TheMassMediaGeek 98 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 This will be the thread for the 2017-2018 Nielsen DMA rankings which will come out in a month or so since it is getting close to the fall tv season. I just wanted to get this thread going before the rankings are released. What markets do you guys think may change spots this year? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15861-2017-2018-dma-rankings-for-real-this-time/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleSeven 1955 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Can we just wait (and take this post down) until the actual rankings come out, instead making a "placeholder" thread? It's pretty wasteful to post it when you don't have the link to the rankings. Someone did this last year. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15861-2017-2018-dma-rankings-for-real-this-time/#findComment-180780 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MXSans2 64 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Well...how about we can use this thread to talk about what might change in the rankings. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15861-2017-2018-dma-rankings-for-real-this-time/#findComment-180781 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMassMediaGeek 98 Posted August 11, 2017 Author Share Posted August 11, 2017 Mardek1995 did the thread for the DMA rankings for last year before those rankings were out. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15861-2017-2018-dma-rankings-for-real-this-time/#findComment-180785 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother 83 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 It's like what Dean Wormer said in Animal House: "Acting like mardek1995 is no way to go through life, son." Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15861-2017-2018-dma-rankings-for-real-this-time/#findComment-180794 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Muck 4374 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 It's like what Dean Wormer said in Animal House: "Acting like mardek1995 is no way to go through life, son." Zero. Point. ZERO! Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15861-2017-2018-dma-rankings-for-real-this-time/#findComment-180802 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColumbusNewsFan 217 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 I'm calling it now, Columbus stays at #32 And Cincinnati and Cleveland drops at least 1 spot each. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15861-2017-2018-dma-rankings-for-real-this-time/#findComment-180814 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darius22 122 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 We are at the bottom of the top 20. maybe if KXTV was watchable it would be higher. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15861-2017-2018-dma-rankings-for-real-this-time/#findComment-180816 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Former Member 207 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 We are at the bottom of the top 20. maybe if KXTV was watchable it would be higher. It doesn't work like that...market size is determined by the number of households in any given area. Market ranking doesn't change due to one station under-performing in the ratings Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15861-2017-2018-dma-rankings-for-real-this-time/#findComment-180826 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mre29 1522 Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 Could someone please move this thread to the Speculatron? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15861-2017-2018-dma-rankings-for-real-this-time/#findComment-180834 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darius22 122 Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 It doesn't work like that...market size is determined by the number of households in any given area. Market ranking doesn't change due to one station under-performing in the ratings oh, my bad. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15861-2017-2018-dma-rankings-for-real-this-time/#findComment-180838 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conrad 113 Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 Could someone please move this thread to the Speculatron? I currently don't have access to the Breakroom (including the Speculatron), but did someone think the unwatchability of the KXTV of today (who is a social media disaster fest, like the WTSP of today) has made some people destroy their TVs? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15861-2017-2018-dma-rankings-for-real-this-time/#findComment-180867 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megatron81 258 Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 I know West Michigan is DMA 44 surprise West Michigan has been Top 50 for decades feels more like a top 60 or 70 DMA for West Michigan. Don't know if West Michigan will lose a few spots or stays the same at 44 DMA. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15861-2017-2018-dma-rankings-for-real-this-time/#findComment-180894 Share on other sites More sharing options...
almostlive 4 Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 Did Nielsen ever release the 2017-18 DMA rankings? If so, I sure can't find them. Historically, they're always out by now. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15861-2017-2018-dma-rankings-for-real-this-time/#findComment-183235 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowardSalwasser 28 Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Did Nielsen ever release the 2017-18 DMA rankings? If so, I sure can't find them. Historically, they're always out by now. Maybe next week? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15861-2017-2018-dma-rankings-for-real-this-time/#findComment-183251 Share on other sites More sharing options...
compubit 673 Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 I know West Michigan is DMA 44 surprise West Michigan has been Top 50 for decades feels more like a top 60 or 70 DMA for West Michigan. Don't know if West Michigan will lose a few spots or stays the same at 44 DMA. The "problem" with DMA 44 is that there's no one "center" - spread out covering Kalamazoo, Battle Creek, Grand Rapids, Muskegon & the Lake Shore. For the longest while (like other "split" city markets), if you were in Kalamazoo, you watched WKZO; Battle Creek, WUHQ (sort of...), Grand Rapids (WOTV & WZZM). Being a "traditional" area, you watched what your parents watched. My grandparents used to live in North Muskegon, and cable there in the 70s carried WZZM (2), WKZO (3), WSNS (4), WKBD (5), WUHQ (6), WPBN (7), WOTV (8), WWTV (9), WGN (10), WGVC (11) and one other non-network station from Chicago (66?) on 12; 13 was community bulletin board, since the WZZM signal was Muskegon side of Grand Rapids and you had cable leakage. Up the road in Whitehall, cable lost the Chicago stations and WUHQ, but added the big WTMJ, WITI, WMVT, WISN and WVTV from Milwaukee. Ludington (further up the coast) added Green Bay stations. Grand Haven and south added WTTW into the mix. I always loved the Muskegon Chronicle's TV listings (mid 70s): 2, 3, 9, 12 - CBS 4, 5, 7, 8 - NBC 6, 11, 13, 41 - ABC 9, 44, 50, 66(?) - IND 10, 11, 35 - PBS After a while networks changed affiliations (Green Bay & Milwaukee), WZZM claimed "ABC Exclusivity" in the northern half of the market, the Chicago stations went Subscription, then Spanish, cable channels came into being, and all you were left with locally was WWMT, WOOD, WZZM, WXMI, WGVU and WGN (the over the air version, not the cable version). Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15861-2017-2018-dma-rankings-for-real-this-time/#findComment-183256 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRolyPoly 2416 Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 The "problem" with DMA 44 is that there's no one "center" - spread out covering Kalamazoo, Battle Creek, Grand Rapids, Muskegon & the Lake Shore. For the longest while (like other "split" city markets), if you were in Kalamazoo, you watched WKZO; Battle Creek, WUHQ (sort of...), Grand Rapids (WOTV & WZZM). Being a "traditional" area, you watched what your parents watched. My grandparents used to live in North Muskegon, and cable there in the 70s carried WZZM (2), WKZO (3), WSNS (4), WKBD (5), WUHQ (6), WPBN (7), WOTV (8), WWTV (9), WGN (10), WGVC (11) and one other non-network station from Chicago (66?) on 12; 13 was community bulletin board, since the WZZM signal was Muskegon side of Grand Rapids and you had cable leakage. Up the road in Whitehall, cable lost the Chicago stations and WUHQ, but added the big WTMJ, WITI, WMVT, WISN and WVTV from Milwaukee. Ludington (further up the coast) added Green Bay stations. Grand Haven and south added WTTW into the mix. I always loved the Muskegon Chronicle's TV listings (mid 70s): 2, 3, 9, 12 - CBS 4, 5, 7, 8 - NBC 6, 11, 13, 41 - ABC 9, 44, 50, 66(?) - IND 10, 11, 35 - PBS After a while networks changed affiliations (Green Bay & Milwaukee), WZZM claimed "ABC Exclusivity" in the northern half of the market, the Chicago stations went Subscription, then Spanish, cable channels came into being, and all you were left with locally was WWMT, WOOD, WZZM, WXMI, WGVU and WGN (the over the air version, not the cable version). West Michigan always had some sort of a split market. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15861-2017-2018-dma-rankings-for-real-this-time/#findComment-183265 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PelicanGuy 117 Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 It's gonna be very close, but I feel New Orleans will get back into the top 50 (No. 51 now). Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15861-2017-2018-dma-rankings-for-real-this-time/#findComment-183279 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TennTV1983 804 Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 It's gonna be very close, but I feel New Orleans will get back into the top 50 (No. 51 now). I thought New Orleans was already back in the top 50 as of last year. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15861-2017-2018-dma-rankings-for-real-this-time/#findComment-183281 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRolyPoly 2416 Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 I thought New Orleans was already back in the top 50 as of last year. Yes... New Orleans was at #50 in the Top 50. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15861-2017-2018-dma-rankings-for-real-this-time/#findComment-183310 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megatron81 258 Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 The "problem" with DMA 44 is that there's no one "center" - spread out covering Kalamazoo, Battle Creek, Grand Rapids, Muskegon & the Lake Shore. For the longest while (like other "split" city markets), if you were in Kalamazoo, you watched WKZO; Battle Creek, WUHQ (sort of...), Grand Rapids (WOTV & WZZM). Being a "traditional" area, you watched what your parents watched. My grandparents used to live in North Muskegon, and cable there in the 70s carried WZZM (2), WKZO (3), WSNS (4), WKBD (5), WUHQ (6), WPBN (7), WOTV (8), WWTV (9), WGN (10), WGVC (11) and one other non-network station from Chicago (66?) on 12; 13 was community bulletin board, since the WZZM signal was Muskegon side of Grand Rapids and you had cable leakage. Up the road in Whitehall, cable lost the Chicago stations and WUHQ, but added the big WTMJ, WITI, WMVT, WISN and WVTV from Milwaukee. Ludington (further up the coast) added Green Bay stations. Grand Haven and south added WTTW into the mix. I always loved the Muskegon Chronicle's TV listings (mid 70s): 2, 3, 9, 12 - CBS 4, 5, 7, 8 - NBC 6, 11, 13, 41 - ABC 9, 44, 50, 66(?) - IND 10, 11, 35 - PBS After a while networks changed affiliations (Green Bay & Milwaukee), WZZM claimed "ABC Exclusivity" in the northern half of the market, the Chicago stations went Subscription, then Spanish, cable channels came into being, and all you were left with locally was WWMT, WOOD, WZZM, WXMI, WGVU and WGN (the over the air version, not the cable version). When I had Adelphia Cable in the late 80's early 90's they had WNDU NBC Channel 9 out of South Bend, WSBT CBS channel 10 South Bend, WSYM Fox47 channel 6 WXMI Fox17 was Channel 7, WWOR Channel 11 did change in fall of 94 to channel 27 before that was gone on New Years Eve. Only local channel Adelphia Cable didn't have was WZZM Comcast changed it in 2006 and added WZZM read that online. Cablevision now Charter Spectrum had WKBD was taken off sometime in the early 90's guessing fall of 93 not sure on that, Chi PBS station Charter took that off 10 years ago. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15861-2017-2018-dma-rankings-for-real-this-time/#findComment-183379 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowardSalwasser 28 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 http://www.nielsen.com/us/en/insights/news/2017/nielsen-estimates-119-6-million-us-tv-homes-2017-2018-tv-season.html Still no word on the DMA rankings. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15861-2017-2018-dma-rankings-for-real-this-time/#findComment-183763 Share on other sites More sharing options...
almostlive 4 Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 I'm starting to wonder if they are ever going to release revised DMAs. They are two weeks behind schedule (based on recent years). Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15861-2017-2018-dma-rankings-for-real-this-time/#findComment-183975 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samantha 2895 Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 I'm starting to wonder if they are ever going to release revised DMAs. They are two weeks behind schedule (based on recent years). Irma affected their data processing, so it's conceivable that there might have been a delay in their release. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15861-2017-2018-dma-rankings-for-real-this-time/#findComment-183976 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenShine9 1513 Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 I believe they were released September 24 last year. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15861-2017-2018-dma-rankings-for-real-this-time/#findComment-183981 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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