ColDayNews 438 Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 NBC has debuted new L3s for their Special Reports, replacing the 2007 Nightly News graphics. The graphics coincide with MSNBC's new graphics unveiling. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15702-nbc-news-special-report-new-l3s/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
24994J 5586 Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 They're very nice. The connection to the MSNBC look is very loose, though, more Nightly News, really. The Today show's graphics should be redone in these dimensions and this template. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15702-nbc-news-special-report-new-l3s/#findComment-174138 Share on other sites More sharing options...
A3N 1002 Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 I see the new L3's also came with grammatical errors... Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15702-nbc-news-special-report-new-l3s/#findComment-174157 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgie56 3307 Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Looks a lot like the Nightly graphics, IMO. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15702-nbc-news-special-report-new-l3s/#findComment-174163 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonDonP1 118 Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 I almost didn't know NBC updated its breaking news graphics. Cool. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15702-nbc-news-special-report-new-l3s/#findComment-174174 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jess 1115 Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Yeah. My first thought was "Nightly graphics" and not MSNBC... Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15702-nbc-news-special-report-new-l3s/#findComment-174185 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weeters 1931 Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 A much needed update if you ask me... There seemed to be several versions of the old graphics if you looked closely, probably dependent on which NBC control room was originating the SR. These should be easy to recreate between Chyron and VizRT. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15702-nbc-news-special-report-new-l3s/#findComment-174189 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainNews 287 Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 This is definitely a better improvement. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15702-nbc-news-special-report-new-l3s/#findComment-174204 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidwestTV 1232 Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 Thank goodness. This was 5 years overdo. Although it's a bit weird that the peacock is just floating and not in a box, especially with the live bug above it. Regardless, it's a great improvement. Maybe they'll update the special report open next. How long has that thing been around? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15702-nbc-news-special-report-new-l3s/#findComment-174221 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainNews 287 Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 Thank goodness. This was 5 years overdo. Although it's a bit weird that the peacock is just floating and not in a box, especially with the live bug above it. Regardless, it's a great improvement. Maybe they'll update the special report open next. How long has that thing been around? Since 2009... That's 8 years expired Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15702-nbc-news-special-report-new-l3s/#findComment-174265 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TennTV1983 804 Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 Since 2009... That's 8 years expired And during that span, Nightly News has had 3-4 graphical changes. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15702-nbc-news-special-report-new-l3s/#findComment-174267 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonDonP1 118 Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 Thank goodness. This was 5 years overdo. Although it's a bit weird that the peacock is just floating and not in a box, especially with the live bug above it. Regardless, it's a great improvement. Maybe they'll update the special report open next. How long has that thing been around? And probably replace the original 1985 recording of the John Williams-composed Meet the Press/breaking news theme music "The Pulse of Events" with a 2012 recording the next time news breaks; the 2012 recording is used on Meet the Press. Update: the 1985 Meet the Press/breaking news theme music remains intact. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15702-nbc-news-special-report-new-l3s/#findComment-174282 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkolsen 1684 Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 A much needed update if you ask me... There seemed to be several versions of the old graphics if you looked closely, probably dependent on which NBC control room was originating the SR. These should be easy to recreate between Chyron and VizRT. The update looks good. This plays into what we were talking about in the shoutbox. There seems to be a version for when it originates on NBC and MSNBC. I know that with the last graphics update on MSNBC it appeared they were still using a combo of Viz and Chyron (based on on graphics producers IG story). I almost expect with MSNBC's graphics refresh they'd ditch the chyrons. Side Note: Has there ever been a three network special report amongst NBC, MSNBC and CNBC? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15702-nbc-news-special-report-new-l3s/#findComment-174289 Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlnews2 591 Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 The update looks good. Side Note: Has there ever been a three network special report amongst NBC, MSNBC and CNBC? I think during 9/11 coverage NBC and MSNBC simulcast at some point. Not sure about CNBC Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15702-nbc-news-special-report-new-l3s/#findComment-174300 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonDonP1 118 Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 Well, my friends, NBC updated its breaking news opening and closing graphics, including what I call the red-feathered breaking news peacock. Here's the screencap: Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15702-nbc-news-special-report-new-l3s/#findComment-174503 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainNews 287 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 New NBC Special report intro! ITS BEAUTIFUL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSztzd0GLAU Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15702-nbc-news-special-report-new-l3s/#findComment-174542 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spring Rubber 705 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 New NBC Special report intro! ITS BEAUTIFUL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSztzd0GLAU Wow, nice. I like it. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15702-nbc-news-special-report-new-l3s/#findComment-174548 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainNews 287 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 Although, I must say. The countdown is too similar to ABC. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15702-nbc-news-special-report-new-l3s/#findComment-174549 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkolsen 1684 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 Although, I must say. The countdown is too similar to ABC. True but remember the countdown shouldn't get on air. Ideally the local station should time it right to cut right as the chimes start. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15702-nbc-news-special-report-new-l3s/#findComment-174552 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleSeven 1956 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 Don't like how those NBC Chimes (specifically the 1st & 2nd) are edited like that, like its rushed. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15702-nbc-news-special-report-new-l3s/#findComment-174553 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jess 1115 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 Update: the 1985 Meet the Press/breaking news theme music remains intact. As well it should. It's the best news theme in use on any American network period. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15702-nbc-news-special-report-new-l3s/#findComment-174556 Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Block 1566 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 As well it should. It's the best news theme in use on any American network period. It's quite amazing how much ABC and CBS have diluted their classic themes. Now that I've had a few months to sit with it, I'm pretty surprised CBS ditched their old music entirely without trying to update it or anything. The new music is fine, but it doesn't feel like CBS, and while their special report music isn't bad, it isn't anything that sticks out like this cut of the Mission. When you hear this cut of the Mission and see "Special Report," you know something big is happening. CNN had the same thing going with this classic open, but sadly they've diluted this to just be a stinger in any given show. I'm not one to say that any news music from the 80s is automatically better, but this piece below really is an icon. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15702-nbc-news-special-report-new-l3s/#findComment-174570 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eat News 4745 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 Although, I must say. The countdown is too similar to ABC. As it should be... A proper countdown should also have the numbers 10,9,8,7,6,5,4,3,2 and 1. Note countdowns from Mexico and parts of the Azors do not use number 7. Numbers should always "count down" and not "up". such as 7,6,5...(except Mexico and parts of the Azors) Countdowns should use the common numbers of the world and NOT metric numbers. Making countdowns can be fun , and Collecting countdowns can also be fun. I remember as a young chap Father and I used to make countdowns in the woods and lug them home each winter. Enjoy this generic KBEX countdown. It's my favorite! Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15702-nbc-news-special-report-new-l3s/#findComment-174572 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfomspphl 491 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 Don't like how those NBC Chimes (specifically the 1st & 2nd) are edited like that, like its rushed. I remember that quicker beat between the first and second in some promos way, way back when, so it might just be a direct rip of that. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15702-nbc-news-special-report-new-l3s/#findComment-174577 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Journalist 894 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 Although, I must say. The countdown is too similar to ABC. Because they are using the same font? I'll have to admit though, this is not the first time NBC and ABC used the same base typeface. Both networks once used DIN FF in the late 2000s and during the 2008 election. Anyways, appearing from the animation it looks like they chopped off a few seconds of the countdown in order to align themselves with the latest television automation and the countdowns of their competitors ABC and CBS. After inspecting the animation from various videos my rough guess is that it probably starts at 5 or 6 seconds in. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15702-nbc-news-special-report-new-l3s/#findComment-174581 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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