Retransmission Consent squabbles

[MD TV 287]

Without warning, Disney-owned channels were pulled from Dish/Sling in the middle of the night:

 

 

Edited October 1, 2022 by MD TV

[dialhoang 8]

6 hours ago, MD TV said:

Without warning, Disney-owned channels were pulled from Dish/Sling in the middle of the night:

 

 

This is a big one... not the least because it's the largest provider that I've seen drop ESPN. This weekend is going to be fun...

Morgan Wick, who writes about sports media on Twitter and a blog, has a Twitter thread about this dispute: 

I think his last tweet hits the mark here:
 

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I suspect the next few days are going to be huge in terms of determining how soon (if ever) ESPN goes fully direct to consumer.

 

[Newsjunkie24 506]

I think this will be one to watch. Dish claims that Disney wants a billion dollar increase, but it's been revealed that ESPN is a must-have channel and is one of the few channels remaining that keeps people from cutting the cord. There's a lot of backlash from Dish on social media. Will Dish cave or will this dispute last for months as Dish tries to keep customer's bills low? 

[appleachian 135]

I've been a Dish subscriber for many years but I think I'm about done.  IMO Dish is playing with fire here and getting a lot of customers that otherwise may have just stayed customers out of momentum to explore streaming services.

[tyrannical bastard 4084]

There should be some degree of transparency when these contracts are due to expire, and ample warning if an agreement has not been reached yet.

[Newsjunkie24 506]

15 minutes ago, tyrannical bastard said:

There should be some degree of transparency when these contracts are due to expire, and ample warning if an agreement has not been reached yet.

 

Yeah, there was no warning whatsoever in the final hours, where as other disputes it's public knowledge in the days leading up.

[tyrannical bastard 4084]

The DOJ, and even the FCC should force companies like Dish to some form of consent degree, where notification is required.  FCC would be involved in the case of broadcast stations, especially since ABC still has their O&Os.

 

Are ABC affiliates affected like they were on YouTubeTV back in December?

[Yankees4life 565]

Cheap Charlie strikes again

[appleachian 135]

22 minutes ago, tyrannical bastard said:

The DOJ, and even the FCC should force companies like Dish to some form of consent degree, where notification is required.  FCC would be involved in the case of broadcast stations, especially since ABC still has their O&Os.

 

Are ABC affiliates affected like they were on YouTubeTV back in December?

Only the eight O&O markets are affected as far as ABC. 

[AmericanErrorist 161]

2 hours ago, appleachian said:

Only the eight O&O markets are affected as far as ABC. 

 

The Rams-49ers Monday Night Football game will air tomorrow on KABC and KGO, two of the stations that are part of this.

 

Edited October 2, 2022 by AmericanErrorist

[appleachian 135]

The Disney channels are back on Dish.   That was a very short lived dispute by Dish standards. 

[Megatron81 289]

Dish is the worse when it comes with getting deals done I wouldn't ever go with them for that reason as I don't think they try to get deals done in my opinion. Disney doesn't need Dish as Dish needs Disney more why it didn't last that long as I thought they would get a deal done. Dish doesn't like sports fans either. 

[Adam MadMan 285]

Broadcasting + Cable just posted an interesting guest article that basically says what most of us are thinking: the retransmission consent law is in desperate need of a reform.

[nathannah 2537]

Especially after Spectrum had to bump their Broadcast fee $4...it's time for reform. There's no justification for a MyNetworkTV affiliate running on autopilot to rate the same cost as an NBC station.

[Newsjunkie24 506]

I wonder if it could be done right now with lobbying and the fact that broadcasters love the retrans system.

[CircleSeven 1963]

New retrans scuffle. Nexstar & Verizon Fios.

 

Blackouts could happen on Friday.

 

Edited October 12, 2022 by CircleSeven

[NowBergen 717]

2 hours ago, CircleSeven said:

New retrans scuffle. Nexstar & Verizon Fios.

 

Blackouts could happen on Friday.

 

In Rhode Island that would include CBS, FOX and the CW. No college football on Saturday, no NFL including he home team Patriots on Sundays during the afternoon.  

[MD TV 287]

A biggie would be Buffalo and Rochester not being able to watch Bills-Chiefs.

 

Meanwhile, Fox and Altice have something. That includes a heavy presence in the NYC area:

 

 

[CircleSeven 1963]

.......And another one. Fox & Altice.

 

Networks could go dark by Midnight tonight.

[NowBergen 717]

As an Optimum customer, I can watch Fox entertainment shows on Hulu.  No biggie.  The only issue is Sunday NFL - typically the Giants, this week the Jets and the WS should the Yankees make it.  

[nathannah 2537]

12 minutes ago, NowBergen said:

As an Optimum customer, I can watch Fox entertainment shows on Hulu.  No biggie.  The only issue is Sunday NFL - typically the Giants, this week the Jets and the WS should the Yankees make it.  

I am curious to see how a subscriber to both Optimum and NFL+ will be affected if this happens as they do provide in-market streaming.

Edited October 14, 2022 by mrschimpf

[NowBergen 717]

8 minutes ago, mrschimpf said:

I am curious to see how a subscriber to both Optimum and NFL+ will be affected if this happens as they do provide in-market streaming.

Since NFL+ as well as Sunday Ticket are not available on Optimum I suspect there is no impact.  

[nathannah 2537]

2 hours ago, NowBergen said:

Since NFL+ as well as Sunday Ticket are not available on Optimum I suspect there is no impact.  

Fox has been pretty brutal in past disputes though in cutting off Hulu and FoxNow to customers of a disputed provider (and they forced a TNF game off NFLN because of a Dish dispute), which is why I'd like to know, especially if those customers use the 7-day free trial to round it, if they force the league to pull that offer and make it TV/ST-exclusive. At least with the other companies you have a streaming alternative, but FoxNow is it for them.

[Newsjunkie24 506]

41 minutes ago, mrschimpf said:

Fox has been pretty brutal in past disputes though in cutting off Hulu and FoxNow to customers of a disputed provider (and they forced a TNF game off NFLN because of a Dish dispute), which is why I'd like to know, especially if those customers use the 7-day free trial to round it, if they force the league to pull that offer and make it TV/ST-exclusive. At least with the other companies you have a streaming alternative, but FoxNow is it for them.

 

I think as streaming becomes more prevalent, the tactic of pulling content to certain providers due to disputes will happen less and less. I remember when Viacom did it to everybody during the DirecTV dispute of 2012 and only stopped when Jon Stewart criticized them.

 

The time in 2019 when FOX blacked out TNF on NFLN because of the Dish dispute led to them resolving rather quickly. 

[CircleSeven 1963]

Fox reached a last-minute deal with Altice to avoid a blackout.

 

However, Nexstar has yanked its signals off of Fios.