The Ever-Evolving Gray Graphics Situation...Thread

[MidwestTV 1229]

47 minutes ago, MichiganNewsGraphicsJunkie said:

OMG this was waaaaaaaayyyyyy overdue.... They were using a package from, when late 2000s, early 10s?

One thing that didn't change: Lazy 7-day Forecasts -- For years and years, their 7-day forecasts just look like this.. A suggestion of an even number or 10s, 20s, 30s, etc.. 

What a bizarre 7 day. No specific numbers, except for Wednesday night and Thursday? Everything else gives them a massive 10 degree range. And what exactly are 0s/-0s? Do they mean single digits? That should be 1s.

[T.L. Hughes 881]

21 minutes ago, MidwestTV said:

What a bizarre 7 day. No specific numbers, except for Wednesday night and Thursday? Everything else gives them a massive 10 degree range. And what exactly are 0s/-0s? Do they mean single digits? That should be 1s.

0s° mean plus single digits (1° to 9°) and -0s° mean minus single digits (-1° to -9°). It doesn’t make sense to use categorical temperature designations for the highs and lows since Michigan’s UP isn’t very large (not even markets like Los Angeles and San Francisco that have regional climate variability have stations that do this). Extended forecasts usually show forecast temps for the station’s primary cities of service/largest city.

Edited December 11, 2024 by T.L. Hughes

[GoldenShine_10 92]

10 minutes ago, T.L. Hughes said:

0s° mean plus single digits (1° to 9°) and -0s° mean minus single digits (-1° to -9°). It doesn’t make sense to use categorical temperature designations for the highs and lows since Michigan’s UP isn’t very large (not even markets like Los Angeles and San Francisco that have regional climate variability have stations that do this). Extended forecasts usually show forecast temps for the station’s primary cities of service/largest city.

 

Very lazy I agree, although there is usually quite a bit of variance between near the lake (i.e., Marquette city) and the interior, the latter of which can be brutally cold in the winter.

[MichiganNewsGraphicsJunkie 906]

38 minutes ago, GoldenShine_10 said:

 

Very lazy I agree, although there is usually quite a bit of variance between near the lake (i.e., Marquette city) and the interior, the latter of which can be brutally cold in the winter.

None of the stations in the Grand Rapids market do this... And there can be wild differences between Holland/Muskegon and Grand Rapids

[nathannah 2401]

2 hours ago, T.L. Hughes said:

0s° mean plus single digits (1° to 9°) and -0s° mean minus single digits (-1° to -9°). It doesn’t make sense to use categorical temperature designations for the highs and lows since Michigan’s UP isn’t very large.

And don't forget that there isn't as robust an observer network (or even WeatherBug) for smaller markets where you can confidently provide solid number ranges, the weather office has to cover a wider swath of geography with some variation, especially to the northwest of Marquette, and that this is usually an area that measures snow in the tens of inches rather than fractions. These broader ranges are pretty well expected and were still generally used in even middle markets up to the 2000s. Also WLUC does more detailed regional breakdowns outside the 7-day, along with with ski reports, so the finer details are in the forecast, if not in that graphic.

 

It's certainly better to provide a range rather than what stations do with those '(station number) degree guarantee', which pointlessly forces mets to have a solid number for the next day or else (most of them contribute to charity if they hit it but like most of these gimmicks such as 'round up for the hungry', just donate the money and do promos about the big donation).

[MichiganNewsGraphicsJunkie 906]

If they really felt like giving an ounce of energy to it, they "could" do a microclimate forecast like many of the CA stations do... Do a 7-Day for Lakeshore, Inland, and the Mountains to the West....

[GodfreyGR 650]

4 hours ago, MichiganNewsGraphicsJunkie said:

If they really felt like giving an ounce of energy to it, they "could" do a microclimate forecast like many of the CA stations do... Do a 7-Day for Lakeshore, Inland, and the Mountains to the West....

WLUC has a weather team of three- and one of them doubles as an MMJ. Far smaller department than most CA stations (KCAL has 7, for example, with some of them working 2 a shift) and the average salary for a TV met in the UP of Michigan is certainly far lower than that of one anywhere in CA.

I guess my point here with respect is that they "could" do the microclimate, but it's also for lack of better words an "I don't get paid enough to do the extra work" and/or "we don't have the staff/resources" situation. I would assume that those who have lived there a season or two know when it says "20's" if they are on the upper or lower bounds of that scale based on their geography to the lake.

[TennTV1983 801]

TIL the GrayONE package was not simply just a Matt Quinn job, but was a project done jointly with Tristan Bresnen.

 

Videos of Tristan's work can be found on his new website: http://www.redterror.tv

 

 

[aandersen93 5]

Meant to post this a while ago, but KOLN did some minor refinements to their graphics for the weather talent last month. Still using in house folks it seems, undoubtedly from the graphics hub staff I would bet, and still no Gray One but some minor elements of it show up in promos. They've also been still making new ones for thinks like their Night Beat and Morning Pulse streaming studio products.

GrayOne is nice, but I like this custom package even more. It continues to give them an identity of their own.

 

 

 

 

Edited December 14, 2024 by aandersen93

[nathannah 2401]

Just spotted on WBAY; ticker's made the change so we'll see if we get a launch today or before Christmas.

[LOWERCASE GUY 261]

3 hours ago, mrschimpf said:

Just spotted on WBAY; ticker's made the change so we'll see if we get a launch today or before Christmas.

That is their new severe weather ticker system Called MAX Alert Live. (We just updated here as well.) All Gray stations, when they switch over to MAL, will look like this regardless of whether they have GrayONE or not. (Some stations still have the old :LIVEWire system and have not converted over to the new software yet.)

[T.L. Hughes 881]

30 minutes ago, LOWERCASE GUY said:

That is their new severe weather ticker system Called MAX Alert Live. (We just updated here as well.) All Gray stations, when they switch over to MAL, will look like this regardless of whether they have GrayONE or not. (Some stations still have the old :LIVEWire system and have not converted over to the new software yet.)

Based on the similarities in the ticker layout, I’m assuming MAX Alert Live is the same alert system that Nexstar uses on most of its stations (like KFOR and KFDX).

Edited December 18, 2024 by T.L. Hughes

[TheRolyPoly 2356]

We got another new GrayONE client... WTOK Meridian, Miss.

 

 

[Kingpeytonifx 6]

I noticed that KALB-TV in Alexandria has started incorporating some elements of GrayOne into their weather segments. Recently, the station rebranded their weather team from "First Alert Storm Team" to "First Alert Weather."

I managed to take a few screenshots from Zeam to capture the changes. Has anyone else noticed this or seen similar updates at other Gray stations?  

[ctmajka 112]

On 1/15/2025 at 8:39 PM, TheRolyPoly said:

We got another new GrayONE client... WTOK Meridian, Miss.

 

 

GOD that 11 logo is so bad.

[tyrannical bastard 3931]

48 minutes ago, ctmajka said:

GOD that 11 logo is so bad.

It goes back to the 80s-90s....if you think it's bad now...
 

Now their WLBT simulcasts will blend right in....

[Kingpeytonifx 6]

"WTAP in Parkersburg, WV, has started using the First Alert Weather brand, and I noticed GrayOne elements in their forecast graphics. I took a few screenshots from WTAP’s YouTube channel to document the change. Could this be a sign that GrayOne is coming to WTAP? I just hope they keep Newswire! Has anyone else noticed this update?"

 

 

 

Edited February 5 by Kingpeytonifx

[TheRolyPoly 2356]

Ii debuted at 1pm PT but here's the 2pm PT open. Welcome to GrayONE, KVVU.

 

 

[Kingpeytonifx 6]

WCTV 6 just got the new GrayOne graphics today! I recorded the update from Zeam to capture the changes. It’s interesting to see more stations rolling out the new look. Has anyone else noticed this? What do you think of the new design? They have also gotten new music.  "

Edited February 6 by Kingpeytonifx

[TheRolyPoly 2356]

Another day, another new GrayONE client. This time... WCTV Thomasville/Tallahassee.

 

https://www.wctv.tv/2025/02/06/welcome-new-era-wctv/

 

 

[Kingpeytonifx 6]

I noticed that WBKO has started incorporating GrayOne into their weather graphics and station IDs, though it hasn’t debuted yet. I made a video and took a screenshot to document the changes. Looks like an update is coming soon! Has anyone else noticed this at other Gray stations?

[MichiganNewsGraphicsJunkie 906]

13 hours ago, Kingpeytonifx said:

I noticed that WBKO has started incorporating GrayOne into their weather graphics and station IDs, though it hasn’t debuted yet. I made a video and took a screenshot to document the changes. Looks like an update is coming soon! Has anyone else noticed this at other Gray stations?

Yes many Gray stations will usually start integrating GrayOne with the weather intros and updated logos... Update is iminent, but could be 1 week, could be another month.. WNEM was using GrayOne Weather Intros for well over a month before switching over...

[TheRolyPoly 2356]

Yeah. Same thing with WCJB. Some bumpers, IDs, and promos with GrayONE but nothing more. It has been more than a month too that WCJB has had them but as always, implementation takes time, whether its weeks or even months.

[TheRolyPoly 2356]

Let's welcome KKCO/KJCT Grand Junction to the GrayONE party.

 

 

 

 

[appleachian 131]

WITN changed their slogan from "Most Watched, Most Trusted" to "First Alert" - what a terrible slogan for the station as a whole.

 

Still using the same blue graphics package.