Phil Konstantin 11 Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 Welcome again... The biggest question most of us have is... Why not use the A-STAR fulltime? Does TT decide or is it up to the subscribers as a collective to spend the extra money for the better performance and safety? (disclaimer: I'm a Metro Alum L.A. back when it was MTC and Saperstien owned it...so I know "cheap")) As far as I know, the level of service, types of equipment, amount of available flying hours, hours of operation, etc., etc., are all covered in the contract agreed on by all involved parties. So, if the "clients" wanted a different camera, helicopter, pilot or "talent", if would be up to them to renegotiate the contract. There are, at least, three groups in this deal: TT is one, the TV stations are one; and the helicopter provider is the third. They all have to work together to make sure all parties are satisfied. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14765-kfmbs-helicopter/page/6/#findComment-147925 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Konstantin 11 Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 In this business, management is very secretive. So, as far as things outside of my area of operation, I am so far out of the loop, I did not even know there was a loop. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14765-kfmbs-helicopter/page/6/#findComment-147926 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eat News 4745 Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 My replacement is being trained. Management has told me not to mention whom it is until it is official. So, I will not confirm or deny previous posts. And, if you haven't seen any pictures of me, I am very fluffy. [ATTACH=full]2702[/ATTACH] As long as we spelled her name right... Hope you have a cool Aprils Fool joke ready cuz we will all be watching. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14765-kfmbs-helicopter/page/6/#findComment-147927 Share on other sites More sharing options...
A3N 1002 Posted March 26, 2016 Author Share Posted March 26, 2016 This is the rear seat of the AStar. It will be going back soon. I am not privy to any of the financial decisions. I do know an AStar is much more expensive to operate than a 206. TTWn and the stations negotiated a contract which covers levels of equipment and hours flown, etc. That guides everyone's decisions as to what equipment is used, and when. As far as I know, it is a contract signed by all, and it covers a specific period of time. Most have been two or three years in length, but I do not know how long this contract is for. My replacement is being trained. Management has told me not to mention whom it is until it is official. So, I will not confirm or deny previous posts. The airborne job gets a bit more pay than the radio gigs. So, I doubt there will be any difficulty finding replacements among current TTWn -Metro-Clear Channel-iHeart employees. I guess I could be talked out of retirement if the money was right. That being said, San Diego is only the 25th biggest market in the country. Most radio and TV ad revenues have been going down. I do not expect there to be more money for salaries in the future than there are now or were in the past. So, I doubt if anyone will be beating down my door to get me back on the air, regardless of my experience or expertise. That being said, they are most welcome to try. And, if you haven't seen any pictures of me, I am very fluffy. [ATTACH=full]2702[/ATTACH] Thank for the reply. How do you like using the Cineflex camera versus the FLIR? On-Air, the picture looks so much crisper. Although, lately the picture has not been as crisp. One question that I haven't found an answer to is what happened to National Helicopter Service? The old Chopper 8 is registered to them. Did they go out of business, did they sell their contract to Welk or was TTW's contract with National Helicopter up and signed on with Welk? Also, Do you know what happened to the old Chopper 8? Sorry for asking so many questions. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14765-kfmbs-helicopter/page/6/#findComment-147931 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Konstantin 11 Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 Thank for the reply. How do you like using the Cineflex camera versus the FLIR? On-Air, the picture looks so much crisper. Although, lately the picture has not been as crisp. One question that I haven't found an answer to is what happened to National Helicopter Service? The old Chopper 8 is registered to them. Did they go out of business, did they sell their contract to Welk or was TTW's contract with National Helicopter up and signed on with Welk? Also, Do you know what happened to the old Chopper 8? Sorry for asking so many questions. TT moved to ACA after end of contract, as far as I know. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14765-kfmbs-helicopter/page/6/#findComment-147945 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkolsen 1684 Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 Thank for the reply. How do you like using the Cineflex camera versus the FLIR? On-Air, the picture looks so much crisper. Although, lately the picture has not been as crisp. I tweeted / periscope'd with one of WCAU's SkyForce 10's photojournalist and they swapped out the FLIR camera that was initially installed for a CineFlex unit. I asked about the difference and the key thing was the stability and the ability to easily swap out cameras in the heads. I was digging around FLIR's website a few months and their products seem to be based mainly based for police and military uses while CineFlex is more the media. I think FLIR has dropped most of their broadcast range. I'm curious in San Diego who handles the downlinking of the live feed - is it one station or multiple on shifts? And who ultimately controls the copyright of the video or its uses? I read in DC WRC and WTTG handle the downlink on a morning/evening shift schedule, one person has inquired via a tweet to the photographer about purchasing footage and was told to contact WRC. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14765-kfmbs-helicopter/page/6/#findComment-147950 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Konstantin 11 Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 Thank for the reply. How do you like using the Cineflex camera versus the FLIR? On-Air, the picture looks so much crisper. Although, lately the picture has not been as crisp. One question that I haven't found an answer to is what happened to National Helicopter Service? The old Chopper 8 is registered to them. Did they go out of business, did they sell their contract to Welk or was TTW's contract with National Helicopter up and signed on with Welk? Also, Do you know what happened to the old Chopper 8? Sorry for asking so many questions. I didn't answer the camera question. The Cineflex has a better focus. That's better. It is not able to move very rapidly when it is zoomed in tight. That is a bad. The FLIR will be returning soon. TT owns that camera. The Cineflex is on loan. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14765-kfmbs-helicopter/page/6/#findComment-147954 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Konstantin 11 Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 I tweeted / periscope'd with one of WCAU's SkyForce 10's photojournalist and they swapped out the FLIR camera that was initially installed for a CineFlex unit. I asked about the difference and the key thing was the stability and the ability to easily swap out cameras in the heads. I was digging around FLIR's website a few months and their products seem to be based mainly based for police and military uses while CineFlex is more the media. I think FLIR has dropped most of their broadcast range. I'm curious in San Diego who handles the downlinking of the live feed - is it one station or multiple on shifts? And who ultimately controls the copyright of the video or its uses? I read in DC WRC and WTTG handle the downlink on a morning/evening shift schedule, one person has inquired via a tweet to the photographer about purchasing footage and was told to contact WRC. I do not know. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14765-kfmbs-helicopter/page/6/#findComment-147955 Share on other sites More sharing options...
A3N 1002 Posted March 26, 2016 Author Share Posted March 26, 2016 I didn't answer the camera question. The Cineflex has a better focus. That's better. It is not able to move very rapidly when it is zoomed in tight. That is a bad. The FLIR will be returning soon. TT owns that camera. The Cineflex is on loan. Well, that sucks. I hope that it works better this time around. The picture quality on the FLIR got really bad towards the end. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14765-kfmbs-helicopter/page/6/#findComment-147956 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eat News 4745 Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 I tweeted / periscope'd with one of WCAU's SkyForce 10's photojournalist and they swapped out the FLIR camera that was initially installed for a CineFlex unit. I asked about the difference and the key thing was the stability and the ability to easily swap out cameras in the heads. I was digging around FLIR's website a few months and their products seem to be based mainly based for police and military uses while CineFlex is more the media. I think FLIR has dropped most of their broadcast range. I'm curious in San Diego who handles the downlinking of the live feed - is it one station or multiple on shifts? And who ultimately controls the copyright of the video or its uses? I read in DC WRC and WTTG handle the downlink on a morning/evening shift schedule, one person has inquired via a tweet to the photographer about purchasing footage and was told to contact WRC. It's KFMB's microwave system that takes in the feed....then thru the "switch" to camzone who distributes the IPbased signals to the stations. My previous licensing attempts were via Metro/TTN by KFMB referral. Metro did not make video available for licensing as of a few years ago. KFMB did not claim copyrights. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14765-kfmbs-helicopter/page/6/#findComment-147957 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Konstantin 11 Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 Anyone know what kind of helicopter this is? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14765-kfmbs-helicopter/page/6/#findComment-147973 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicksair 62 Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 Looks like a Bell 412. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14765-kfmbs-helicopter/page/6/#findComment-147974 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eat News 4745 Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 Anyone know what kind of helicopter this is?[ATTACH=full]2703[/ATTACH] It's a pink one. Happy Easter. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14765-kfmbs-helicopter/page/6/#findComment-147975 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eat News 4745 Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 Holy S*&T Chopper 8 actually flew in the rain today. They actually flew while there was yellow and green on the WX radar. Water drops on the lens and everything! Unless it was faked like that moon landing. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14765-kfmbs-helicopter/page/6/#findComment-148709 Share on other sites More sharing options...
A3N 1002 Posted April 7, 2016 Author Share Posted April 7, 2016 Holy S*&T Chopper 8 actually flew in the rain today. They actually flew while there was yellow and green on the WX radar. Water drops on the lens and everything! Unless it was faked like that moon landing. Just as rare as those bigfoot sightings. But, in reality, Chopper 8 needed a wash so that's why it was out in the rain... Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14765-kfmbs-helicopter/page/6/#findComment-148719 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFTV 526 Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 It was in a hangar surrounded by green screen and used stock B-Roll footage LOL. I love how KPIX uses a fake chopper sound when they show B-Roll. At least mute it or use the inside cockpit high pitch buzzing to be more realistic. Just sayin. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14765-kfmbs-helicopter/page/6/#findComment-148730 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eat News 4745 Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 It was in a hangar surrounded by green screen and used stock B-Roll footage LOL. I love how KPIX uses a fake chopper sound when they show B-Roll. At least mute it or use the inside cockpit high pitch buzzing to be more realistic. Just sayin. Hey KBNT in SD dubs in a 50's era Bell 47 (mash) helicopter piston driven whirlybird. But in a very lame defense I would point out that the Chopper 8 feed does not pass audio to the subscribers...just video. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14765-kfmbs-helicopter/page/6/#findComment-148799 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihEARDtHAT 8 Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 Phil's new ride (no more cramped back seat and he's now the pilot) as he heads out on his tour of the Southwest. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14765-kfmbs-helicopter/page/6/#findComment-148990 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eat News 4745 Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 Phil's new ride (no more cramped back seat and he's now the pilot) as he heads out on his tour of the Southwest. But.... He will not drive in the rain, wind or snow. And he only has enough gas for about 75 miles. I hope his transmitter and IFB works. Phil will be taking along some friends to save on expenses.... Enjoy the trip Phil...and be sure to log those hours. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14765-kfmbs-helicopter/page/6/#findComment-148995 Share on other sites More sharing options...
n925tv 143 Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 Saw what looked like Chopper 8 (The Bell) heading north to Pacoima around 7:30, passing over my house. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14765-kfmbs-helicopter/page/6/#findComment-150913 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eat News 4745 Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 Saw what looked like Chopper 8 (The Bell) heading north to Pacoima around 7:30, passing over my house. You may have noticed a nice water drop stain on the upper right corner of the picture/lens. That's from last month when they got all daring and flew in the rain. The camera housing leaked, and word is there will be some sort of maintenance / switch out of the camera head and/or housing. Probably do a annual lube, tune and brakes while they are up there also. No time frame was stated and no word if the A-hole will be needed. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14765-kfmbs-helicopter/page/6/#findComment-150917 Share on other sites More sharing options...
A3N 1002 Posted May 7, 2016 Author Share Posted May 7, 2016 You may have noticed a nice water drop stain on the upper right corner of the picture/lens. That's from last month when they got all daring and flew in the rain. The camera housing leaked, and word is there will be some sort of maintenance / switch out of the camera head and/or housing. Probably do a annual lube, tune and brakes while they are up there also. No time frame was stated and no word if the A-hole will be needed. I'm guessing it will be out of commission for 3 weeks, and the A-star will be used sparingly... Chopper 8 is cursed, I tell ya. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14765-kfmbs-helicopter/page/6/#findComment-150928 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkolsen 1684 Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 Don't the FLIR cameras have easily user serviceable parts? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14765-kfmbs-helicopter/page/6/#findComment-150934 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eat News 4745 Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 Don't the FLIR cameras have easily user serviceable parts? Depends on the model and parts availability...and the availability of a person to perform such task. The camera swap was already planned, but the water issue is a housing thing. Not sure if that seal / gasket is an off the shelf item. (I swear rkolsen don't send me a link showing a 3year old changing a 25mm "O"ring on a flir unit blindfolded) Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14765-kfmbs-helicopter/page/6/#findComment-150935 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkolsen 1684 Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 (I swear rkolsen don't send me a link showing a 3year old changing a 25mm "O"ring on a flir unit blindfolded) I imagine you already do. I hear the FLIR cameras (despite needing State Dept approval to export as its "military hardware") are made right next to the NBC Consumer Investigative Unite call center. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14765-kfmbs-helicopter/page/6/#findComment-150936 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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