Weeters 1812 Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 No thanks to Michael P Hill being an ass and linking to the Vimeo video, CBS made it private I thought he got it from his "CBS Sources" which just happened to leak it to him the day after HulkieD found it and we posted about it??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCAUTVNBC10 408 Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 That was a typo on his part. He meant CVS sources Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jess 1110 Posted September 17, 2013 Author Share Posted September 17, 2013 Plus, if he had not had gotten the video from his "CBS Sources", he would have noticed the numerous instances of KYW Fail throughout the day. They're using five logos simultaneously at this point, they're running syndicated promos with these graphics at the end, they somehow managed to trigger the new bug during the EAS test, and their lineup stills - still using the Creepy Glass Eye - have a gigantic White/Gold Eye-3 with "EYEWITNESS NEWS" underneath. Oh, and let's not mention the mysterious EWN logo animation that randomly popped up that used the generic animate in for promos - but with the box design. And yes, the EXPECT MORE ads. They're... okay. But they highlight their lack of talent. One of the spots has generic testimonials, then a flashy montage of Diana Rocco. Who, immediately after this promo airs, goes on to say that Governor Corbett is offering healthcare "to millions of Pennsylvanias". So yeah, they're right. I do expect more from a newscast. Like, quality anchors who don't mess up lines, branding strategies that aren't what the boss pulls out of his ass one day, and showing us they're doing more, not blowing ad money on a really crappy campaign. Come to think of it, that sounds like the newscast I'm watching, WCAU... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A3N 996 Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Yup, I guess those "sources" were the ones who would "mysteriously" lift screen grabs from TVNT and then put them on his site. Even FTVLive linked to his article/website on the new graphics.He has to be getting some kind of kickback from TVNewscheck since they're constantly linking to his website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABC 7 Denver 1562 Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 That's interesting. Does anyone know when the new set is scheduled to debut? Same time as the graphics. Either Sunday or Monday (9/22-9/23). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jess 1110 Posted September 17, 2013 Author Share Posted September 17, 2013 So, some of that KYW fail. As I already noted, most endboards are now in place for their syndicated shows. The exception is Dr. Phil, which boasts the Glass Eye and a blue boxed KYW logo. At around 2:30, the station aired its EAS est. For whatever reason, it triggered the bug - not the current one but the new design! I've boxed it and enlarged it for detail here: Nothing else until newscast time. They run a lineup, usually with a sponsor's name that animates to the left of the schedule. When it's unsponsored, they just show the version with the 3's attached "HD" tumor. Today, though, we saw this: They also had a new teaser graphic they showed during Queen Latifah and Dr. Phil. It's the box logo, but they animate in like the CBS 3 logo does in the promos. Something tells me Peter Dunn told them to go gold... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24994J 5280 Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Okay HulkieD, as the unofficial premier authority on Philly television, which version of the current CBS3 logo would you prefer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJTWX 2 Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 The question now is will WJZ implement these or stick to the same multicolor scheme they've been using for a while. In my opinion, I think WJZ would get these graphics. However, do you guys think that they will get a new logo along with the gfx? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoffrey 779 Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 What's wrong with that CBS eye KYW is using in that logo? It looks "fake" to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24994J 5280 Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 What's wrong with that CBS eye KYW is using in that logo? It looks "fake" to me. As I recall, there are two versions of the iconic eye. One is designed for regular use, the other is a modified version that shows a more noticeable gap between the eyelid and the pupil. The latter is designed to be used for smaller applications, like the bug. But don't hold me to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
groupwfan 95 Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 In my opinion, I think WJZ would get these graphics. However, do you guys think that they will get a new logo along with the gfx? I think they should have the "13" in Gotham or in the same font that the sister station north along I-95, KYW's been using for their "3" logo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrelevator 28 Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Meanwhile, on the other side of Pennsylvania.... KDKA hasn't shown any indication that they're picking up the new CBS look. Then again, they didn't show any indication that they were changing to the current look either when it debuted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJTWX 2 Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 I think they should have the "13" in Gotham or in the same font that the sister station north along I-95, KYW's been using for their "3" logo. I agree with you. And it should be gold too. Some might be mad when I say this, but the Group W font 13 is getting OLD to look at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoffrey 779 Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 As I recall, there are two versions of the iconic eye. One is designed for regular use, the other is a modified version that shows a more noticeable gap between the eyelid and the pupil. The latter is designed to be used for smaller applications, like the bug. But don't hold me to it. You're right, though I wonder if that still applies with HD programming. Either way, the alternate logo should not be used on a full screen, as it is in the second image HulkieD posted. It looks bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJTWX 2 Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 KCNC seems to have quasi-implemented these. There are some "Colorado FLOODS" graphics with the blue-yellow-white scheme set in Gotham. I seen that on CBSDenver.com. The EXPECT MORE ads. What are those all about anyway? I know KDKA has their own version of those promos, and I really don't get what they mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24994J 5280 Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 You're right, though I wonder if that still applies with HD programming. Either way, the alternate logo should not be used on a full screen, as it is in the second image HulkieD posted. It looks bad. I'm not losing it! [yt]n_w4oSCJIQk[/yt] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
groupwfan 95 Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 That also makes me wonder if KOIN Local6 (one of the two non-O&Os that is using the current GFX) would get the new GFX and switch their L3s back to Gotham (that's what KOIN did when they had the TVbD/JCbD GFX) or they would go back using the TVbD GFX like WKBN's STILL using(!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABC 7 Denver 1562 Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 That also makes me wonder if KOIN Local6 (one of the two non-O&Os that is using the current GFX) would get the new GFX and switch their L3s back to Gotham (that's what KOIN did when they had the TVbD/JCbD GFX) or they would go back using the TVbD GFX like WKBN's STILL using(!) I suspect that KOIN is going to stick with what they have. The yellow/orange is not befitting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jess 1110 Posted September 17, 2013 Author Share Posted September 17, 2013 Okay HulkieD, as the unofficial premier authority on Philly television, which version of the current CBS3 logo would you prefer? Honestly, of the versions right now? I actually like the gold 3. It makes the channel number stand out a lot more since it's the same size as the eye. Plus, on a personal level it reminds me of the WCAU logo from 1991ish, which I love: However, if I could use past variations, since technically the logo is ten years old now, I'd use this one: That one I really liked. It's based off the WCBS logo at the time, but they made it more distinct by reversing the colors on the "CBS" part. (BTW, thanks for the new slogan that's going in my sig.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swillh2k2 203 Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Honestly, of the versions right now? I actually like the gold 3. It makes the channel number stand out a lot more since it's the same size as the eye. Plus, on a personal level it reminds me of the WCAU logo from 1991ish, which I love: WCAU as CBS--those were the good old days... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABC 7 Denver 1562 Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 WCAU as CBS--those were the good old days... If you say so... Actually, I kind of like Denver television the way it is, affiliation-wise. And it's all thanks to the Westinghouse-CBS merger, and NBC's desire for a Philly station! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
groupwfan 95 Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 I suspect that KOIN is going to stick with what they have. The yellow/orange is not befitting. If they would call JCB and have him to revise his original GFX package without the Yellow/Orange variation. Make it more less like an "O&O-ish" package. No offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samantha 2878 Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 If they would call JCB and have him to revise his original GFX package without the Yellow/Orange variation. Make it more less like an "O&O-ish" package. No offense. I think he's retired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Muck 4225 Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 In my opinion, I think WJZ would get these graphics. However, do you guys think that they will get a new logo along with the gfx? Not as long as K. C. Robertson remains as WJZ's creative services director. K. C. had enough influence to prevent the first graphics/music standardization on WJZ (and remember, WBZ, KCNC and WFOR fought tooth and nail to retain elements of their previous identities before ultimately caving) and he has a really good shot of keeping this standardization from being implemented. I think they should have the "13" in Gotham or in the same font that the sister station north along I-95, KYW's been using for their "3" logo. I agree with you. And it should be gold too. Some might be mad when I say this, but the Group W font 13 is getting OLD to look at. That isn't a genuine rendition of the Group W font... more like a crudely redrawn variant. Compare the current "13" to the "13" seen in YouTube videos from the 1980s and 1990s. It's depressing to look at. What WJZ should do is revert the "13" to the ORIGINAL typeface, colored in gold, and paired with the CBS eye. Similar to what KPIX successfully did earlier this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swillh2k2 203 Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 If you say so... Actually, I kind of like Denver television the way it is, affiliation-wise. And it's all thanks to the Westinghouse-CBS merger, and NBC's desire for a Philly station! I think you missed the reference. The vets will know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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