ABC 7 Denver 1717 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 What about Tegna? Tegna, I think, is in talks with Nexstar. What about Hearst, Scripps, or Graham? I would like to see Scripps liquidated. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16335-sinclair-and-tribune-part-2-the-redux/page/21/#findComment-208074 Share on other sites More sharing options...
channel2 979 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 Scripps has seen better days but I'm sure their absence would cause more problems for the landscape than it would solve... Fresh blood in management? A switch to one class of stock? I'd prefer that... Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16335-sinclair-and-tribune-part-2-the-redux/page/21/#findComment-208078 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LouGrant 14 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 Pardon me if this is a silly question, I'm new here. If the UHF discount is not reinstated, and the shell companies are coming under greater scrutiny, wouldn't this make it impossible for any of the larger companies to expand to any great degree? For example Fox, Nexstar, and Tegna are all very close to the 39% maximum. How on earth could Fox acquire the Tribune stations, or Tegna and Nexstar consider a merger without a change in the cap law? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16335-sinclair-and-tribune-part-2-the-redux/page/21/#findComment-208079 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eat News 4745 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 Scripps has seen better days but I'm sure their absence would cause more problems for the landscape than it would solve... Fresh blood in management? A switch to one class of stock? I'd prefer that... Ok Vaporizing would cause a few environmental and hazmat issues. So maybe that's too extreme. How about dropping reliance on social media, quit trying to "race" the internet on stories when you can be breaking your own original stories. Quit trying to shock everyone into thinking everyone is "up in arms" because a few "shots rang out" in a "usually quiet neighborhood".... Don't get so uptight if the crews smoke a little weed before a hairy liveshot in a crappy gang infested area...it mellows the crew out, and keeps them from throttling the producer screaming in her earpiece. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16335-sinclair-and-tribune-part-2-the-redux/page/21/#findComment-208080 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewsMaster 226 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 Scripps has seen better days but I'm sure their absence would cause more problems for the landscape than it would solve... Fresh blood in management? A switch to one class of stock? I'd prefer that... Agreed. The only reason Scripps gets a bad reputation on this forum is because of @EatNews' commentary of KGTV, which, despite being the dumpster fire that it is, is not representative of Scripps as a whole IMHO. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16335-sinclair-and-tribune-part-2-the-redux/page/21/#findComment-208083 Share on other sites More sharing options...
channel2 979 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 I thought it was also their decision to drop CBS Television Distribution's fare and replace it with their own cheaper, lower-quality stuff...and KMGH continuing to be KMGH, a raging dumpster fire (with signs of life lately however). Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16335-sinclair-and-tribune-part-2-the-redux/page/21/#findComment-208085 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyrannical bastard 3955 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 ...and we must not forget their "mis"management of founding station WEWS, especially with Lottery Ball 5... Given these new developments, if Sinclair survives these hearings, they'll really be hungry for their next move.... Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16335-sinclair-and-tribune-part-2-the-redux/page/21/#findComment-208087 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eat News 4745 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 Agreed. The only reason Scripps gets a bad reputation on this forum is because of @EatNews' commentary of KGTV, which, despite being the dumpster fire that it is, is not representative of Scripps as a whole IMHO. Don't blame me, Blame the viewers. BTW... Don't bother to tell KGTV that they have been OFF cable (COX N.Coastal San Diego ch1010) for 4 days now... Too bad nobody bothered to call them about it. I'm sure there is a perfectly good explanation as to why they have been off-cable Ch 1010 all week ... we all know there is not a single electronic component that can't be located and shipped within 24 hours. Don't tell KGTV ... I don't want to fan the flames of that dumpster fire. There goes that KBEX-TV News Unit-X Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16335-sinclair-and-tribune-part-2-the-redux/page/21/#findComment-208088 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TVIntheDesert 183 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 I thought it was also their decision to drop CBS Television Distribution's fare and replace it with their own cheaper, lower-quality stuff...and KMGH continuing to be KMGH, a raging dumpster fire (with signs of life lately however). At this point, I'd rather air "The List" then "Entertainment Tonight" with their obsessive coverage of Meghan Markle. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16335-sinclair-and-tribune-part-2-the-redux/page/21/#findComment-208092 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEOMatrix 1299 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 Agreed. The only reason Scripps gets a bad reputation on this forum is because of @EatNews' commentary of KGTV, which, despite being the dumpster fire that it is, is not representative of Scripps as a whole IMHO. That and stupidly dumping the Sony game shows for inbred programming such as The List and Let's Ask America and also ripping off Sinclair's NewsCentral with the revamped Now. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16335-sinclair-and-tribune-part-2-the-redux/page/21/#findComment-208093 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dman748 1256 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 Harry Jessell wrote an article about winners and losers with regards to the Sinclair-Tribune merger collapse, enjoy the article Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16335-sinclair-and-tribune-part-2-the-redux/page/21/#findComment-208096 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TVIntheDesert 183 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 Harry Jessell wrote an article about winners and losers with regards to the Sinclair-Tribune merger collapse, enjoy the article It seems that as both a Sinclair and FOX cheerleader, Mr. Jessell is torn by this news. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16335-sinclair-and-tribune-part-2-the-redux/page/21/#findComment-208097 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dman748 1256 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 It seems that as both a Sinclair and FOX cheerleader, Mr. Jessell is torn by this news. One thing I don't get is why is Standard is listed as a loser of this deal even though Jessell said that Standard could get stations from Tribune? It makes no sense to me whatsoever about Standard being a loser of the merger collapsing (even though they probably won't get Sinclair's stations from this) Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16335-sinclair-and-tribune-part-2-the-redux/page/21/#findComment-208098 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenShine9 1513 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 When do Sinclair's current licenses expire? It says they won't be able to renew them... Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16335-sinclair-and-tribune-part-2-the-redux/page/21/#findComment-208103 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dman748 1256 Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 When do Sinclair's current licenses expire? It says they won't be able to renew them... I could be wrong but it's anywhere between 2019 and 2023 is when the licenses expire, if Sinclair is told by the FCC they can't renew the licenses could the FCC actually break Sinclair up, or what can the FCC make Sinclair do if told they can't do the license renewals? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16335-sinclair-and-tribune-part-2-the-redux/page/21/#findComment-208104 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewsMaster 226 Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 It seems that as both a Sinclair and FOX cheerleader, Mr. Jessell is torn by this news. I don't think he's a Sinclair and Fox cheerleader; I simply think he's a fan of deregulation. I'll add one more winner to Jessell's column: Ed Ansin. He was almost stripped of his last Big 4 affiliation, and he still may be should Fox acquire Tribune, but at least he should be able to breathe a little bit easier for now. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16335-sinclair-and-tribune-part-2-the-redux/page/21/#findComment-208116 Share on other sites More sharing options...
H4UL4U 127 Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 Tegna, I think, is in talks with Nexstar. I would like to see Scripps liquidated. Nexstar is right at the cap. They may be in talks, but they'd be just that, talks. With the latest scrutiny against Sinclair expanding, Nexstar maybe hesitant to try and grow and further pass their mounting debt around... Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16335-sinclair-and-tribune-part-2-the-redux/page/21/#findComment-208118 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TVIntheDesert 183 Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 I don't think he's a Sinclair and Fox cheerleader; I simply think he's a fan of deregulation. Jessell makes sure there's a weekly article on his site (whether it's from Variety or Deadline Hollywood) that touts Fox News' dominance in the ratings, so I think he does believe in the "mainstream media is fake news" narrative. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16335-sinclair-and-tribune-part-2-the-redux/page/21/#findComment-208119 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dman748 1256 Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 Jessell makes sure there's a weekly article on his site (whether it's from Variety or Deadline Hollywood) that touts Fox News' dominance in the ratings, so I think he does believe in the "mainstream media is fake news" narrative. Then again there are articles that I've seen Jessell wrote I disagreed with but I thought he was spot on with his prediction that Sinclair-Tribune wouldn't be approved at the FCC but, what he didn't predict was the fact that the FCC would actually send the merger to an ALJ Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16335-sinclair-and-tribune-part-2-the-redux/page/21/#findComment-208140 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Muck 4378 Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 Jessell makes sure there's a weekly article on his site (whether it's from Variety or Deadline Hollywood) that touts Fox News' dominance in the ratings, so I think he does believe in the "mainstream media is fake news" narrative. You can be sympathetic to that belief and still write a column like he did admonishing Sinclair. It's by no means mutually exclusive. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16335-sinclair-and-tribune-part-2-the-redux/page/21/#findComment-208145 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Muck 4378 Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 When do Sinclair's current licenses expire? It says they won't be able to renew them... The licenses are on an individual basis, so if they admit to lying to the FCC again, you're talking about years and years of litigation and appeals on every single station. Sinclair, for all intents and purposes, needs to be on their best behavior at all times as a condition of getting their licenses renewed. Kinda like not getting caught with a toke before a probation officer. Point being, Sinclair screwed themselves in a way that their M&A days are pretty much done for good unless they engage in "clean" transactions with no divestitures necessary. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16335-sinclair-and-tribune-part-2-the-redux/page/21/#findComment-208146 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Muck 4378 Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 One thing I don't get is why is Standard is listed as a loser of this deal even though Jessell said that Standard could get stations from Tribune? It makes no sense to me whatsoever about Standard being a loser of the merger collapsing (even though they probably won't get Sinclair's stations from this) They're back at square one with no stations and have to start the process all over again with no guarantee they get any stations this time around. That would fall under any definition of a loss. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16335-sinclair-and-tribune-part-2-the-redux/page/21/#findComment-208147 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nathannah 2446 Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 Agreed. The only reason Scripps gets a bad reputation on this forum is because of @EatNews' commentary of KGTV, which, despite being the dumpster fire that it is, is not representative of Scripps as a whole IMHO. And most of the KGTV and other issues goes back to the McGraw-Hill days where it seems like them, KMGH and WRTV have had absent management going back at least a decade more concerned about their textbook business than anything else. A new company and management isn't a magic balm when there was dysfunction going on before an acquisition. This also applies to several of Journal's stations that seem to be resisting Scripps management styles and continuing to depend on old Journal management styles that have proven ineffective (WTMJ and WGBA to a T). Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16335-sinclair-and-tribune-part-2-the-redux/page/21/#findComment-208149 Share on other sites More sharing options...
channel2 979 Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 From what Weeters has said, Journal (or at least WTMJ and WGBA) was a mess, but at least they were a different owner. It'd be nice if they hadn't been run into the fucking ground. And yeah, McGraw-Hill was an also-ran for a long time. TV stations practically print money but the more time passes the more baffling it is that they didn't get out of the business before 2011. It feels like they would have been dead meat in the late '90s, or fed everything to private equity in 2007 or so. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16335-sinclair-and-tribune-part-2-the-redux/page/21/#findComment-208150 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eat News 4745 Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 And most of the KGTV and other issues goes back to the McGraw-Hill days where it seems like them, KMGH and WRTV have had absent management going back at least a decade more concerned about their textbook business than anything else. A new company and management isn't a magic balm when there was dysfunction going on before an acquisition. This also applies to several of Journal's stations that seem to be resisting Scripps management styles and continuing to depend on old Journal management styles that have proven ineffective (WTMJ and WGBA to a T). In the case of KGTV plenty of MGH management carried over into Scrapps...and continues into this day. ND becomes GM...etc. A few golden boys. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16335-sinclair-and-tribune-part-2-the-redux/page/21/#findComment-208151 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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