ToriElectra 292 Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 New York state has gotten fed up with Spectrum, and has revoked their authority to operate within the state: http://abc7ny.com/business/ny-kicks-spectrum-cable-out-of-state-revokes-merger-approval/3834286/ Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16559-spectrum-kicked-out-of-ny-state/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrtraveler01 738 Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 New York state has gotten fed up with Spectrum, and has revoked their authority to operate within the state: http://abc7ny.com/business/ny-kicks-spectrum-cable-out-of-state-revokes-merger-approval/3834286/ As it mentions in the article, not only does it serve the 5 boroughs of NYC, it also serves the main cities in upstate NY too (Buffalo, Syracuse, Albany, Rochester). So who'll fill the void? It's either going to be Comcast or possibly even Altice/Cablevision. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16559-spectrum-kicked-out-of-ny-state/#findComment-208773 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgie56 3304 Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 What about NY1? Will the state force them to sell it? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16559-spectrum-kicked-out-of-ny-state/#findComment-208779 Share on other sites More sharing options...
qunewsguy 377 Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 One can always hope for Cox to make a play. As a cable operator they're really solid. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16559-spectrum-kicked-out-of-ny-state/#findComment-208780 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgie56 3304 Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 One can always hope for Cox to make a play. As a cable operator they're really solid. Seconded. They are probably the most honest cable company in the industry. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16559-spectrum-kicked-out-of-ny-state/#findComment-208782 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMA 135 Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 Maybe NY1 can finally get rid of the Spectrum prefix Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16559-spectrum-kicked-out-of-ny-state/#findComment-208787 Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.L. Hughes 890 Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 One can always hope for Cox to make a play. As a cable operator they're really solid. I doubt Cox will expand into New York State... or at least New York City. I probably would lodge a bet that Altice would take over for Charter. They already have a presence in parts of the state, including the NYC outer boroughs and Long Island, plus Altice operates News 12 Networks, which mainly covers areas of the New York City area outside of Manhattan, which would make NY1 fit with them perfectly if this ruling forces Charter to sell it and the upstate Spectrum News channels. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16559-spectrum-kicked-out-of-ny-state/#findComment-208791 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PNart2 11 Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 They could, Cox have a somewhat sizable presence in Connecticut, but it’s not likely. I think it will be most likely Comcast, because it will probably be the easiest transition. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16559-spectrum-kicked-out-of-ny-state/#findComment-208793 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NowBergen 681 Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 As it mentions in the article, not only does it serve the 5 boroughs of NYC, it also serves the main cities in upstate NY too (Buffalo, Syracuse, Albany, Rochester). So who'll fill the void? It's either going to be Comcast or possibly even Altice/Cablevision. Actually it serves Manhattan, parts of Queens and the eastern part of Bergen County. The rest of Queens, Brooklyn, Bronx, and Bergen Country are all Altice so I could see Altice picking it up being continuous. Plus converting NY 1 to News12 would be easy since they are on each other's systems. But this is probably all moot. Charter I'm sure will negotiate with NY State. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16559-spectrum-kicked-out-of-ny-state/#findComment-208796 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PNart2 11 Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 Actually it serves Manhattan, parts of Queens and the eastern part of Bergen County. The rest of Queens, Brooklyn, Bronx, and Bergen Country are all Altice so I could see Altice picking it up being continuous. Plus converting NY 1 to News12 would be easy since they are on each other's systems. But this is probably all moot. Charter I'm sure will negotiate with NY State. Spectrum serves Staten Island as well. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16559-spectrum-kicked-out-of-ny-state/#findComment-208808 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadgeek Adam 170 Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 If you ask Scott Jones, Cox is selling its affiliates. Not sure if they'd openly do that or not. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16559-spectrum-kicked-out-of-ny-state/#findComment-208821 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCB4TV 347 Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 In addition to NY1, Charter also operates Spectrum News outlets in upstate New York in addition to 27% of SportsNet New York, would those have to be divested as well? I can see Cox converting the News Channels into YurView outlets with NBC Sports Group taking the SNY share and possibly rebranding as NBC Sports New York. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16559-spectrum-kicked-out-of-ny-state/#findComment-208829 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MXSans2 64 Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 Or Spectrum NY may become an independent provider...or maybe not as some companies like to aquire anything and everything. But for some reason if SpNY became independent from Charter, I would want it to take the Dimension Cable or Dimension name. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16559-spectrum-kicked-out-of-ny-state/#findComment-208842 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wabceyewitness 818 Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 Nothing will happen anytime soon. Charter Communications/Spectrum will first file an appeal within the 30 day timeframe they are allowed and this will then drag on in court. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16559-spectrum-kicked-out-of-ny-state/#findComment-208851 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PNart2 11 Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 In addition to NY1, Charter also operates Spectrum News outlets in upstate New York in addition to 27% of SportsNet New York, would those have to be divested as well? I can see Cox converting the News Channels into YurView outlets with NBC Sports Group taking the SNY share and possibly rebranding as NBC Sports New York. That depends on what the Mets want. They still have 65% ownership, so if they want to keep the SNY name, they can. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16559-spectrum-kicked-out-of-ny-state/#findComment-208852 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Rollo Smokes 260 Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 Spectrum serves Staten Island as well. You’re all partially right. See the attached map. Charter/Spectrum has all of Manhattan Island, Staten Island, Queens and north and western Brooklyn (specifically Greenpoint to Bay Ridge and points in between). The rest of Brooklyn, and all of the Bronx (including the Co-op City complex, whose system predated Cablevision’s arrival in NYC, and Manhattan's land-locked Marble Hill neighborhood) are Optimum TV. Having cleared that up, I would not want to see Altice/Optimum take over the Spectrum franchise and gain complete control of the city’s cable households. For one, they are horrible at customer service (though TWC was worse from what I heard), and their rates would all but certainly go up. It would also be bad news for NY1 and the upstate Spectrum News channels, which are still recovering from Spectrum’s love-it-or-hate-it makeover. They certainly would be decimated through a merger with News 12, and the cuts that would come with it. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16559-spectrum-kicked-out-of-ny-state/#findComment-208914 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wabceyewitness 818 Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 You’re all partially right. See the attached map. Charter/Spectrum has all of Manhattan Island, Staten Island, Queens and north and western Brooklyn (specifically Greenpoint to Bay Ridge and points in between). The rest of Brooklyn, and all of the Bronx (including the Co-op City complex, whose system predated Cablevision’s arrival in NYC) are Optimum TV. Having cleared that up, I would not want to see Altice/Optimum take over the Spectrum franchise and gain complete control of the city’s cable households. For one, they are horrible at customer service (though TWC was worse from what I heard), and their rates would all but certainly go up. It would also be bad news for NY1 and the upstate Spectrum News channels, which are still recovering from Spectrum’s love-it-or-hate-it makeover. They certainly would be decimated through a merger with News 12, and the cuts that would come with it. Fios is available in many areas of NYC. No one provider will gain complete control of the city’s cable households. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16559-spectrum-kicked-out-of-ny-state/#findComment-208916 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Rollo Smokes 260 Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 Except that FiOS is not traditional cable. And Verizon's agreement with NYC (and RCN's, for that matter) is distinct from the franchises held by Altice and Charter, and their predecessors. And there are still many pockets of the city where FiOS is unavailable for a variety of places, mostly older, privately-owned multi-unit buildings and co-op/condo complexes who have either: 1) no interest in FiOS from their tenants (they need approval from 60% of residents); or 2) property owners/landlords have refused to open their doors to FiOS due to exclusive deals they have with the cable franchisee. I spent a year working at Verizon doing FiOS installations, so I know this from first-hand experience, though i hope this has changed since l left Verizon a few years ago. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16559-spectrum-kicked-out-of-ny-state/#findComment-208917 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGSJenkins 435 Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 I doubt Cox will expand into New York State... or at least New York City. I probably would lodge a bet that Altice would take over for Charter. They already have a presence in parts of the state, including the NYC outer boroughs and Long Island, plus Altice operates News 12 Networks, which mainly covers areas of the New York City area outside of Manhattan, which would make NY1 fit with them perfectly if this ruling forces Charter to sell it and the upstate Spectrum News channels. Well, the News 12 name wouldn't work in the Binghamton area due to WBNG 12. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16559-spectrum-kicked-out-of-ny-state/#findComment-209004 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NowBergen 681 Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 If you ask Scott Jones, Cox is selling its affiliates. Not sure if they'd openly do that or not. Cox Cable is often mentioned as a target of Altice USA. Doubt Cox would buy any systems. I also doubt Charter will go away. They will pay a fine and go their merry way. When was the last time a cable franchise was actually stripped and resold? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16559-spectrum-kicked-out-of-ny-state/#findComment-209059 Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrabbleship 429 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 This would have consequences outside New York as well. Spectrum's Albany cluster also covers the ex-TWC systems in Massachusetts. This would cause a huge headache in Berkshire County given that: a) the ex-TWC systems would be hard to separate from the Albany cluster given that they have been established for some time, IIRC the Pittsfield headend dates back to the pre-Time Warner era. b) the ex-Charter systems are linked to Charter's Columbia County, NY division which triggered part of this mess to begin with. The other ex-TWC territory in Massachusetts, Athol/Orange, would be easy to deal with as it could be put in with Spectrum's Worcester cluster as it should be. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16559-spectrum-kicked-out-of-ny-state/#findComment-209164 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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