017-2018-dma-rankings-for-real-this-time/page/2/#findComment-184357 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eat News 4745 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 I do think this is a methodology question. It's a really important one for Nielsen's entire future, too. Unless Nielsen can find a workable metric that incorporates SM with a viewer metric...they they will be doomed and gone in within maybe 5 years on the TV side. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15861-2017-2018-dma-rankings-for-real-this-time/page/2/#findComment-184360 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eat News 4745 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 At the Nielsen /Station Owners pow-wow last spring some moron from Nexstar actually suggested that stations could adopt "The Honor System" of ratings measurement. "Everybody Gets A Trophy". Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15861-2017-2018-dma-rankings-for-real-this-time/page/2/#findComment-184361 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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