doublejman69 124 Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 Even if the FCC approved WSAW's Eagle River transmitter (and WIFR in Rockford, IL) it would take several years to get it on air. Instead of looking at field contour maps, the Longley-Rice maps are far more important and they show a hole in the Rhinelander, Oneida and Forest county area for WSAW plus the LP signal in Vilas county. If approved, Gray is getting the far better Northwoods signal. Remember too FOX is on a sub channel of WSAW in hd. Spending a lot of time in the UP area last few summers all the Marquette stations for the most part put out a poor signal outside of Marquette County, They are nonexistent once you get to closer to the Wisconsin border Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/18143-gray-to-acquire-quincy-media/page/3/#findComment-256781 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCB4TV 347 Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 1 hour ago, doublejman69 said: Even if the FCC approved WSAW's Eagle River transmitter (and WIFR in Rockford, IL) it would take several years to get it on air. Instead of looking at field contour maps, the Longley-Rice maps are far more important and they show a hole in the Rhinelander, Oneida and Forest county area for WSAW plus the LP signal in Vilas county. If approved, Gray is getting the far better Northwoods signal. Remember too FOX is on a sub channel of WSAW in hd. Spending a lot of time in the UP area last few summers all the Marquette stations for the most part put out a poor signal outside of Marquette County, They are nonexistent once you get to closer to the Wisconsin border With this transaction, are Gray's applications for the Eagle River and Rockford transmitters still relevant as they appear to be keeping WYOW and CBS moving to the WREX spectrum? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/18143-gray-to-acquire-quincy-media/page/3/#findComment-256783 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenShine9 1513 Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 1 hour ago, doublejman69 said: Even if the FCC approved WSAW's Eagle River transmitter (and WIFR in Rockford, IL) it would take several years to get it on air. Instead of looking at field contour maps, the Longley-Rice maps are far more important and they show a hole in the Rhinelander, Oneida and Forest county area for WSAW plus the LP signal in Vilas county. If approved, Gray is getting the far better Northwoods signal. Remember too FOX is on a sub channel of WSAW in hd. Spending a lot of time in the UP area last few summers all the Marquette stations for the most part put out a poor signal outside of Marquette County, They are nonexistent once you get to closer to the Wisconsin border The new owner of WAOW could always set up a transmitter, or acquire a low-power signal, to build its signal up in that part of the market. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/18143-gray-to-acquire-quincy-media/page/3/#findComment-256785 Share on other sites More sharing options...
doublejman69 124 Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 1 hour ago, GoldenShine9 said: The new owner of WAOW could always set up a transmitter, or acquire a low-power signal, to build its signal up in that part of the market. WYOW and WMOW are only 20 miles apart, the new owners could apply to increase WMOWs power if they believe there's holes in the coverage. Now about WJFW and only having a LP with 1kw of power to cover Marathon, Portage, and Wood counties in which 80% of the market reside in... Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/18143-gray-to-acquire-quincy-media/page/3/#findComment-256786 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyrannical bastard 3955 Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 Seems like Marks selling out to Gray could help all of their markets. WBKP/WBUP being the only conflict...although that could be resolved with some creative engineering betwewn the two stations, and possibly a "failing station waiver if WBKP was kept. Alpena is the only market that lacks an NBC affiliate of its own, and Gray has been the owner that has fixed that in others recently, like Presque Isle and Mankato. And Glendive could benefit from having a major owner, they could at least restore some kind of local news presence there, that went away when Emelie Boyles left KXGN... Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/18143-gray-to-acquire-quincy-media/page/3/#findComment-256792 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCB4TV 347 Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 14 hours ago, doublejman69 said: WYOW and WMOW are only 20 miles apart, the new owners could apply to increase WMOWs power if they believe there's holes in the coverage. Now about WJFW and only having a LP with 1kw of power to cover Marathon, Portage, and Wood counties in which 80% of the market reside in... If it makes anyone feel better, it appears that WAOW currently has a CP to increase the main stick, RF9, from their current 63.2 kW to 100kW. Here's the projected coverage contour. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/18143-gray-to-acquire-quincy-media/page/3/#findComment-256793 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megatron81 263 Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 I thought that Byron Allen was going to buy Quincy I didn't think Gray would but Quincy. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/18143-gray-to-acquire-quincy-media/page/3/#findComment-257087 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleSeven 1955 Posted February 28, 2021 Author Share Posted February 28, 2021 Damn. It didn't take no time to sell those papers. Phillips Media of Harrison, Arkansas has acquired the Herald-Whig & the Courier-Post. Quincy Media president Ralph Oakley (whose family have ran the paper for nearly a century) wrote a message to the H-W readers. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/18143-gray-to-acquire-quincy-media/page/3/#findComment-257252 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubsFan79 58 Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 I could see CBS move to WREX sub channel if the deal with Gray and Quincy is approved. WIFR TV is a LP station. See how it plays out. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/18143-gray-to-acquire-quincy-media/page/3/#findComment-257799 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenShine9 1513 Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 16 minutes ago, CubsFan79 said: I could see CBS move to WREX sub channel if the deal with Gray and Quincy is approved. WIFR TV is a LP station. See how it plays out. I'm not sure how much coverage that would improve though. Geographically, Rockford is a fairly small market with only a handful of counties. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/18143-gray-to-acquire-quincy-media/page/3/#findComment-257800 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCB4TV 347 Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 45 minutes ago, CubsFan79 said: I could see CBS move to WREX sub channel if the deal with Gray and Quincy is approved. WIFR TV is a LP station. See how it plays out. It's probably already a done deal as it would place CBS back on full power status. I expect the migration to occur as soon as Gray closes the sale or shortly thereafter. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/18143-gray-to-acquire-quincy-media/page/3/#findComment-257804 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samantha 2896 Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 Remember that Gray has an NPRM out to allocate channel 9 to Freeport, Illinois... That, much like the Eagle River proceeding, probably vanishes. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/18143-gray-to-acquire-quincy-media/page/3/#findComment-257809 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nathannah 2446 Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 On 2/28/2021 at 8:59 AM, CircleSeven said: Damn. It didn't take no time to sell those papers. Phillips Media of Harrison, Arkansas has acquired the Herald-Whig & the Courier-Post. Quincy Media president Ralph Oakley (whose family have ran the paper for nearly a century) wrote a message to the H-W readers. At least it was to what seems to be a family operation rather than Alden or Gannett (so far at least). Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/18143-gray-to-acquire-quincy-media/page/3/#findComment-257812 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleSeven 1955 Posted March 13, 2021 Author Share Posted March 13, 2021 The deal is now on the docket. No. 21-87. Anyone who want to file a petition to deny, would have until April 12 to file. For oppositions to the deny petitions, would have until April 27 to file. And for replies, you would have to file those by May 7. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/18143-gray-to-acquire-quincy-media/page/3/#findComment-257824 Share on other sites More sharing options...
who?cares 254 Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 I wonder who will end up with the 9 spin offs. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/18143-gray-to-acquire-quincy-media/page/3/#findComment-257826 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenShine9 1513 Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 I'd expect WYOW to get a new callsign as it will be isolated from all the other "OW" stations (and would create confusion afterward). Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/18143-gray-to-acquire-quincy-media/page/3/#findComment-257827 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankees4life 559 Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 Hopefully, the conflicting stations doesn't go to Tegna. Don't want anymore of that trash Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/18143-gray-to-acquire-quincy-media/page/3/#findComment-257838 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRyan 560 Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 10 hours ago, CubsFan79 said: I could see CBS move to WREX sub channel if the deal with Gray and Quincy is approved. WIFR TV is a LP station. See how it plays out. I don't see why Gray couldn't keep WIFR's LP signal on the air, even if they were to simulcast on WREX's subchannel. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/18143-gray-to-acquire-quincy-media/page/3/#findComment-257840 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankees4life 559 Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 9 minutes ago, TheRyan said: I don't see why Gray couldn't keep WIFR's LP signal on the air, even if they were to simulcast on WREX's subchannel. Yeah...it could easily be a ATSC 3.0 repeater as well if they want to do it one day. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/18143-gray-to-acquire-quincy-media/page/3/#findComment-257841 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleSeven 1955 Posted March 13, 2021 Author Share Posted March 13, 2021 Rockford will no doubt be the one to watch. Even though WIFR is a low power station, and the FCC doesn't count LPs into the ownership limits, the Department of Justice (DOJ) could still look into Rockford under antitrust grounds. And since the deal is now docketed, I wouldn't be surprised your usual anti-consoliation advocacy groups (Free Press, cable groups, etc.) would mention Rockford in their informal objections. And since we have a democratic-run FCC, they tend to be more sympathetic to those groups of any of their concerns..... Back in 2016 during Nexstar-Media General, the DOJ ordered the parties to divest Lafayette, LA's LP KLAF-LD (and full power KADN) to a third party, even though Nexstar was going to keep MG's full power KLFY (and KLFY & KLAF-LD would've been allowable under FCC rules). But this was also during a democratic-ran FCC at that time. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/18143-gray-to-acquire-quincy-media/page/3/#findComment-257846 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyrannical bastard 3955 Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, CircleSeven said: Rockford will no doubt be the one to watch. Even though WIFR is a low power station, and the FCC doesn't count LPs into the ownership limits, the Department of Justice (DOJ) could still look into Rockford under antitrust grounds. And since the deal is now docketed, I wouldn't be surprised your usual anti-consoliation advocacy groups (Free Press, cable groups, etc.) would mention Rockford in their informal objections. And since we have a democratic-run FCC, they tend to be more sympathetic to those groups of any of their concerns..... Back in 2016 during Nexstar-Media General, the DOJ ordered the parties to divest Lafayette, LA's LP KLAF-LD (and full power KADN) to a third party, even though Nexstar was going to keep MG's full power KLFY (and KLFY & KLAF-LD would've been allowable under FCC rules). But this was also during a democratic-ran FCC at that time. Essentially, this deal would have Gray and Nexstar each controlling two stations, and each company having 3 networks (Gray with NBC, CW & CBS, and Nexstar with ABC, Fox and MyNetwork). Depending on how the market share is could throw Gray's further ownership of WREX into question, especially if they intend on consolidating WIFR further into WREX, or vice-versa. Rockford is also one of the few markets without its own PBS member station, so WTTW out of Chicago is piped in as their default PBS station. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/18143-gray-to-acquire-quincy-media/page/3/#findComment-257847 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColtFromGulfcoast 709 Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 15 hours ago, tyrannical bastard said: Rockford is also one of the few markets without its own PBS member station, so WTTW out of Chicago is piped in as their default PBS station. Don't they also get WHA from Madison as well?? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/18143-gray-to-acquire-quincy-media/page/3/#findComment-257876 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubsFan79 58 Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 I can’t see a conflict with WIFR TV and WREX TV, with WIFR being a LP other than Rockford’s market size. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/18143-gray-to-acquire-quincy-media/page/3/#findComment-257880 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakob 21 Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 12 hours ago, ColtFromGulfcoast said: Don't they also get WHA from Madison as well?? Yep, but it's Over The Air only, I checked the Comcast schedule and I didn't see WHA on there. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/18143-gray-to-acquire-quincy-media/page/3/#findComment-257885 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRolyPoly 2451 Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 On 3/14/2021 at 4:24 AM, ColtFromGulfcoast said: Don't they also get WHA from Madison as well?? And maybe even WQPT Moline as well. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/18143-gray-to-acquire-quincy-media/page/3/#findComment-257905 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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