Samantha 2895 Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Not sure why, but KPHO has a new set...its second new set in three years... [MEDIA=twitter]855113133102321664[/MEDIA] Preston Phillips also says KTVK got a new set — its Devlin product dated to 2007. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15671-new-kpho-and-ktvk-sets/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkolsen 1684 Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 I didn't know KPHO got a new set. I thought they moved the old one over to the KTVK building. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15671-new-kpho-and-ktvk-sets/#findComment-171509 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleSeven 1955 Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 I didn't know KPHO got a new set. I thought they moved the old one over to the KTVK building. Yeah. And brought the old set with it. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15671-new-kpho-and-ktvk-sets/#findComment-171513 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samantha 2895 Posted April 20, 2017 Author Share Posted April 20, 2017 Yeah. And brought the old set with it. They did. And now it's being scrapped. The set debuted in February 2014 at the old location, soon moved over to the 7th Avenue site, and now is gone. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15671-new-kpho-and-ktvk-sets/#findComment-171516 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrtraveler01 738 Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 The $20,000 question will be will KTVK finally dump the old Belo gfx and get a graphic package of their own? The real question is why didn't they just give a new set to KTVK and left the same one for KPHO. I didn't think it looked dated. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15671-new-kpho-and-ktvk-sets/#findComment-171535 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGSJenkins 435 Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 They should have given the old set to KFSN. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15671-new-kpho-and-ktvk-sets/#findComment-171541 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samantha 2895 Posted April 21, 2017 Author Share Posted April 21, 2017 The $20,000 question will be will KTVK finally dump the old Belo gfx and get a graphic package of their own? The real question is why didn't they just give a new set to KTVK and left the same one for KPHO. I didn't think it looked dated. The KPHO set had a bit of a cheap feel to it and I suspect that was the reason why here. This looks like a nicer set with richer textures. The KPHO-KTVK cluster is in need of a graphics rethink because they have two looks that don't go well together. KPHO is using the same graphics that it debuted with the set and The Edge in February 2014. A lot of KTVK graphic elements creep onto KPHO. I was at Whole Foods lately and saw a KPHO segment during their Saturday 6:30 that was recycled from GMAZ. Look at this. The KPHO revised L3s (not the original) do not overlay the Belo set. I had to snap a picture of it because it looked so awful. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15671-new-kpho-and-ktvk-sets/#findComment-171555 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleSeven 1955 Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 Extremely tacky. They could've recorded a raw footage of that same segment without the L3. And why are they even airing this kind of lighter fare this late in the day? They don't have any other news stories to fill at 6:40 at night? This is why I've been vocal against these crazy news expansions. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15671-new-kpho-and-ktvk-sets/#findComment-171574 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrtraveler01 738 Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 The KPHO set had a bit of a cheap feel to it and I suspect that was the reason why here. This looks like a nicer set with richer textures. The KPHO-KTVK cluster is in need of a graphics rethink because they have two looks that don't go well together. KPHO is using the same graphics that it debuted with the set and The Edge in February 2014. A lot of KTVK graphic elements creep onto KPHO. I was at Whole Foods lately and saw a KPHO segment during their Saturday 6:30 that was recycled from GMAZ. Look at this. The KPHO revised L3s (not the original) do not overlay the Belo set. I had to snap a picture of it because it looked so awful. Ive noticed that the L3's on KPHO are starting to copy their crosstown competitor KXNV. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15671-new-kpho-and-ktvk-sets/#findComment-171577 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weeters 1916 Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 Extremely tacky. They could've recorded a raw footage of that same segment without the L3. And why are they even airing this kind of lighter fare this late in the day? They don't have any other news stories to fill at 6:40 at night? This is why I've been vocal against these crazy news expansions. You can do that if you plan ahead. Something tells me they did not plan, some producer juat wanted something to fill time, remembered that segment, and had an editor dig up the air check. "It won't look good but at least it fills 3 minutes." Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15671-new-kpho-and-ktvk-sets/#findComment-171583 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samantha 2895 Posted April 26, 2017 Author Share Posted April 26, 2017 Apparently the KTVK and KPHO Facebook pages have been consolidated as "3TV Phoenix". With the new sets, I wonder if some more brand cleanup is next... Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15671-new-kpho-and-ktvk-sets/#findComment-171873 Share on other sites More sharing options...
norcalTVfan 15 Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Apparently the KTVK and KPHO Facebook pages have been consolidated as "3TV Phoenix". With the new sets, I wonder if some more brand cleanup is next... The CBS 5 AZ Facebook page is still alive and well. I literally just checked. I did, however, notice that 3TV's Facebook page is branded as "az family 3TV CBS 5." Both pages feature a "power of 2" logo in some promos. That logo prominently features both the 3 and 5. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15671-new-kpho-and-ktvk-sets/#findComment-171878 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samantha 2895 Posted April 26, 2017 Author Share Posted April 26, 2017 The CBS 5 AZ Facebook page is still alive and well. I literally just checked. I did, however, notice that 3TV's Facebook page is branded as "az family 3TV CBS 5." Both pages feature a "power of 2" logo in some promos. That logo prominently features both the 3 and 5. https://www.facebook.com/cbs5az no longer exists — and that's the link the KPHO site takes you to. Neither does https://www.facebook.com/3TVPhoenix ... 3 has *many* more Twitter followers (216K versus 48.9K) and it had more FB likes — the current AZ Family Facebook page (URL https://www.facebook.com/arizonasfamily ) has 479,000 of them to KPHO's 298,000. It also has this really cheap looking "az family" temporary profile picture typeset in Calibri, put up just two hours ago: And while they're at it, the KPHO site template has not changed substantially since late 2009. It's not responsive, obviously. 7.5 years is an eternity on the internet. And the other Meredith stations have the same template. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15671-new-kpho-and-ktvk-sets/#findComment-171883 Share on other sites More sharing options...
norcalTVfan 15 Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 I stand corrected. This is what I found "CBS 5 Phoenix." The link I clicked earlier said "CBS 5 AZ." Anyhow, this screenshot is from less than five minutes ago. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15671-new-kpho-and-ktvk-sets/#findComment-171901 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samantha 2895 Posted April 26, 2017 Author Share Posted April 26, 2017 Interesting. They need someone to figure out their branding. KPHO is definitely on a temporary set (duratrans with one 16x9 monitor piece). KTVK's set looks normal but one or two things have changed. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15671-new-kpho-and-ktvk-sets/#findComment-171906 Share on other sites More sharing options...
A3N 1002 Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Interesting. They need someone to figure out their branding. No doubt. What a mess. They drop Arizona from CBS 5 for Phoenix, only to emphasize AZ Family (which they should have retired many years ago). I always liked the NewsChannel 3 branding. They should have brought it back for the newscasts, and used KTVK3 for non-news programming. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15671-new-kpho-and-ktvk-sets/#findComment-171907 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samantha 2895 Posted April 26, 2017 Author Share Posted April 26, 2017 No doubt. What a mess. They drop Arizona from CBS 5 for Phoenix, only to emphasize AZ Family (which they should have been retired many years ago). I always liked the NewsChannel 3 branding. They should have brought it back for the newscasts, and used KTVK3 for non-news programming. People *still* call it NewsChannel 3, especially if they've been in Phoenix a while. I suggested the Eyewitness News brand (which both stations used at one point or another) if they wanted a deeper integration, but that doesn't fit what they've gone for. As to the Phoenix part, it's almost a necessity to put a place name in your Facebook page if you have a common number-network combo or brand. When KSAZ ditched the awful MyFoxPhoenix website, instead of going back to fox10.com, they changed to fox10phoenix.com. KNXV is now doing more and more branding as "ABC15 Arizona" (a bit redundant, but...). Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15671-new-kpho-and-ktvk-sets/#findComment-171908 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrtraveler01 738 Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Someone on the CBS 5 Facebook page asked them about the name change and this was the response. Hi there! We will be combining the 3TV Facebook page with the CBS 5 to become one Facebook page - Arizona's family. This is the first step in that process.. you will still be able to access all the great content from both stations- now just all on one page. Thanks!!! Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15671-new-kpho-and-ktvk-sets/#findComment-171913 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TVIntheDesert 183 Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Someone on the CBS 5 Facebook page asked them about the name change and this was the response. Hi there! We will be combining the 3TV Facebook page with the CBS 5 to become one Facebook page - Arizona's family. This is the first step in that process.. you will still be able to access all the great content from both stations- now just all on one page. Thanks!!! It makes pretty good sense. They've been gradually trying to combine the newsrooms and brand for almost two years now. Now that Meredith is rolling out OTT apps for streaming devices (they have a number of them already for Amazon Fire TV, with KPHO/KTVK still missing), they need to work out a unified online brand. I wonder what they'll do to combine the redundant news replay and weather subchannels on 3.2 and 3.3, respectively? When I spoke to the GM, he has neither confirmed nor denied that they plan on adding the Comet TV diginet to one of those subchannels. In a world where everything is moving to OTT (even the content on 3.2 is simulcast on LiveStream), the news/weather subchannel is pretty passé. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15671-new-kpho-and-ktvk-sets/#findComment-171942 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samantha 2895 Posted May 5, 2017 Author Share Posted May 5, 2017 The second phase of the site integration launched this week: a new website at azfamily.com. Both old sites are gone. Twitter is not integrated, but both accounts have had most of the same content anyway. The Calibri wordmark really needs to go, though. It just feels temporary. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15671-new-kpho-and-ktvk-sets/#findComment-172547 Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlnews2 591 Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 The second phase of the site integration launched this week: a new website at azfamily.com. Both old sites are gone. Twitter is not integrated, but both accounts have had most of the same content anyway. The Calibri wordmark really needs to go, though. It just feels temporary. Maybe this is the new Meredith website? Their current websites have been around for quite awhile and are due for an update. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15671-new-kpho-and-ktvk-sets/#findComment-172550 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samantha 2895 Posted May 5, 2017 Author Share Posted May 5, 2017 Maybe this is the new Meredith website? Their current websites have been around for quite awhile and are due for an update. We can only hope. I figured any consolidation would result in a new template. This site template appears to be on the same CMS, so rollout should be smooth. The mobile site is still a touch janky, but then again, the old site template came about when Android Eclair (2.0) was the new hotness. The original Motorola Droid was new on the market at that time. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15671-new-kpho-and-ktvk-sets/#findComment-172562 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRolyPoly 2423 Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 Have you noticed that most of the content in the new AZFamily website comes from 3TV? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15671-new-kpho-and-ktvk-sets/#findComment-172568 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganNewsGraphicsJunkie 915 Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 Now that I live in the Phoenix area, I do agree that 3TV seems to be covering more of the content online... And I've seen many times where they show the weather gfx from 3TV and slap a CBS 5 on there too... So confusing Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15671-new-kpho-and-ktvk-sets/#findComment-172569 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samantha 2895 Posted May 5, 2017 Author Share Posted May 5, 2017 Now that I live in the Phoenix area, I do agree that 3TV seems to be covering more of the content online... And I've seen many times where they show the weather gfx from 3TV and slap a CBS 5 on there too... So confusing The KPHO-KTVK merger is truly among the more bizarre. When it happened, I wanted a merger of equals (because that's what they are). That's pretty much what we've gotten. While KPHO is the network affiliate and its GM was retained (because it was the buyer), the licensee is KPHO Broadcasting Corporation, and the station had a stronger investigative profile, KTVK had the stronger social game (so the AZFamily brand was retained along with KTVK's accounts), the better and newer studio facilities (coincidentally, 5555 N. Seventh Avenue), and the better morning show (by a country mile). Heck, even KTVK's background graphic animation worked its way constantly onto KPHO's newscasts. Have you noticed that most of the content in the new AZFamily website comes from 3TV? Even prior to consolidation, the CBS 5 Originals section was on azfamily.com but KTVK content wasn't specially called out on the old KPHO site. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15671-new-kpho-and-ktvk-sets/#findComment-172572 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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