Guest NewsHound Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 That music is production music and I'm shocked nobody has mentioned that beforehand. Listen to all the aforementioned cuts, it's the exact same cut of music with production tracks overlayed. They use an aggressive cut for sports but I believe that's just the same piece of music with guitars overlayed. There is no distinct logo in the music and it just loops over and over, it's production music and cheap production music at that. Definitely not on par with Megatrax or Killer Tracks, more on the VideoHelper or Freeplay Music level. Look at it this way though, sister station WFTV used production cuts for years before Cox invested in a package for them. Also, WSB's News 2000 (whether people agree with me or not) was pretty much production music because it never had enough distinctive themes to make it a package. Lots of the Cox-owned sister stations like WRDQ in Orlando and WAXN in Charlotte all used production tracks. Cox is very friendly with the people at Megatrax. Still, it's not a package, hate to break it to you but if every cut sounds like that with no variation in instruments or pitch or tone, it's production music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compubit 670 Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 For some reason, parts of WPXI's old Hothaus package still keep showing up in their newscasts. This has been a problem since the new look was launched. The old lower thirds sometimes come up, and tonight on 11 at 11 they closed with the old closing slide. Why wouldn't the old graphics be removed from their systems? Visiting PGH last night, I did notice that some of the graphics weren't in the right position on WPGH's 10pm newscast ("Live" bug, IIRC - I'll have to go back to my recordings to check). I haven't watched my recording of WPXI - had KDKA on the set in the room and WTRF on display on the computer. On side note, I was a little depressed that WTRF/Fox was in SD - wanted to capture an HD newscast before the stations dropped Fox... J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrelevator 28 Posted August 12, 2014 Author Share Posted August 12, 2014 Visiting PGH last night, I did notice that some of the graphics weren't in the right position on WPGH's 10pm newscast ("Live" bug, IIRC - I'll have to go back to my recordings to check). I haven't watched my recording of WPXI - had KDKA on the set in the room and WTRF on display on the computer. On side note, I was a little depressed that WTRF/Fox was in SD - wanted to capture an HD newscast before the stations dropped Fox... J That's probably because the WPGH (and PCNC) bugs don't match the current package like the standard WPXI bug does. Hopefully they will be changed at some point to match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TresGriffin 138 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Love it. In my opinion, all Cox needs to do is change the "11" to a "2", slap the "Eyewitness News" theme on it and send it to Atlanta at WSB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24994J 5276 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Love it. In my opinion, all Cox needs to do is change the "11" to a "2", slap the "Eyewitness News" theme on it and send it to Atlanta at WSB. Action News. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TresGriffin 138 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Action News. I know it's Channel 2 action news. I just think the Eyewitness News music would be a good fit for WSB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24994J 5276 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Sorry, I misread your post. I thought...never mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TresGriffin 138 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Action News. No worries! Love the graphics. So much cleaner than what 2 has now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyHarry 719 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 I do like everything but the music. It's not godforsaken trash like This is Home but it just doesn't seem fitting for WPXI IMO. The music feels a lil too up tempo for Channel 11 News but when the time comes, it should feel perfect on WHBQ and WFXT. That music is production music and I'm shocked nobody has mentioned that beforehand. Listen to all the aforementioned cuts, it's the exact same cut of music with production tracks overlayed. They use an aggressive cut for sports but I believe that's just the same piece of music with guitars overlayed. There is no distinct logo in the music and it just loops over and over, it's production music and cheap production music at that. Definitely not on par with Megatrax or Killer Tracks, more on the VideoHelper or Freeplay Music level. Look at it this way though, sister station WFTV used production cuts for years before Cox invested in a package for them. Also, WSB's News 2000 (whether people agree with me or not) was pretty much production music because it never had enough distinctive themes to make it a package. Lots of the Cox-owned sister stations like WRDQ in Orlando and WAXN in Charlotte all used production tracks. Cox is very friendly with the people at Megatrax. Still, it's not a package, hate to break it to you but if every cut sounds like that with no variation in instruments or pitch or tone, it's production music. I like the music, especially the little electronic "riff" at about the :07 mark as they segue into the news. And looking at that building reminds me of what a generally ugly city Pittspuke is. Nice downtown, but the rest of the area is ughhhh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leavellebrett 85 Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 I like the music, especially the little electronic "riff" at about the :07 mark as they segue into the news. And looking at that building reminds me of what a generally ugly city Pittspuke is. Nice downtown, but the rest of the area is ughhhh! No one talks trash on Pittsburgh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weeters 1811 Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 I like the music, especially the little electronic "riff" at about the :07 mark as they segue into the news. And looking at that building reminds me of what a generally ugly city Pittspuke is. Nice downtown, but the rest of the area is ughhhh! I like Pittsburgh. Mostly because having huge hills right next to downtown is something that's way too cool when compared to the pretty much flat Milwaukee area. Lots of nice old buildings downtown, too. The airport is weird. The convention center is nice but a little too plain inside. Going through the Fort Pitt tunnel into downtown has got to be the coolest of all the ways to enter any city in the USA. Everything I saw between the Airport and downtown looked like pretty much all the other metropolitan outlying areas I've been through. No complaints. B+ Would visit again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbnews 344 Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 People keep thinking WFXT will get these. I hope they don't (and I doubt they will) because these graphics would not fit them well AT ALL and would CRASH in a market like Boston. I do like the music though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NewsHound Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 People keep thinking WFXT will get these. I hope they don't (and I doubt they will) because these graphics would not fit them well AT ALL and would CRASH in a market like Boston. I do like the music though. It's indeed possible that WFXT could get something that is inspired by these, but the same can be said for any other Cox package or could be something completely different altogether. Cox has a decent relationship with Hothaus, so you have to hope they will get something decent. Will WFXT get the WPXI package exactly the way it is? Absolutely not. Cox does not and has not ever used the same exact look on more than one station. The only example I can think of is when WFTV, WSB, and WSOC got their first HD graphics. Each one had similar elements, but they all had differences. WSB and WFTV's package was closer to each other but not exact. WSOC had different opens altogether. So if WFXT gets similar graphics to another Cox property or something completely new altogether, it will not be a direct copy of anything we've seen before. Cox will make sure of that. EDIT: It should also be said that Cox graphics now are not like the Giant Octopus packages of the past, even less likely that the packages will share elements. GO was notorious for recycling elements. Whether they go Hothaus or someone completely different altogether, you can guarantee that WFXT's new package will be more unique. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 Cox does not and has not ever used the same exact look on more than one station. Hm. You should take a look at and ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NewsHound Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 Hm. You should take a look at and ... It's close, but not exact. There are differences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 It's close, but not exact. There are differences. It's okay to admit you're wrong, we won't think any less of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTSC1980 96 Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 I wonder if anyone have recording of open of WPXI news at 10 on WPGH with new look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NewsHound Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 It's okay to admit you're wrong, we won't think any less of you. Look closely at KTVU and the other station and you will notice that yes, it's the same base package, but they have different elements. The lowers are even different. I'd admit I was wrong if I actually was, but I happen to know more about how these companies work than you do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weeters 1811 Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 I happen to know more about how these companies work than you do. I can assure you that morning traffic is in a position to know exactly how "these companies" in question work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhratbrat 423 Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 I have to quote Allen Iverson in this and state "Are we really arguing the merits if all of the COX Media Group graphics are similar". :beat: I'm not trying to be mean-spirited but this is truly beating a dead horse. Let's wait and see with baited breath whats going to happen with WFXT and WHBQ with their new ownership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 I CAN'T GET OVER HOW DIFFERENT THESE ARE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TennTV1983 743 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 I CAN'T GET OVER HOW DIFFERENT THESE ARE Even Cox has been guilty of recycling graphic packages that have been used at other stations. WHIO is another example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFTV 484 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Looks like a downgrade for FOX 23. They were better when they had the KSWB look, however their colors and package seemed more colorful and sharper than KSWB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrtraveler01 737 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Looks like a downgrade for FOX 23. They were better when they had the KSWB look, however their colors and package seemed more colorful and sharper than KSWB. I think it has to do with that logo, that's a logo you would've seen in the late 90's. That and the choice of font that KOKI uses makes it look cheap compared to the font KTVU uses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Block 1488 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Those graphics make my head hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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