Breaking News 829 Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Jim Rogers dies at 75 and the station has a whole tribute on the station web page. http://www.mynews3.com/default.aspx Meanwhile over at Newsblues.com today headline read- Monday 6.16.2014 Legendary Las Vegas station owner dead at 75 Will sale of station to Sinclair follow? Newsblues speculation is Sinclair would buy Channel 3/NBC affiliate and off course Sinclair owns (2) stations in that market. Thoughts? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/13672-knsv-owner-dies-jim-rogers/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
effseesee 101 Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Newsblues reported last week about Rogers being in the ICU and Sinclair suits visiting the station, to the surprise of the GM. Article today notes that David Smith was at the station last week. http://www.reviewjournal.com/columns-blogs/norm-clarke/channel-3-faces-cloudy-future-after-jim-rogers-death Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/13672-knsv-owner-dies-jim-rogers/#findComment-107153 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenShine9 1513 Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 KLAS is up in the air too. Things could get interesting in Vegas... KVVU and KTNV must be loving this. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/13672-knsv-owner-dies-jim-rogers/#findComment-107156 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleSeven 1955 Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Newsblues reported last week about Rogers being in the ICU and Sinclair suits visiting the station, to the surprise of the GM. Article today notes that David Smith was at the station last week. http://www.reviewjournal.com/columns-blogs/norm-clarke/channel-3-faces-cloudy-future-after-jim-rogers-death Ahhhh PLEASE!!! Not this devil. Anybody, but those devils. Beverly, if you have any heart, you wouldn't sell the house that your husband Jim built to these devilish Heathens, Sincrap. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/13672-knsv-owner-dies-jim-rogers/#findComment-107157 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrtraveler01 738 Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Jim Rogers dies at 75 and the station has a whole tribute on the station web page. http://www.mynews3.com/default.aspx Meanwhile over at Newsblues.com today headline read- Monday 6.16.2014 Legendary Las Vegas station owner dead at 75 Will sale of station to Sinclair follow? Newsblues speculation is Sinclair would buy Channel 3/NBC affiliate and off course Sinclair owns (2) stations in that market. Thoughts? Sinclair is probably the likely buyer, especially since they own KRNV. So this means that they'll try the same stunt in Vegas that they're trying in Charleston and Birmingham. Which means they might surrender the KSNV license and try moving the NBC programing to either KVCW or KVMY. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/13672-knsv-owner-dies-jim-rogers/#findComment-107159 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleSeven 1955 Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Sinclair is probably the likely buyer, especially since they own KRNV. So this means that they'll try the same stunt in Vegas that they're trying in Charleston and Birmingham. Which means they might surrender the KSNV license and try moving the NBC programing to either KVCW or KVMY. That transaction (which KRNV was to be assigned by Cunningham) hasn't be greenlight, even though Sinclair did get the non-licensed assets. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/13672-knsv-owner-dies-jim-rogers/#findComment-107160 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TVIntheDesert 183 Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Sinclair is probably the likely buyer, especially since they own KRNV. So this means that they'll try the same stunt in Vegas that they're trying in Charleston and Birmingham. Which means they might surrender the KSNV license and try moving the NBC programing to either KVCW or KVMY. Call me crazy, but Sinclair could purchase BOTH KSNV and KLAS and put CBS and NBC on their currently-owned UHF's. It's a far-out idea, but I'd call it the "Raycom Hawaii" option. Then again, the outrage if this would happen would be ten times that of Raycom Hawaii. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/13672-knsv-owner-dies-jim-rogers/#findComment-107162 Share on other sites More sharing options...
swillh2k2 203 Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Question for everyone who is anti-Sinclair buying stations-- Isn't a two way street? Meaning, doesn't there have to be mutual interest from both sides for a station sale to take place? You'd think if Sinclair was this big, bad reviled company that station owners would just say "No" to any acquisitions. From the way some people make it sound on here, Sinclair's just swooping in and grabbing whatever they can without any resistance. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/13672-knsv-owner-dies-jim-rogers/#findComment-107164 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weeters 1916 Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Yeah, this station would surely go to hell if Sinclair bought it. Maybe they'd buy them a better capture card so the videos on their website didn't look like they were dubbed off a VHS tape. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/13672-knsv-owner-dies-jim-rogers/#findComment-107168 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TennTV1983 804 Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Whatever happens in terms of ownership, I think the plan to replace all syndicated programming on KSNV with news may wind up getting scrapped altogether. In Sinclair's case, they would have another outlet to park whatever syndicated shows are on KVCW and KVMY. One thing we all are forgetting is that KSNV is the last remaining unsold part of Jim Rogers' Intermountain West Communications (much like KLAS is the last remaining broadcast asset of Landmark Communications). Since Sinclair has already agreed to purchase KSNV's sister stations, KRNV and KENV, they figure it's a no-brainer they should get KSNV outright as well in order to make their Nevada news operations whole. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/13672-knsv-owner-dies-jim-rogers/#findComment-107182 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Former Member 207 Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 Whatever happens in terms of ownership, I think the plan to replace all syndicated programming on KSNV with news may wind up getting scrapped altogether. In Sinclair's case, they would have another outlet to park whatever syndicated shows are on KVCW and KVMY. The Sinclair Vegas duo do have plently of syndicated output, and I imagine that they picked-up some leftovers from KTUD when that station shut down earlier this year. I do know that some of KTUD's syndicated shows ended up on a subchannel of KGNG, a low-powered station on Channel 47 (with probably the most poorly-designed website I've ever seen--it looks like something circa 2000). I'm sure that whomever takes over KSNV will probably go back to a more conventional schedule fit for a network affiliate. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/13672-knsv-owner-dies-jim-rogers/#findComment-107198 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samantha 2896 Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 One thing we all are forgetting is that KSNV is the last remaining unsold part of Jim Rogers' Intermountain West Communications (much like KLAS is the last remaining broadcast asset of Landmark Communications). Since Sinclair has already agreed to purchase KSNV's sister stations, KRNV and KENV, they figure it's a no-brainer they should get KSNV outright as well in order to make their Nevada news operations whole. I don't think any of us are forgetting that KSNV is the last IWCC station to have not been sold. The second-to-last was Helena, where Rogers had a summer home, and I do not think that is a coincidence. The order in which IWCC sold its stations has been deliberate, from the outside in. The intense speculation about the possibilities for KSNV is a consequence of the piecemeal dismantling of the station group, as well as the additional pressures created by Rogers's death. I certainly think Sinclair is the forerunner for KSNV. They have cultivated a business relationship with IWCC as a result of the Reno sale, and if Beverly/Jim's estate finds it more beneficial to their tax portfolio to sell the station on short notice, that makes SBG an even more viable buyer. Sinclair has existing operations in the market with which it can generate positive cash flow, it owns Reno, and as much as we dislike them, Sinclair has a lot of experience in running television stations. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/13672-knsv-owner-dies-jim-rogers/#findComment-107207 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mre29 1537 Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 ...KGNG' date=' a low-powered station on Channel 47 (with probably the most poorly-designed website I've ever seen--it looks like something circa 2000). Holy crap, that site's BAD. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/13672-knsv-owner-dies-jim-rogers/#findComment-107221 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkolsen 1684 Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 Newsblues reported last week about Rogers being in the ICU and Sinclair suits visiting the station, to the surprise of the GM. Article today notes that David Smith was at the station last week. http://www.reviewjournal.com/columns-blogs/norm-clarke/channel-3-faces-cloudy-future-after-jim-rogers-death Am I the only one that finds it incredibly low and tacky that once Sinclair got wind of his illness they visited the station? Are they that desperate? I know it's business but it's like a crow circling a dying prey. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/13672-knsv-owner-dies-jim-rogers/#findComment-107246 Share on other sites More sharing options...
effseesee 101 Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 Am I the only one that finds it incredibly low and tacky that once Sinclair got wind of his illness they visited the station? Are they that desperate? I know it's business but it's like a crow circling a dying prey. I'm pretty sure the fact that Sinclair happened to be at the station at the same time Jim was terminally ill was purely a coincidence. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/13672-knsv-owner-dies-jim-rogers/#findComment-107252 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleSeven 1955 Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 Am I the only one that finds it incredibly low and tacky that once Sinclair got wind of his illness they visited the station? Are they that desperate? I know it's business but it's like a crow circling a dying prey. HELL YES!!!! That's exactly what it was!!! I commend you for calling a spade a spade on that one. You're not to only one that feel that same way. You don't come at the station while this man is on his death bed, as if it was your station for the taking with the impression that this man may not live long. I'm pretty sure the fact that Sinclair happened to be at the station at the same time Jim was terminally ill was purely a coincidence. I don't think so. There's absolutely no coincidence that they had strong ambitions for those Heathens Of Hunt Valley to show up at the station so quickly, while Rogers was on his death bed. I have a feeling that someone must've told him that of the health status of Rogers, and they might've figured that it would be an opportune time to make that trip to Vegas and view the quarters of KSNV. And the real fucked up part about it is, they didn't wait until the man croak, because he didn't die until a couple of days later. We'll just look around and in case the man croaks and Beverly takes over, or maybe if Rogers would change his mind and want to sell channel 3 (which would've been never), those devils have first grabs in buying the station. And you know Rogers wasn't ready to sell his Channel 3. I even read the Las Vegas Sun article yesterday that Rogers was going to add even more programming within hours before his death. Stoldal said that Rogers, who had initiated a lot of changes to boost local news coverage since 2009, was chatting by phone with Stoldal about new local TV news shows less than 24 hours before his death. Among his latest ideas, Rogers proposed a morning talk show featuring local women discussing vital issues of the day and a stimulating afternoon show featuring community business and labor leaders debating management-union topics. Look, since they first bought Four Points Media almost three years, they've been desperado vultures. They'll do anything to get what they wanted. But they probably thought after Gray acquired the Helena properties and maybe that would've saw their interest since they acquire the non-license assets of the Reno properties, but I think there's way more to the story. And rkolsen, you're not the only one who feel that same way. I call that shit very pitiful. It would be a dark day in Southern Nevada should these devils acquire Channel 3. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/13672-knsv-owner-dies-jim-rogers/#findComment-107253 Share on other sites More sharing options...
swillh2k2 203 Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 It would be a dark day in Southern Nevada should these devils acquire Channel 3. No, it won't. The sun will rise and set in Southern NV like it usually does if they do buy KSNV. There may be some misgivings in the newsroom because of their clashing political view, but let's not overstate things. And I think that you all are reading into this too much. It was mentioned that Sinclair made a "recent" visit. Recent could mean any number of things. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/13672-knsv-owner-dies-jim-rogers/#findComment-107255 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleSeven 1955 Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 No, it won't. The sun will rise and set in Southern NV like it usually does if they do buy KSNV. There may be some misgivings in the newsroom because of their clashing political view, but let's not overstate things. And I think that you all are reading into this too much. It was mentioned that Sinclair made a "recent" visit. Recent could mean any number of things. No I'm not reading this anything less. They take the time to come into the station while that man is dying, that's absolutely no sympathy. They have to be out there minds. And where did I state about their political views at? I never stated anything about that, so I'm not overstating anything, so you can't make those assumptions. And because they did that, should Beverly make a deal with the devil, I would feel a million times much worse. It would be the worst day in broadcasting history in the state. The Heathens of Hunt Valley are some cold-hearted assholes, IMO. And all these devilish bastards want to do is to get even bigger. But you can go defend those fools all you want, because I won't. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/13672-knsv-owner-dies-jim-rogers/#findComment-107256 Share on other sites More sharing options...
swillh2k2 203 Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 No I'm not reading this anything less. They take the time to come into the station while that man is dying, that's absolutely no sympathy. They have to be out there minds. And where did I state about their political views at? I never stated anything about that, so I'm not overstating anything, so you can't make those assumptions. And because they did that, should Beverly make a deal with the devil, I would feel a million times much worse. It would be the worst day in broadcasting history in the state. The Heathens of Hunt Valley are some cold-hearted assholes, IMO. And all these devilish bastards want to do is to get even bigger. But you can go defend those fools all you want, because I won't. Here's my take. The final call as to what happens to KSNV will rest with Beverly Rogers. If she feels that the station is in better hands with Sinclair, that's her decision. If she feels that it's in better hands with another company, that's her decision as well. Personally, it doesn't affect me since I don't live there. As for their buying spree, I'm not defending them or saying if they're right or wrong. But I'm also saying that we shouldn't jump to conclusions that they swooped in as soon as they learned he was dying because it's big, bad Sinclair and nobody likes them because they're too big, too conservative, too cheap, etc. How do we know that these talks haven't been going on for a few months? If it was Gannett or Hearst, would we have the same opinion? Maybe Jim Rogers knew that he didn't have too much longer and was secretly exploring the sale of the station to Sinclair (even though you can't keep anything secret in this day and age) because he felt that the station would be in better hands under them? Why would it be the "worst day in broadcast history in the state" because Sinclair bought them? How do we know that they won't pour resources into the station to help them get to #1? As I said in a previous post, it's a two way street. When selling TV stations, I would think that there has to be mutual interest between the party selling and the party looking to buy, and in this case, there is (was) mutual interest between Sinclair and the Rogers family. Just my .02. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/13672-knsv-owner-dies-jim-rogers/#findComment-107260 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleSeven 1955 Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 Here's my take. The final call as to what happens to KSNV will rest with Beverly Rogers. If she feels that the station is in better hands with Sinclair, that's her decision. If she feels that it's in better hands with another company, that's her decision as well. Personally, it doesn't affect me since I don't live there. As for their buying spree, I'm not defending them or saying if they're right or wrong. But I'm also saying that we shouldn't jump to conclusions that they swooped in as soon as they learned he was dying because it's big, bad Sinclair and nobody likes them because they're too big, too conservative, too cheap, etc. How do we know that these talks haven't been going on for a few months? If it was Gannett or Hearst, would we have the same opinion? Maybe Jim Rogers knew that he didn't have too much longer and was secretly exploring the sale of the station to Sinclair (even though you can't keep anything secret in this day and age) because he felt that the station would be in better hands under them? Why would it be the "worst day in broadcast history in the state" because Sinclair bought them? How do we know that they won't pour resources into the station to help them get to #1? As I said in a previous post, it's a two way street. When selling TV stations, I would think that there has to be mutual interest between the party selling and the party looking to buy, and in this case, there is (was) mutual interest between Sinclair and the Rogers family. Just my .02. Yeah it would be her decision, that doesn't make it the right decision. I'm not going to change my stance. My stance is that, you know this man is going to see the Pearly Gates, why would you exploit him and showing up at the stations with ambitions to possibly acquire the station, when Rogers, who clearly didn't want to see his station, while he's still alive. And many will say its was a coincidence. But I can't see it as that, with their desperate, devilish, heathen asses. And all they want to do is to get bigger. Yes we don't know if they were talking months back, we can't assume that. We don't know if they started talking after Gray made that deal to acquire KTVH/KMTF, we don't know that either. You're right. All I'm saying why in the hell they would want to go to a TV station, when they know this man's day's are possibly numbered? Why couldn't they wait until afterwards. Anywho, whether Beverly makes the deal with the devil, yes it would be her decision, but it wouldn't be the right decision. We're not talking about these other massive groups. we're talking about those Heathens of Hunt Valley, and their plan to continue to get even bigger and bigger. All Ms. Beverly needs to do is to do her homework and not think about just the money. I'd rather see her either keep the station or give it to someone else, instead of giving Jim's Kingdom to those heathen devils. Sinclair has two stations in the market but neither has a news operation. Unless they can snoop a major network affiliation away, neither of them would be successful (being both marginal stations). It's a tough position for them to be in. They would have to sell one of them to acquire KSNV (or KLAS) though. They'll likely close down the very VHF low KSNV since they're on RF2, and move the NBC programmingh it to either KVCW or KVMY. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/13672-knsv-owner-dies-jim-rogers/#findComment-107262 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenShine9 1513 Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 Sinclair has two stations in the market but neither has a news operation. Unless they can snoop a major network affiliation away, neither of them would be successful (being both marginal stations). It's a tough position for them to be in. They would have to sell one of them to acquire KSNV (or KLAS) though. IF they went in on his deathbed to try to snoop it away, then that is just wrong though!!! Is that proven though? (I wouldn't be surprised given their very aggressive stance, but cannot prove it) Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/13672-knsv-owner-dies-jim-rogers/#findComment-107263 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ns8401 941 Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 Yeah it would be her decision, that doesn't make it the right decision. I'm not going to change my stance. My stance is that, you know this man is going to see the Pearly Gates, why would you exploit him and showing up at the stations with ambitions to possibly acquire the station, when Rogers, who clearly didn't want to see his station, while he's still alive. And many will say its was a coincidence. But I can't see it as that, with their desperate, devilish, heathen asses. And all they want to do is to get bigger. Yes we don't know if they were talking months back, we can't assume that. We don't know if they started talking after Gray made that deal to acquire KTVH/KMTF, we don't know that either. You're right. All I'm saying why in the hell they would want to go to a TV station, when they know this man's day's are possibly numbered? Why couldn't they wait until afterwards. Anywho, whether Beverly makes the deal with the devil, yes it would be her decision, but it wouldn't be the right decision. We're not talking about these other massive groups. we're talking about those Heathens of Hunt Valley, and their plan to continue to get even bigger and bigger. All Ms. Beverly needs to do is to do her homework and not think about just the money. I'd rather see her either keep the station or give it to someone else, instead of giving Jim's Kingdom to those heathen devils. They'll likely close down the very VHF low KSNV since they're on RF2, and move the NBC programmingh it to either KVCW or KVMY. Could it be that they went to negotiate with him before he died to see if there was interest and to convey those wishes to his wife. You act as though he wasn't consulted which seems highly unlikely. Maybe you should take a pill and chill. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/13672-knsv-owner-dies-jim-rogers/#findComment-107264 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleSeven 1955 Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 Could it be that they went to negotiate with him before he died to see if there was interest and to convey those wishes to his wife. You act as though he wasn't consulted which seems highly unlikely. Maybe you should take a pill and chill. How can you prove that he was involved in the negotiations behind the scenes? If it was any any sort of negotiations, we probably would hear some sort of news right about now. And you haven't even saw the article from the Las Vegas Sun about expanding Rogers ambitions on boosting is local offering which give it a strong impression that he wasn't to sell his station to these devils or to anybody. Well we'll never know that answer by the parties anyway. And I don't need to take shit. I stand by what I said, and I have no regrets. Like I just said, I just hope Ms. Beverly does her homework and not sell it to these devils. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/13672-knsv-owner-dies-jim-rogers/#findComment-107266 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ns8401 941 Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 How can you prove that there were negotiations behind the scenes? If it was any any sort of negotiations, we probably would hear some sort of news right about now. And you haven't even saw the article from the Las Vegas Sun about expanding Rogers ambitions on boosting is local offering which give it a strong impression that he wasn't to sell his station to these devils. Well we'll never know that answer by the parties anyway. And I don't need to take anything. I stand by what I said, and I have no regrets. Like I just said, I just hope Ms. Beverly does her homework and not sell it to these devils. All I'm saying is you are telling me not to assume, while you say at the same time that they are devils and were coming to buy the station while the man was dying. Give me a break. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/13672-knsv-owner-dies-jim-rogers/#findComment-107267 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleSeven 1955 Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 All I'm saying is you are telling me not to assume, while you say at the same time that they are devils and were coming to buy the station while the man was dying. Give me a break. Well, believe what you want to believe because I'm not going to change my stance on those asshole devils of Hunt Valley, all they want to do is to get bigger. They know what they did and if they acquire KSNV because of what they did, it would go down as the worst thing they'd ever done. And Ms. Beverly would be the devil too if she follows through with giving those devils the key of Jim's Kingdom, just like Robert Allbritton given Joe's keys to those devils. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/13672-knsv-owner-dies-jim-rogers/#findComment-107268 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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