patsx3 17 Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Ed Ansin drops fight to keep NBC affiliation for WHDH http://www.bostonglobe.com/business/2016/08/16/ansin-drops-fight-keep-nbc-affiliation-for-whdh/QhrrLP3crf8BPaKBGUOmUJ/story.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardek1995 200 Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Ed Ansin drops fight to keep NBC affiliation for WHDH http://www.bostonglobe.com/business/2016/08/16/ansin-drops-fight-keep-nbc-affiliation-for-whdh/QhrrLP3crf8BPaKBGUOmUJ/story.html I figured this would happen, especially considering it happened back in the late 80s in Miami. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GroupWBZ 73 Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Ed Ansin drops fight to keep NBC affiliation for WHDH http://www.bostonglobe.com/business/2016/08/16/ansin-drops-fight-keep-nbc-affiliation-for-whdh/QhrrLP3crf8BPaKBGUOmUJ/story.html It'll be interesting not only where NBC ends up (WNEU? Somewhere else?) but how 'HDH fairs as an independent. I know the article mentioned adding more news coverage, but what else? No way they can fill all that space with news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patsx3 17 Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 I also wonder how long that business model will be sustainable for them. Not only will they be retaining the employees they have now, they're also adding personnel as the article mentions. I assume initially they'll be able to accommodate that staffing level, but I wonder for how long. One would think that viewers will inevitably begin to drift away from WHDH when they have very little in terms of programming to attract viewers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardek1995 200 Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 It'll be interesting not only where NBC ends up (WNEU? Somewhere else?) but how 'HDH fairs as an independent. I know the article mentioned adding more news coverage, but what else? No way they can fill all that space with news.They kind of already did with WSVN I don't think the FCC has any rules requiring the broadcast networks to be over the air. Well, the WB network, UPN, the CW (early on anyway), and Fox up until 2006, and all have been broadcast in smaller markets on cable and even ABC was considering going cable-only 2 years ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyHarry 721 Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 I...really, really like this idea, in particular for WCVB. And I could see corporate supporting it, too--Hearst is one of the largest NBC affil owners, after all. I also don't think there's much risk to CVB's position in the market doing so, either--at this point it needs to be conceded that wherever NBC Boston ends up, unless it's on a proper signal, it's not going to be competitive for a good while. It only makes Hearst more money. This at least buys NBC some time until they can get a proper signal or if there's some sort of FCC/government dispute. But of course I'm sure Comcast/NBC would prefer everyone in New England pay for Xfinity. It's win-win, if you ask me, except for degradation of the OTA signal, but I think they can squeeze 720p and 1080i on the same channel. It wouldn't matter with cable viewers because they can allocate full bandwidth. NBC doesn't have to sink $200 million for a full market signal, not yet anyway. Hearst can get some pretty big lease payments from NBC based on the $200 million they don't have to spend. Just pulling some numbers out of my behind, but 8% of $200 million is $16 million. That's a fairly hefty increase in revenue from leasing a channel to NBC to rebroadcast WNEU ... Far better than they can do with MeTV or any of the other subchannels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnothy 43 Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 WHDH has announced their news expansion plans for January 2017: http://www.tvnewscheck.com/article/97015/whdh-boston-unveils-expanded-news-plans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Former Member 207 Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 It's win-win, if you ask me, except for degradation of the OTA signal, but I think they can squeeze 720p and 1080i on the same channel. It wouldn't matter with cable viewers because they can allocate full bandwidth. NBC doesn't have to sink $200 million for a full market signal, not yet anyway. Hearst can get some pretty big lease payments from NBC based on the $200 million they don't have to spend. Just pulling some numbers out of my behind, but 8% of $200 million is $16 million. That's a fairly hefty increase in revenue from leasing a channel to NBC to rebroadcast WNEU ... Far better than they can do with MeTV or any of the other subchannels. I've been of the feeling since this whole thing started that NBC should have talked with Hearst about affiliating with WMUR, and re-broadcast their signal (in full HD) on WCVB's second subchannel (and vice-versa with WCVB on WMUR's second subchannel). Shift Me-TV to the third subchannel of the respective station. WCVB: 5.1 ABC, 5.3 MeTV, 9.2 (re-map) NBC WMUR: 9.1 NBC, 9.3 MeTV, 5.2 (re-map) ABC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleSeven 1945 Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Ed Ansin drops fight to keep NBC affiliation for WHDH http://www.bostonglobe.com/business/2016/08/16/ansin-drops-fight-keep-nbc-affiliation-for-whdh/QhrrLP3crf8BPaKBGUOmUJ/story.html This was no surprise. All Ansin was doing was burning a whole lot of money, appealing on something he knew he had no chance on winning. It'll be interesting not only where NBC ends up (WNEU? Somewhere else?) but how 'HDH fairs as an independent. I know the article mentioned adding more news coverage, but what else? No way they can fill all that space with news. I also wonder how long that business model will be sustainable for them. Not only will they be retaining the employees they have now, they're also adding personnel as the article mentions. I assume initially they'll be able to accommodate that staffing level, but I wonder for how long. One would think that viewers will inevitably begin to drift away from WHDH when they have very little in terms of programming to attract viewers. I do agree. They can't just rely on expanding on their news footprint, just to thrive post-NBC. But Ansin is not known for acquiring lucrative syndicated programming (unlike its competitors, look at 'SVN's lineup). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24994J 5327 Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 87 friggin' hours??? I guess I can't complain about Chicago's soon-to-be indie, anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newsbot 269 Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 I've been of the feeling since this whole thing started that NBC should have talked with Hearst about affiliating with WMUR, and re-broadcast their signal (in full HD) on WCVB's second subchannel (and vice-versa with WCVB on WMUR's second subchannel). Shift Me-TV to the third subchannel of the respective station. WCVB: 5.1 ABC, 5.3 MeTV, 9.2 (re-map) NBC WMUR: 9.1 NBC, 9.3 MeTV, 5.2 (re-map) ABC While Hearst has a longstanding relationship with NBC Universal, I don't see what WCVB stands to gain from enabling a news competitor in one of its own markets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardek1995 200 Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 87 friggin' hours??? I guess I can't complain about Chicago's soon-to-be indie, anymore.Now that I consider that Ansin managed to make a news intensive station in Miami, I guess I cant really complain much either, not that we could do anything about it of course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fan of la tv 47 Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Not sure how they get up to 87 hours of news. Based on the article, there will be 12 hours of news each weekday and 7 hours of news each on Saturday and Sunday. That comes up to 74 hours. That's still more than any other station in the US I believe, but still way less than 87. Did I miss anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRolyPoly 1847 Posted August 16, 2016 Author Share Posted August 16, 2016 Summary: - 7 News Today in New England is adding another two hours on weekdays from 7:00-9:00am. - new 6:30pm newscast being added, 7 nights a week. - the 7:00pm newscast expands to weekends as well. - new hour-long 9:00pm newscast, 7 nights a week. - the 10:00pm newscast is simulcast with WLVI 56 and will probably do so for the time being. - the 6:00am hour on Saturdays moves to 8:00am. - the 7:30am half-hour on Sundays moves to 10:30am and adds an 8:00am hour. I'll report this on my blog shortly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NowBergen 506 Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 This also indicates the CW is not moving to WHDH. Considering Fox ended up affiliating with Ansin in Miami, one has to wonder how sustainable over the long term this approach will be. A couple of years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewsMaster 226 Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Hold everything, people. A lawyer for WHDH told the Boston Business Journal that their fight with the Peacock is not over, although he acknowledged that time is running out. It...is...still...possible...that...WHDH...could...stay...with...NBC... I've been of the feeling since this whole thing started that NBC should have talked with Hearst about affiliating with WMUR, and re-broadcast their signal (in full HD) on WCVB's second subchannel (and vice-versa with WCVB on WMUR's second subchannel). Shift Me-TV to the third subchannel of the respective station. WCVB: 5.1 ABC, 5.3 MeTV, 9.2 (re-map) NBC WMUR: 9.1 NBC, 9.3 MeTV, 5.2 (re-map) ABC That makes no sense. WMUR's transmitter is in the same place as WNEU's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardek1995 200 Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 Hold everything, people. A lawyer for WHDH told the Boston Business Journal that their fight with the Peacock is not over, although he acknowledged that time is running out.Well in that case, there really is still time, but as he acknowledged, it's running out, and the deadline is January of next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasTVNews 1367 Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 Another chapter in this mellow TV soap opera drama of "As The Ansin Turns". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrabbleship 427 Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 Another chapter in this mellow TV soap opera drama of "As The Ansin Turns". I prefer "The Wreck of the Edmund Ansin". And if this makes it to air, it will be a wreck indeed. At least that when the closest parallel to the future WHDH/WLVI arrangement, KTVK/KASW, was a thing it had programming people wanted to watch and people in charge with a clue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomadcowatbk 144 Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 Ed Ansin drops fight to keep NBC affiliation for WHDH http://www.bostonglobe.com/business/2016/08/16/ansin-drops-fight-keep-nbc-affiliation-for-whdh/QhrrLP3crf8BPaKBGUOmUJ/story.html are there any sports packages that would be available? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mre29 1359 Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 Welp, this should be interesting. When does WLVI's affiliation contract with the CW expire? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrabbleship 427 Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 Welp, this should be interesting. When does WLVI's affiliation contract with the CW expire? It was supposed to expire at the end of this month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justin2kx 229 Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 Earth to Ed Ansin....Earth to Ed Ansin....The CW is right there...Shift it and align the 'LVI programming inventory with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyrannical bastard 3541 Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 The way things are going, unless you're an O&O or a major group station that doesn't piss off the networks, this is the only avenue for the smaller groups that are vulnerable to having their affiliation stripped away by bigger groups or the network itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Muck 4309 Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 I also wonder how long that business model will be sustainable for them. Not only will they be retaining the employees they have now, they're also adding personnel as the article mentions. I assume initially they'll be able to accommodate that staffing level, but I wonder for how long. One would think that viewers will inevitably begin to drift away from WHDH when they have very little in terms of programming to attract viewers. Most experts said the same thing about WSVN in 1988, that running it as a news-intensive independent (and nominal Fox affiliate) would be a ratings and financial disaster. Ed Ansin obviously was emboldened by that level of vindication and is confident he can do it again with WHDH... regardless of how vastly different the stakes are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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