CircleSeven 1955 Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 http://www.binghamtonhomepage.com/news/local-news/taj-tandoor-offers-variety-of-dishes-for-binghamton-restaurant-week/681459311 RIP Ackerley graphics on WIVT Looks like they're using the variant of WKRC's former graphics. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15462-oldest-graphics-still-in-use/page/3/#findComment-169966 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TennTV1983 804 Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Looks like they're using the variant of WKRC's former graphics. They're using the same graphics WSYR still currently uses. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15462-oldest-graphics-still-in-use/page/3/#findComment-170057 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samantha 2895 Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Well, they also began presenting the news in HD. You knew that was going to happen at some point; HD was a gleam in planners' eyes when TVbD created this set in 1996. Apparently it happened around December 15! I'm amazed the logo survived intact. They have a few applications of it on their social page, which aren't very consistent. It's also interesting to see they've kept the very TVbD-esque practice of one-line mini chyrons. A lot of TVbD graphics packages from the 90s and early 2000s did that, like the one WIVT had. ( , as examples) This was the last WIVT story with the TVbD set: http://www.binghamtonhomepage.com/news/local-news/local-students-connect-rights-to-responsibilities-on-world-human-rights-day/618939521 And this was its replacement: http://www.binghamtonhomepage.com/news/local-news/ithaca-officer-makes-arrest-saves-christmas/620779990 Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15462-oldest-graphics-still-in-use/page/3/#findComment-170070 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMassMediaGeek 98 Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 http://www.binghamtonhomepage.com/news/local-news/taj-tandoor-offers-variety-of-dishes-for-binghamton-restaurant-week/681459311 RIP Ackerley graphics on WIVT Aaaand they are now using Signature by Stephen Arnold for WIVT's news music Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15462-oldest-graphics-still-in-use/page/3/#findComment-170077 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleSeven 1955 Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Aaaand they are now using Signature by Stephen Arnold for WIVT's news music Pay attention to Binghamton, non-Arnold MG markets. That's going to be you next. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15462-oldest-graphics-still-in-use/page/3/#findComment-170080 Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed053 37 Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Aaaand they are now using Signature by Stephen Arnold for WIVT's news music I'm going to miss the News Station theme by Gari Media Group... Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15462-oldest-graphics-still-in-use/page/3/#findComment-170097 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viper550 291 Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 It's also interesting to see they've kept the very TVbD-esque practice of one-line mini chyrons. A lot of TVbD graphics packages from the 90s and early 2000s did that, like the one WIVT had. ( , as examples) Actually that feature has been used by the other stations who used it as well. Right down to its originator; Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15462-oldest-graphics-still-in-use/page/3/#findComment-170111 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samantha 2895 Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Actually that feature has been used by the other stations who used it as well. Right down to its originator; Could they have the words "Local 12" in any more places on there? That's also a case where TVbD introduced the tactic, for sure. TVbD absolutely loved it, and WKRC loved them too with several packages coming from them. (More examples: KFMB, ) It's actually a great idea because it reduces the amount of visual clutter on screen. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15462-oldest-graphics-still-in-use/page/3/#findComment-170114 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyrannical bastard 3951 Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 WKRC was where it started...It was originally called "texta". It seemed that Newport Television were the ones who spread the concept widely around their stations, and when Nexstar bought WPTY and rechristened it as WATN, they acquired WKRCs package and sent it off to some of their own stations. On the Sinclair end of the Newport divestitures, WHP dropped it soon after, and stations like WHAM, WPMI and WKRC kept it until they were "Sinclair-run" or launched their current look (WKRC). Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15462-oldest-graphics-still-in-use/page/3/#findComment-170152 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ntropolis 596 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 Now that WIVT has updated, have we determined what station is using the oldest graphics package (that isn't Canadian)? Is it 'JZ? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15462-oldest-graphics-still-in-use/page/3/#findComment-170194 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrknowitall526 115 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 Regarding KIEM Hell hath frozen over. New talent open, new lower thirds, but with the same tired OTS and horrible production music. And they are using Calibri as the font. The set also has not been modified since installed circa 1996. Ugh, Calibri is the worst font ever to exist! Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15462-oldest-graphics-still-in-use/page/3/#findComment-170257 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samantha 2895 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 WKRC was where it started...It was originally called "texta". It seemed that Newport Television were the ones who spread the concept widely around their stations, and when Nexstar bought WPTY and rechristened it as WATN, they acquired WKRCs package and sent it off to some of their own stations. On the Sinclair end of the Newport divestitures, WHP dropped it soon after, and stations like WHAM, WPMI and WKRC kept it until they were "Sinclair-run" or launched their current look (WKRC). Wow, I missed this (seeing another WIVT-related item brought me here). Never knew it had a name, but indeed there are a couple of contemporary references to Texta. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15462-oldest-graphics-still-in-use/page/3/#findComment-176505 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viper550 291 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Meanwhile in sports, MASN's graphics also seem pretty old. Their last notable update were in 2010, and that was to change the scoreboard to emulate the then-new ESPN corner box, but it was the same style. Given this is the same market as WJZ we're talking about here... Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15462-oldest-graphics-still-in-use/page/3/#findComment-176531 Share on other sites More sharing options...
A3N 1002 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Meanwhile in sports, MASN's graphics also seem pretty old. Their last notable update were in 2010, and that was to change the scoreboard to emulate the then-new ESPN corner box, but it was the same style. Given this is the same market as WJZ we're talking about here... I for sure thought they were going to get new graphics since they received a new production truck for this season. I'm sure they'll try to squeeze out an extra few years out of this graphics package before they finally do retire it. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15462-oldest-graphics-still-in-use/page/3/#findComment-176541 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samantha 2895 Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 So I found this while rooting through the Internet Archive... Looks like TVbD originated the concept and the term. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15462-oldest-graphics-still-in-use/page/3/#findComment-177065 Share on other sites More sharing options...
compubit 673 Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 Well, after a brief trip to Richmond yesterday, I can confirm that WRLH is still using Daily News and the same Sinclair Graphics from back in 2006, albeit in HD... I guess that WWBT hasn't been pushed to upgrade along the way.... BTW, late night weekend newscasts are ungodly boring - 1 anchor reading every story - only one story covered by a reporter - everything else was the anchor reading over the video. I'm looking at you, WRIC... Jim Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15462-oldest-graphics-still-in-use/page/3/#findComment-177824 Share on other sites More sharing options...
compubit 673 Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 Well, after a brief trip to Richmond yesterday, I can confirm that WRLH is still using Daily News and the same Sinclair Graphics from back in 2006, albeit in HD... I guess that WWBT hasn't been pushed to upgrade along the way.... Jim Quick correction - there has been one change: the font was Helvetica and is now Franklin Gothic (just found some 2008 video footage online), I guess that probably came with WWBT's transition to HD (Character Generator change that probably didn't include Helvetica...). Otherwise, the gradients and L3s look the same... WRLH 2008: [GALLERY=media, 1011]WRLH-2008 by compubit posted Jul 2, 2017 at 9:38 PM[/GALLERY] WRLH 2017: [GALLERY=media, 1012]WRLH-2017 by compubit posted Jul 2, 2017 at 9:39 PM[/GALLERY] Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15462-oldest-graphics-still-in-use/page/3/#findComment-177825 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samantha 2895 Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 Are those graphics upconverted or were they designed for HDTV? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15462-oldest-graphics-still-in-use/page/3/#findComment-177826 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nathannah 2429 Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 BTW, late night weekend newscasts are ungodly boring - 1 anchor reading every story - only one story covered by a reporter - everything else was the anchor reading over the video. I'm looking at you, WRIC... That's definitely the Young/Media General template for weekend news still at WRIC; WBAY is trying to get out of it themselves under Gray but they had a promo a few weeks ago where the anchor had the line 'get your news, sports and weather, tonight at 10!' on a very slow Sunday night. And most of the stories are just best-ofs of the week or public information pieces. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15462-oldest-graphics-still-in-use/page/3/#findComment-177827 Share on other sites More sharing options...
compubit 673 Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 Are those graphics upconverted or were they designed for HDTV? The backgrounds have all of the fuzziness of an upconverted image... J Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15462-oldest-graphics-still-in-use/page/3/#findComment-177830 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samantha 2895 Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 The backgrounds have all of the fuzziness of an upconverted image... J Yeah, that package really came in at the very start of HD news graphics being made. (Though some efforts in that space had been conducted as early as the end of the 90s.) Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15462-oldest-graphics-still-in-use/page/3/#findComment-177831 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tw-804 192 Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 Well, after a brief trip to Richmond yesterday, I can confirm that WRLH is still using Daily News and the same Sinclair Graphics from back in 2006, albeit in HD... Yeah, and I'm still waiting for them to get the new graphics and music. I've been saying this a lot on this forum and I'll say it again: WRLH, it's time to let the old graphics and music go!! They're like the WJZ of the group. (Oh, God. Can't believe I said that...) Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15462-oldest-graphics-still-in-use/page/3/#findComment-177882 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Muck 4374 Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 So I found this while rooting through the Internet Archive... Looks like TVbD originated the concept and the term. I have a feeling TVbD used WGHP as the first station for the texta concept. This video was right as Fox took over. Texta is still used by WGHP to this day, having been utilized on every single graphics package since the TVbD look. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15462-oldest-graphics-still-in-use/page/3/#findComment-177909 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samantha 2895 Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 I have a feeling TVbD used WGHP as the first station for the texta concept. This video was right as Fox took over. Texta is still used by WGHP to this day, having been utilized on every single graphics package since the TVbD look. The first Texta package was WKRC, if you look up. TVbD spread the concept to other stations they serviced. It looks like the philosophy has hung on long after its graphics at some stations. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15462-oldest-graphics-still-in-use/page/3/#findComment-177910 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darius22 122 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 pretty soon WRLH is going to pull a WLUK or just Switch to Sinclair Glass. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15462-oldest-graphics-still-in-use/page/3/#findComment-178604 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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