mardek1995 200 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 I do as well because Fox already tried to swap WPWR, and we saw how that went. A trade with KRIV makes more sense because it is much more fair than WPWR because KRIV is a Fox station in a Top-10 market, and makes five times as much $$$$ as WPWR does, even though it is in a Top-5 market.I don't think Fox will be selling KRIV (or any of their legacy stations in that matter) anytime soon partly because it earns five times as much as WPWR does, which is quite worthwhile for Fox to still keep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A3N 996 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 I don't think Fox will be selling KRIV (or any of their legacy stations in that matter) anytime soon partly because it earns five times as much as WPWR does, which is quite worthwhile for Fox to still keep. Why do you keep repeating what other people post? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEOMatrix 1295 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 I am vehemently against Fox trying to have a station in almost every NFC market. The Bay Area and Seattle is one thing, but New Orleans? The other Big 4 networks have exited out of markets that size FOR A REASON! Plus, what if the NFL decides to shake things up to where Fox either has AFC or no NFL at all? Then Fox will have an egg on its face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardek1995 200 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 I am vehemently against Fox trying to have a station in almost every NFC market. The Bay Area and Seattle is one thing, but New Orleans? The other Big 4 networks have exited out of markets that size FOR A REASON! Plus, what if the NFL decides to shake things up to where Fox either has AFC or no NFL at all? Then Fox will have an egg on its face. I know right?!! Like I said earlier, CBS wouldn't have a station in almost every AFC market. In fact, I think it has less stations in the AFC markets than Fox does for the NFC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eat News 4738 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 The stakes are much, much higher now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kruejac 9 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 The stakes are much, much higher now. Â How are the stakes much higher? What do you mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eat News 4738 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 How are the stakes much higher? What do you mean? stakes=money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEOMatrix 1295 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 In fact, I think it has less stations in the AFC markets than Fox does for the NFC. Hmm... Here are the "home stations" for all the NFL teams. NFC West Seahawks-KCPQ (Tribune) Cardinals-KSAZ (Fox) 49ers-KTVU (Fox) Rams-KTVI (Tribune) South Falcons-WAGA (Fox) Buccaneers-WTVT (Fox) Saints-WVUE (LA Media [Raycom]) Panthers-WJZY (Fox) East Cowboys-KDFW (Fox) Eagles-WTXF (Fox) Giants-WNYW (Fox) Redskins-WTTG (Fox) North Vikings-KMSP (Fox) Packers-WLUK (Sinclair) Lions-WJBK (Fox) Bears-WFLD (Fox) AFC West Broncos-KCNC (CBS) Raiders-KPIX (CBS) Chiefs-KCTV (Meredith) Chargers-KFMB (Midwest) South Texans-KHOU (Tegna) Titans-WTVF (Scripps) Colts-WTTV (Tribune) Jaguars-WJAX (Bayshore [Cox]) East Jets-WCBS (CBS) Patriots-WBZ (CBS) Bills-WIVB (Media General) Dolphins-WFOR (CBS) North Browns-WOIO (Raycom) Bengals-WKRC (Sinclair) Ravens-WJZ (CBS) Steelers-KDKA (CBS) Fox owns 12 of the NFC stations CBS owns 7 of the AFC stations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Muck 4169 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 I am vehemently against Fox trying to have a station in almost every NFC market. The Bay Area and Seattle is one thing, but New Orleans? The other Big 4 networks have exited out of markets that size FOR A REASON! Plus, what if the NFL decides to shake things up to where Fox either has AFC or no NFL at all? Then Fox will have an egg on its face. Because Tom Benson owns WVUE, and granted an SSA with Raycom under his own terms, I fully expect for him to take Fox and Raycom to court and have it be dragged out to the point that Fox or Raycom blink, and the swap collapses. Â Or better yet, an incensed Tom Benson petitions the league to move the Saints to the AFC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
channel2 869 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Hmm... Here are the "home stations" for all the NFL teams. NFC West Seahawks-KCPQ (Tribune) Cardinals-KSAZ (Fox) 49ers-KTVU (Fox) Rams-KTVI (Tribune) South Falcons-WAGA (Fox) Buccaneers-WTVT (Fox) Saints-WVUE (LA Media [Raycom]) Panthers-WJZY (Fox) East Cowboys-KDFW (Fox) Eagles-WTXF (Fox) Giants-WNYW (Fox) Redskins-WTTG (Fox) North Vikings-KMSP (Fox) Packers-WLUK (Sinclair) Lions-WJBK (Fox) Bears-WFLD (Fox) AFC West Broncos-KCNC (CBS) Raiders-KPIX (CBS) Chiefs-KCTV (Meredith) Chargers-KFMB (Midwest) South Texans-KHOU (Tegna) Titans-WTVF (Scripps) Colts-WTTV (Tribune) Jaguars-WJAX (Bayshore [Cox]) East Jets-WCBS (CBS) Patriots-WBZ (CBS) Bills-WIVB (Media General) Dolphins-WFOR (CBS) North Browns-WOIO (Raycom) Bengals-WKRC (Sinclair) Ravens-WJZ (CBS) Steelers-KDKA (CBS) Fox owns 12 of the NFC stations CBS owns 7 of the AFC stations  The Packers have two markets. WITI (Tribune) in Milwaukee is their other main station. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kruejac 9 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 The Packers have two markets. WITI (Tribune) in Milwaukee is their other main station. One thing I doubt though is that if Fox is able to get a station in every NFC market that they would go for WLUK because it is in a small market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WXmanTim 88 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Logically, it makes sense for Fox to want an O&O in higher rated or higher performing NFC markets. Â Despite its market size, New Orleans has been a high performing football market. Same with Seattle, especially now with the Seahawks doing do well. Â So, rather than settle for a small piece of the retrans cash, via reverse compensation from Benson/Raycom and Tribune, why not control all the ad dollars and retrans cash in those markets. Â The problem becomes what to trade to secure those markets. Orlando for New Orleans, market size wise, may seem like a downgrade. But if WVUE bills higher than WOFL, during the NFL season, it's worth it financially speaking. Â Seattle, though, is the one they can't seem to crack. Cox probably is still sour over whatever behind the scenes masinations led to the KTVU/WFXT swap. So KIRO is out. Sinclair nor Tegna are likely to give up their stations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detroiter313 178 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 One thing I doubt though is that if Fox is able to get a station in every NFC market that they would go for WLUK because it is in a small market. If Fox is so desperate to own stations in NFC markets, then why did they sell WITI and KTVI in the first place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kruejac 9 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 If Fox is so desperate to own stations in NFC markets, then why did they sell WITI and KTVI in the first place? Â Fox regrets selling those stations and the only reason they sold them was so Murdoch could purchase the Wall Street Journal or whatever paper he was trying to buy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrtraveler01 737 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 I hope Fox doesn't get WVUE. Both Benson and Raycom have done a great job turning that station around with their high quality newscasts and I'd hate to see Fox undo that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhratbrat 423 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 I will say as long as Tom Benson is alive, there is no way that WVUE will get sold off to FOX. I look at it like this, if your FOX, you need to stay in line and not piss off an owner of a NFL Franchise. Because if you do that, there will more than likely be a call to Roger Goddell to drop you as a media partner if you are being openly hostile to an owner of an NFL Franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A3N 996 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Let's not get ahead of ourselves. All Benson and Co. have to do is sit back and do nothing. As long as he wants to keep the station, he will do so. The NFL will not get involved in such petty things. WVUE after all is not a part of The Saints franchise, so the NFL could care less if FOX is trying to make a move at buying the station. There are other ways that Benson/Saints (if he so chooses) can do, to punish FOX if they ever succeeded in taking over the station. Â And in reality, nothing will get done anytime soon as Benson and his wife are embroiled in a legal dispute with his children. Plus there's the issue of Benson's health and his capacity to run his businesses. Once things get settled legally, then things will fall in place. Until then, it's wait and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darius22 120 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Does NBC provide both? they showed an NFC game Tonight and another for AFC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TVNewsLover 728 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Does NBC provide both? they showed an NFC game Tonight and another for AFC. NBC airs Sunday Night Football (8:30pm ET) regardless of what conference the teams are in (there is only one game at that time). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Muck 4169 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Fox regrets selling those stations and the only reason they sold them was so Murdoch could purchase the Wall Street Journal or whatever paper he was trying to buy. Then Fox should have stepped in and purchased the LocalTV group when they were put on the market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRolyPoly 1847 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Then Fox should have stepped in and purchased the LocalTV group when they were put on the market. Â But then stations like KFOR, WHO, WHNT, WQAD and others would have been switched to FOX. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eat News 4738 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 As long as V. Stiviano is on the prowl... no team, or team owner is safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Muck 4169 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 But then stations like KFOR, WHO, WHNT, WQAD and others would have been switched to FOX. Fox would have simply spun the legacy NYT stations (plus WTVR) to someone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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