ColDayNews 437 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 I heard WCMH use a cut from The Tower (the NBC O&O package from the early 2000s) mistakenly for a breaking news cut-in a few months ago. I know WBNS used This Is Your News for a long time (1998-February) and it still sees occasional use in promos (especially for The Big 10TV Toy Drive). I heard TiYN today during a 10TV promo thanking Columbus for their donations to the holiday toy drive, which inspired me to ask what the oldest music in continuous or occasional use that any of you know of is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkolsen 1679 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Well off the top of my head is WPVI's Move Closer To Your World (3+ decades) and WJZ's Chroma Cues (2+ decades). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFTV 484 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 KRON Instant Classics Gari - One and Only Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfomspphl 453 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 I think one or more of the ABC O&Os uses an Eyewitness News first gen cut here and there - which dates to 1994. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
news89 467 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 EDITED: Impact survives on WTVT for weather segments. WTOC would have been at the 30 years with original "Newschannel" cuts however thanks to Raycom they switched to Arnold theme. WJW use to air cuts of Fusion and Power news till 2009 and late as 2011. WKYC used tower cuts after first Gannett graphics in 2008. WPVI--Move Closer To Your world (1972) WJZ-Chorma Cues(1987) WLS-WLS News Package(1992) WPLG-The One and Only(1993) WABC-Eyewitness News (1993) KSAT-The One and Only(1994) WRAL-In Sink (1994) KABC-Eyewitness News (1995) WAVY- Newswire (1995) WOOD-Primetime News(1995) WDBJ-Impact (1996) still using V2 cuts as of today KEYT-Impact(1997) KUSI-The One and Only (1997) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TServo2049 81 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 If it were continuous use, WPVI would win but for that week in 1996 that they introduced the London Philharmonic update, then dropped it after viewer outcry. Does it just have to be the same package? The OP makes it sound like it actually has to be old cuts. Is WJZ still using any of the original Chroma Cues cuts? SFTV, KRON Instant Classics may date back to 1995, but remember that they only brought it back in 2006, after they dropped Overture during the SESAC-alypse. (Though it's still noteworthy that they brought back an 11-year-old package, with no updates, after 5 years of not using it, and have continued to use it for longer than they used it originally.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChesapeakeTV 310 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 WAVY was still using the forecast sounder from Newswire V.1 (1992) up until recently...I believe they only quit using it a few months ago. (Not sure if the sounder actually dates back to 1992 or was part of the 2001 updates though, so it may not count.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
promoguy98 252 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 WAVY was still using the forecast sounder from Newswire V.1 (1992) up until recently...I believe they only quit using it a few months ago. (Not sure if the sounder actually dates back to 1992 or was part of the 2001 updates though, so it may not count.) Yep, that was a heavily spliced cut from the 2-CD 2001 updates that was used. It was actually the opening intro, looped twice then a cut to the end logo tag of the music with the thunder sfx. The cut in question was a :30 second theme that may or may not have been used anywhere else, besides for the chopped down weather sting thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
news89 467 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 WAVY/WVBT is still only ones using Newswire. WEEK dropped it for 360 theme back in the fall. WAVY is using V2. WJZ as far I know isn't using old cues cuts, then again "There's Only 1 JZ". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJClementeFan69 477 Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 EDITED: Impact survives on WTVT for weather segments. WTOC would have been at the 30 years with original "Newschannel" cuts however thanks to Raycom they switched to Arnold theme. WJW use to air cuts of Fusion and Power news till 2009 and late as 2011. WKYC used tower cuts after first Gannett graphics in 2008. WPVI--Move Closer To Your world (1972) WJZ-Chorma Cues(1987) WLS-WLS News Package(1992) WPLG-The One and Only(1993) WABC-Eyewitness News (1993) KSAT-The One and Only(1994) WRAL-In Sink (1994) KABC-Eyewitness News (1995) WAVY- Newswire (1995) WOOD-Primetime News(1995) WDBJ-Impact (1996) still using V2 cuts as of today KEYT-Impact(1997) KUSI-The One and Only (1997) What's interesting is how The One and Only is virtually unrecognizable in its current form...the cut WPLG uses for its open might as well be production music. Evolution, I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ntropolis 593 Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 WTOC would have been at the 30 years with original "Newschannel" cuts however thanks to Raycom they switched to Arnold theme. Were they using any of the original cuts at the time they dropped it? These sound like updates from the 90s: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eat News 4738 Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Pretty sure the oldest news music award goes to KBEX for the Signature Teletype series from the AT&T production music haus (1961) This series of high energy and dramatic cuts are still used today at KBEX-3/6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkolsen 1679 Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Pretty sure the oldest news music award goes to KBEX for the Signature Teletype series from the AT&T production music haus (1961) This series of high energy and dramatic cuts are still used today at KBEX-3/6 If I recall correctly KBEX hasn't migrated to the digital wire service feeds and transmitter man Dan-Dan has to physically swap the line whenever someone has to make a call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eat News 4738 Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 If I recall correctly KBEX hasn't migrated to the digital wire service feeds and transmitter man Dan-Dan has to physically swap the line whenever someone has to make a call. It got tricky for him (Dan-Dan The Transmitter Man) when he would drunk dial the news department. Poor guy almost strangled himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
promoguy98 252 Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Were they using any of the original cuts at the time they dropped it? These sound like updates from the 90s: Right until the end, they used at least of couple of original 80's series cuts as bumpers. Considering News Music Now probably doesn't have every theme or major variation uploaded and since it's a pack that I do not have, I can give a couple of examples based on what they have uploaded. The Series 1 emotional and upbeat cuts were both used going to random breaks during the newscasts. It is possible that the vamp from the Series I Noon Open was used somewhere as well. Not 100% sure about that one, but I am sure about the upbeat and emotional cuts being used. Random thought, amazing how much the same style was shared between series I of this package, the Hello News 83 updates and the Catch 5 early 80's updates. Also, when I think of Newschannel, sounds from the movie Flashdance come to mind. Scary! haaaa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jess 1110 Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 I think one or more of the ABC O&Os uses an Eyewitness News first gen cut here and there - which dates to 1994. WABC probably. The bumpers clearly date to 1994, while the open and close music is 1999. Vintage at this point but I have a feeling those cuts have become iconic... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToriElectra 291 Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 WABC probably. The bumpers clearly date to 1994, while the open and close music is 1999. Vintage at this point but I have a feeling those cuts have become iconic... They only used the EWN Series 1 cuts for the weekend morning news after a while, and they got rid of them entirely around 2008-09ish. The bumpers they use for everything now are part of Series 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleSeven 1944 Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 They only used the EWN Series 1 cuts for the weekend morning news after a while, and they got rid of them entirely around 2008-09ish. The bumpers they use for everything now are part of Series 4. Don't they still use that same Series 1 cue for its "Community Calender" segment on their weekend AM show? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToriElectra 291 Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Don't they still use that same Series 1 cue for its "Community Calender" segment on their weekend AM show? Not anymore, no. I had heard that cut for years, and didn't know it came from a larger theme until I saw an old KABC close with the long cut of EWN Series 1 on Youtube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newsn8te 190 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 WTOC used the Series 1 "Grand Open" as the close up until the switch to Overture. A lot of Gari's old themes are shared throughout different packages. The "Grand Open" listed here is also used in the Champion News Pack. Also the Series 1 political cut in newschannel is used as a couple primary themes in Good News. Right until the end, they used at least of couple of original 80's series cuts as bumpers. Considering News Music Now probably doesn't have every theme or major variation uploaded and since it's a pack that I do not have, I can give a couple of examples based on what they have uploaded. The Series 1 emotional and upbeat cuts were both used going to random breaks during the newscasts. It is possible that the vamp from the Series I Noon Open was used somewhere as well. Not 100% sure about that one, but I am sure about the upbeat and emotional cuts being used. Random thought, amazing how much the same style was shared between series I of this package, the Hello News 83 updates and the Catch 5 early 80's updates. Also, when I think of Newschannel, sounds from the movie Flashdance come to mind. Scary! haaaa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
promoguy98 252 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 WTOC used the Series 1 "Grand Open" as the close up until the switch to Overture. A lot of Gari's old themes are shared throughout different packages. The "Grand Open" listed here is also used in the Champion News Pack. Also the Series 1 political cut in newschannel is used as a couple primary themes in Good News. Oh yeah, I forgot about that close being used! And you're right, many of the older packages shared pollinated cuts with only the signatures being changed out and occasionally logo overlays over the music bed in places. It's my understanding that the beds were never market exclusive, but the signatures were. That's why you could have two different packages being used in the same market, that happened to share the same "music bed" portion of a theme cut. That Series 1 political cut you mentioned was also used in Great News, and at least 5 other packages. Five may be putting it mildly. That cut definitely got "around the block" if you know what I mean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newsn8te 190 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Speaking of newschannel, do you or does anyone here know which series of News channel WAFB used in the main open before the switch to CBS Local? Oh yeah, I forgot about that close being used! And you're right, many of the older packages shared pollinated cuts with only the signatures being changed out and occasionally logo overlays over the music bed in places. It's my understanding that the beds were never market exclusive, but the signatures were. That's why you could have two different packages being used in the same market, that happened to share the same "music bed" portion of a theme cut. That Series 1 political cut you mentioned was also used in Great News, and at least 5 other packages. Five may be putting it mildly. That cut definitely got "around the block" if you know what I mean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
promoguy98 252 Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 Speaking of newschannel, do you or does anyone here know which series of News channel WAFB used in the main open before the switch to CBS Local? Huge edit: scratch everything I said if it went to your email as a notification.... I had WTOC on my mind when I posted and not WAFB! Not sure what they used, but I do know it was an updated series or New Generation cut. LoL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newsn8te 190 Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 Hahahaha!!! I've always been confused on that. It shares some series 5 beats but I also hear some new generation in it. Huge edit: scratch everything I said if it went to your email as a notification.... I had WTOC on my mind when I posted and not WAFB! Not sure what they used, but I do know it was an updated series or New Generation cut. LoL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Muck 4168 Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Pretty sure the oldest news music award goes to KBEX for the Signature Teletype series from the AT&T production music haus (1961) This series of high energy and dramatic cuts are still used today at KBEX-3/6 That teletype sounder has always been used as background noise for the legacy Group W all-news stations. KYW 1060 and 1010 WINS adopted it in 1965 and still use it; KFWB 980 adopted it in 1968 and used it until 2009, when it flipped to talk radio (after was ultimately placed into a dispersal trust). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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