AJClementeFan69 477 Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 I think we might have a winner... http://www.binghamtonhomepage.com/news/local-news/dot-operations-center-in-full-swing-on-thanksgiving Behold WIVT...still using the Ackerley package... As seen in 2003. Not sure how long these date back. 98/99?? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15462-oldest-graphics-still-in-use/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
TriangleTriadMediaNews 267 Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 Shit, my only guess would be WOAY (ABC Bluefield/Beckley WV)? I'm racking my brain trying to think of someone. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15462-oldest-graphics-still-in-use/#findComment-163074 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColDayNews 438 Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 WCMH still used the NBC O&O graphics in one element or another as late as 2013, until the MG graphics were updated. Mind you this was 8 years after the debut, and 6 years after the sale. The Look A graphics were used for their "NBC 4 is in a commercial break. We'll be right back." billboard during live streams. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15462-oldest-graphics-still-in-use/#findComment-163076 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChesapeakeTV 311 Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 Behold WIVT...still using the Ackerley package... As seen in 2003. Not sure how long these date back. 98/99?? They date back to about 1996 to my knowledge. WIVT picked them up in 1998. But...2003? How about today? Absolutely the record-holder to my knowledge. (To be fair, signs say they may soon ditch them...the weather graphics nowadays are much more typical of Nexstar.) Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15462-oldest-graphics-still-in-use/#findComment-163077 Share on other sites More sharing options...
qunewsguy 377 Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 Put it this way... I have a TVBD reel from 1999 on VHS and WIVT's graphics are on there. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15462-oldest-graphics-still-in-use/#findComment-163080 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOWERCASE GUY 261 Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 What year did 'JZ adopt their current package? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15462-oldest-graphics-still-in-use/#findComment-163082 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEOMatrix 1299 Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 What year did 'JZ adopt their current package? Probably when WJZ went HD. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15462-oldest-graphics-still-in-use/#findComment-163088 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viper550 291 Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 Citytv in Toronto is still using a package that dates back to at least 2006 There's been minor refreshes, but it's still very dated. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15462-oldest-graphics-still-in-use/#findComment-163094 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAnderson1 27 Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 WPVI's package turns 6 in December Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15462-oldest-graphics-still-in-use/#findComment-163109 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Journalist 894 Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 Citytv in Toronto is still using a package that dates back to at least 2008 There's been minor refreshes, but it's still very dated. Make that 2005/2006. The CityNews graphics and music were based around the late A-Channel at the time. Nevertheless, this station single-handedly won this thread. (For all of the wrong reasons.) --- A honorable mention I'll like to throw out is to CTV News. Original package made it debut in 2002 with a widescreen update sometime around 2005 and an HD update in 2009. They shed the package completely for a new one in 2013/2014 but wow. 12 years is remarkable. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=id=61qNdZnjhec;t=44 Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15462-oldest-graphics-still-in-use/#findComment-163120 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samantha 2895 Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 The Ackerley set is 20 years old. It debuted sometime between March and Christmas 1996. The 1996 TVbD demo doesn't have this exact set but it does have some that take similar design cues: [MEDIA=vimeo]10304814[/MEDIA] Logos in the style were used at a lot of Ackerley stations, particularly those in its Upstate New York system (with WWTI as an exception). KVIQ and KFTY, out west, had bastardized versions that didn't use as much FF Meta. WOKR/WHAM did not use the package at the start (they used a different logo and the Walls and Balls package through 2000). Most of their California wing, with stations like KCOY, KGPE and KGET, didn't get this look at all. KMTR, its semi-satellites and KTVF (which was owned by Ackerley in the late 90s and early 2000s) got a different logo set that still lives on in modified form at KTVF. KKTV was also part of Ackerley toward the tail end of this era but didn't get this standardization. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15462-oldest-graphics-still-in-use/#findComment-163135 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ntropolis 596 Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 KIEM's supers are definitely from the 90s and look like they're from 1992 or something. Looks like they did finally update the NBC logo... Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15462-oldest-graphics-still-in-use/#findComment-163154 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganNewsGraphicsJunkie 915 Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 KFOR springs to mind Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15462-oldest-graphics-still-in-use/#findComment-163156 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJClementeFan69 477 Posted November 30, 2016 Author Share Posted November 30, 2016 KIEM's supers are definitely from the 90s and look like they're from 1992 or something. Looks like they did finally update the NBC logo... Good call... Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15462-oldest-graphics-still-in-use/#findComment-163166 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LexTVandRadio 418 Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 Someone should start an "Oldest set still in use". #1 WJZ? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15462-oldest-graphics-still-in-use/#findComment-163179 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WFTV Channel 9 80 Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 Not necessarily oldest graphics per se but the oldest news open style would be WPVI. They've used the same "Around Philadelphia" news open style since the mid 70s with tweaks here and there (mainly the different Action News logos). Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15462-oldest-graphics-still-in-use/#findComment-163187 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mightynine 290 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Wait, did KIEM just update? From the 11/29 newscast. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15462-oldest-graphics-still-in-use/#findComment-163199 Share on other sites More sharing options...
norcalTVfan 14 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Wait, did KIEM just update? From the 11/29 newscast. Yes, a little more than a month ago. These are not animated lower thirds, despite the blue beam on the right. They are still using the plain blue set that debuted near the 1996 presidential election. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15462-oldest-graphics-still-in-use/#findComment-163201 Share on other sites More sharing options...
norcalTVfan 14 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Good call... The current lower thirds debuted with the introduction of "News Channel 3" right around the 1996 election. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15462-oldest-graphics-still-in-use/#findComment-163202 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ntropolis 596 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Wait, did KIEM just update? From the 11/29 newscast. I'm not sure! Must have been recently. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15462-oldest-graphics-still-in-use/#findComment-163203 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJClementeFan69 477 Posted December 1, 2016 Author Share Posted December 1, 2016 They saw this thread. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15462-oldest-graphics-still-in-use/#findComment-163205 Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Block 1566 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Interesting thread idea. Depending on how strict we're talking, KRON has had pretty much the same look since 2001. I guess the current glossy look debuted in 2012 – far more recently than I thought – but the logotype lockup, color palette, and relatively simple lower third design aren't all too different from how they looked in the final NBC days. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15462-oldest-graphics-still-in-use/#findComment-163210 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jess 1115 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Not necessarily oldest graphics per se but the oldest news open style would be WPVI. They've used the same "Around Philadelphia" news open style since the mid 70s with tweaks here and there (mainly the different Action News logos). Not just mid-70s. When they used the Tom Sellers theme, their first open was pretty much that style, just a grittier version. They went in weirder directions for a few iterations after that, but things were settled at least a few years into MCTYW. Speaking of WPVI, while their current look is only 6, their fonts and overall style have not changed that significantly since 1998. They've gotten glossier, sure, but the fonts have not changed since the turn of the century. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15462-oldest-graphics-still-in-use/#findComment-163216 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEOMatrix 1299 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 BBC has the oldest basic design amongst national and international news outlets. The current circles design debuted in 2008, with a refresh in fonts coming in 2013. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15462-oldest-graphics-still-in-use/#findComment-163230 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skbl17 188 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 BBC has the oldest basic design amongst national and international news outlets. The current circles design debuted in 2008, with a refresh in fonts coming in 2013. Wouldn't the oldest be Al Jazeera English though? The L3s have been modified, but still maintains the old orange/white motif, and the opens haven't been changed at all since the channel's debut in 2006. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15462-oldest-graphics-still-in-use/#findComment-163235 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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