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Robin Roberts and George Stephanopoulos are quite different in personality, interests, demeanor, affect, etc and have been number 1 for years. Gayle King and Charlie Rose were pretty dissimilar but helped CBSTM rise steadily. You don't need people who are carbon copies of one another. Your argument that the three on CNN never truly seemed interested in making the show work nor supporting each other is not a factual one. Poppy and Kaitlan were and are close friends; their chemistry has always been evident. Don may have been an issue but could have been replaced with someone else from inside or outside the network.

Could CNN just admit they made a huge mistake & bring back Robin Meade

No amount of time could have saved the first incarnation of CNN This Morning. Don, Poppy and Kaitlan were (are) polar opposites of each other and never truly seemed interested in making the show work nor supporting (uplifting) each other in any way from the beginning. Of course building chemistry takes time, but everyone has to be willing to do the work and I never got that from them. It was a pain to watch.

I would literally pay extra for a 'clean feed' with just a simple scorebug and no tickers; every new sports service seems to think it's required to appeal to the 'prop bet on random Bangladeshi netball at 4:30 in the morning' category of bettors. I really hope that information isn't baked into the video of this service.

Okay so we can stop this whole "XXXX" removed the NBC/CBS logo and make this thread longer than it already is, I spent the last 90 minutes going to every Gray owned and/or operated NBC website. I went to the livestream tab and watched the latest newscast to get the most accurate info. As you can see by the table I made, 99.5% of the staions have removed the NBC peacock from the station logo and branding. I can also verify that a good chunk of the CBS stations have also removed the CBS eye from the station logos (no I won't do a table). Wikipedia and Logopedia are NOT the best source for this info, as I found most of the station pages have NOT been updated to reflect the removals. I propose from here on out, let's stop posting that station XXXX has removed the peacock or eye from the logo. Unless the station completely revamps the logo, let's just know that this is now verified that Gray is removing NBC/CBS logos (ABC/FOX are unknown at this time)...

I think these look pretty good, actually. I like the different colors highlighting certain stories, a nice addition if you're just glancing at the screen and decide you want to focus more on a campaign or money story.

If I remember correctly, Morning Express was often beating New Day in the ratings. Too bad Licht was focused on cloning CBS This Morning. What's Meade doing these days, anyway? Maybe she's available... From the Variety article: This would be a damn good time to finish killing off HLN.

They could have saved so much headache if they just moved Robin Meade to CNN instead of letting her go.

Wow, lots of changes again. Very unstable. I feel bad for Poppy and especially Phil, who gave up his (chief?) White House correspondent role and moved his family to New York only to be screwed over a few months later. I hope they are both taken care of as they are both excellent talents and have done everything asked of them. John Berman and Kate Bolduan both separately served as co-anchors of the previous New Day, so this is a return to the timeslot for both of them. Surprised they're keeping the CNN This Morning name at all. Also interesting that the new morning show, News Central, will be 7-10. They briefly had their morning show (I think during the Soledad O'Brien days?) run at these times but eventually moved it back to 6-9. They're replacing one Chris Licht creation with another. And now CNN Newsroom makes its return to weekdays. Am I correct that only three hours of morning/daytime programming will be anchored from NY now, with the rest from DC, until 7pm? Overall, this seems like a massive cut rather than an investment in mornings.

Not sure if this is is a harbinger of new graphics... WISN has a very competent Creative Services team, and this is pre-produced. This seems in line with their recent promo work as well, and if you look closely, there are still a lot of the design language of the current "diagrid" package within those. Plus, WISN has a history of straying from the standard graphics """mandate""", so...

From The ABC Owned Television Website: WLS TV (ABC 7 Chicago): ----------------- WABC TV (ABC 7 New York): These are the official logos from the ABC O&O website. WLS on top, WABC on bottom. There are some differences. But largely they are identical.

Bit of a shame. I may be in the minority, but I think the first incarnation of CNN This Morning with Poppy Harlow, Don Lemon, and Kaitlan Collins was a quality product that just needed time. The three of them each brought something -- Poppy as a longtime anchor with a business acumen, Kaitlan as an incisive political questioner, and Don as an older guy attuned to social issues with an ability to humanize. Yes, Lemon stuck his foot in his mouth one too many times, but in the three of them you really had an ensemble of three smart anchors with different yet complementary skills. When there wasn't off-camera acrimony or awkward on-camera blunders, the three actually did have good TV chemistry. To be clear, I'm not saying they should've kept Don. Just lamenting the show's potential, had things worked properly. Firing Don and plucking Kaitlan off was a one-two punch to the show. Then it never got the new set it was promised. Then they decided to return to a stale two-anchor format, and plopped in Phil Mattingly who has a goofy sense of humor and a great political acumen but is still somewhat awkward at the anchor desk and plays too much "inside baseball" when asking questions during his political interviews, which works for a midday show but not for morning. The morning warmth disappeared from the show and it started to feel like any other two-anchor show of CNN's prior days. Something else that's telling. After deciding to move News Central up, they could have moved Poppy and Phil from the morning slot into the 10a-noon slot, either together or each with their own show. Instead, they completely took them off the schedule, brought Acosta over from the weekend, and gave Pamela her own show. Apparently someone decided Poppy and Phil have had enough.

Have heard a few people call this the official death of local TV

Another thing I noticed: KNEP is consider to be in the Denver market (that market is enormous in size and that is not where it should be, but Nielsen sees it differently). That's a huge amount of cap space used for a station that covers 0.1% of the DMA. That would allow Gray enough space to, once it pays down enough debt, make some other spot acquisitions. For example, KPTV could use some company in the Northwest, and there are a few stations out there they could buy.

Hate to speculate but…Diagrid V.1 graphics came out in 2012. The refresh came out in 2018. Potential 2024 refresh based on the 6 year cycle?