mvcg66b3r 100 Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Don’t buy ESPN’s PR talk that its 7 million-household dip in subscribers is just a blip. It’s for real, and the end of its empire will have widespread consequences for the way you watch sports and pay for TV. http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/12/06/the-sports-bubble-is-about-to-pop.html Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14822-the-sports-bubble-is-about-to-pop/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eat News 4745 Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 7 million x5 bucks a sub... That aint no chump change. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14822-the-sports-bubble-is-about-to-pop/#findComment-140776 Share on other sites More sharing options...
channel2 981 Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Goody, the "baseball is boring" narrative. I do wonder what's going to happen if ESPN can't pay out the nose for sports rights anymore. What they might have to give up, what the licensors will do (ESPN is paying more than $600 million a year for the College Football Playoff - that's just a few games a year!)...the stories that someone in Silicon Valley will scoop up any sports rights packages doesn't seem like it will happen anytime soon (though who knows, it could even be in the next five years), and I doubt that the leagues will just decide to produce and distribute all their coverage themselves, because they'd miss out on the rights fees. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14822-the-sports-bubble-is-about-to-pop/#findComment-140786 Share on other sites More sharing options...
oklahomanewsman 210 Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 Who would pay $20 bucks just for a sports-only package with satellite providers? I would gladly pay $20 bucks just to watch my favorite teams play and to catch all of the highlights and analysis of all of the games. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14822-the-sports-bubble-is-about-to-pop/#findComment-140954 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ns8401 945 Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 Goody, the "baseball is boring" narrative. I do wonder what's going to happen if ESPN can't pay out the nose for sports rights anymore. What they might have to give up, what the licensors will do (ESPN is paying more than $600 million a year for the College Football Playoff - that's just a few games a year!)...the stories that someone in Silicon Valley will scoop up any sports rights packages doesn't seem like it will happen anytime soon (though who knows, it could even be in the next five years), and I doubt that the leagues will just decide to produce and distribute all their coverage themselves, because they'd miss out on the rights fees. With ESPN owned by Disney does "out of money" sound realistic to you anytime soon? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14822-the-sports-bubble-is-about-to-pop/#findComment-140965 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomadcowatbk 149 Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 Who would pay $20 bucks just for a sports-only package with satellite providers? I would gladly pay $20 bucks just to watch my favorite teams play and to catch all of the highlights and analysis of all of the games. but would you do it every month? even during the slow sports month of July Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14822-the-sports-bubble-is-about-to-pop/#findComment-140992 Share on other sites More sharing options...
24994J 5589 Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 If cable television went a la carte across all networks and genres of programming, I'd pay 20, heck, even 40 or 50 bucks a month for a sports package. In my house, it's the TruTV's, OWN's, and MTV's (and 3 dozen others) of the world that would have to worry. I can really only think of about a dozen non-sports channels that I have any use for, and I'd imagine I'm far from alone among current cable subscribers. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14822-the-sports-bubble-is-about-to-pop/#findComment-140993 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ns8401 945 Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 If cable television went a la carte across all networks and genres of programming, I'd pay 20, heck, even 40 or 50 bucks a month for a sports package. In my house, it's the TruTV's, OWN's, and MTV's (and 3 dozen others) of the world that would have to worry. I can really only think of about a dozen non-sports channels that I have any use for, and I'd imagine I'm far from alone among current cable subscribers. I could probably count on my hands how many non OTA channels I'd keep... Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14822-the-sports-bubble-is-about-to-pop/#findComment-140995 Share on other sites More sharing options...
channel2 981 Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 With ESPN owned by Disney does "out of money" sound realistic to you anytime soon? No, not per se, because the Disney parks and all that merchandise are a goldmine. It's a matter of Disney's priorities. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14822-the-sports-bubble-is-about-to-pop/#findComment-141003 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ns8401 945 Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 No, not per se, because the Disney parks and all that merchandise are a goldmine. It's a matter of Disney's priorities. True but I can't see them getting rid of it anytime soon, if they are keeping ABC and the stations then theres a pretty low floor there... Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14822-the-sports-bubble-is-about-to-pop/#findComment-141009 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weeters 1939 Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 Goody, the "baseball is boring" narrative. I do wonder what's going to happen if ESPN can't pay out the nose for sports rights anymore. What they might have to give up, what the licensors will do (ESPN is paying more than $600 million a year for the College Football Playoff - that's just a few games a year!)...the stories that someone in Silicon Valley will scoop up any sports rights packages doesn't seem like it will happen anytime soon (though who knows, it could even be in the next five years), and I doubt that the leagues will just decide to produce and distribute all their coverage themselves, because they'd miss out on the rights fees. I can almost guarantee that if the whole cable sports network bubble burst, the leagues would just produce their own stuff. Whatever they'd lose on licencing fees would be gained back by "double selling" their content (that is, selling advertisements and then selling online subscriptions) because you know people would buy it. They've already got their own cable networks, it wouldn't be that hard to just expand that branding to web-exclusive streams. Most of the time the venue's in-house feed is good enough for broadcast anyways. Just take that and patch in the radio announcers, slap on some better graphics, and you've got a streaming service. TV is cheap to make. They could handle it... It's not like they have to pay for their stadiums half of the time... Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14822-the-sports-bubble-is-about-to-pop/#findComment-141010 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mvcg66b3r 100 Posted December 27, 2015 Author Share Posted December 27, 2015 Here's an interesting article from 1992 about a similar crisis faced by networks and sports leagues. Down The Tubes? Experts See Mega-tv Deals Coming To An End Art Modell has seen the future of television sports and it is not particularly pretty. It is filled with low ratings, anemic advertising revenue and coldhearted network executives who would sell their mothers for a profitable quarter. "I think there's going to be a major shaking out throughout the sports world by television," warned Modell, the Cleveland Browns' owner and the longtime chairman of the National Football League's television committee. ''They're just not going to keep providing the funds for these skyrocketing salaries and demands made of them by (professional sports) ownership." Modell's message is clear: The television networks no longer are inclined - or able - to continue serving as a cash cow for the frivolous spending car dealers, shipbuilders and real-estate magnates who own professional sports teams. "The days of astronomical (rights fee) increases are a thing of the past," said John Severino, president of Prime Ticket cable network and former president of ABC. "The spiraling rights fees that have been a part of the past are no longer going to be a part of the future." http://articles.philly.com/1992-04-01/sports/26003608_1_tv-deals-television-and-advertising-industries-television-networks Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14822-the-sports-bubble-is-about-to-pop/#findComment-141947 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TVLurker 199 Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 Funny, I figured that sports bars and restaurants would of helped to stabilize it; considering that more people love to watch sports at bars or with family than themselves, I figured they would be the sports networks saviors. I think the only solution would be to find a way to raise the rates for these resturants and bars instead of focusing on the number of homes. It doesn't matter if you're in all the homes in the US; not alot of people will turn into ESPN. Heck, even I don't tune into ESPN mainly because I'm not a crazy sports fanatic; just a casual fan. Would have to fully read up on the history of sports to even be considered a fanatic and that is a huge barrier of entry for me. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14822-the-sports-bubble-is-about-to-pop/#findComment-142008 Share on other sites More sharing options...
oklahomanewsman 210 Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 but would you do it every month? even during the slow sports month of July Yes I would because at least there's baseball on during that month. Probably will be watching a lot of ESPN when none of our 4 Major Pro Sports Leagues are on. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14822-the-sports-bubble-is-about-to-pop/#findComment-142318 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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