tyrannical bastard 3933 Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Well, to bring this thread up to speed, Bally has since breached one of their loan covenants and missed a payment to the Arizona Diamondbacks. They have a grace period of until March 17th to pay the Diamondbacks. Bankruptcy could be coming by then, finally. https://nypost.com/2023/03/12/mlb-to-stream-games-for-free-amid-looming-diamond-sports-bankruptcy-sources/ A side effect of what could be coming? MLB could be offering free streaming to customers of the affected teams. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/17093-the-fanduel-sports-network-thread/page/13/#findComment-284279 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodfreyGR 650 Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 It's Official. Bally's Is Bankrupt. https://cordcuttersnews.com/bally-sports-just-declared-bankruptcy-the-death-of-rsns/ https://awfulannouncing.com/sinclair/diamond-sports-group-bally-sports-bankruptcy-chapter-11.html 1 Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/17093-the-fanduel-sports-network-thread/page/13/#findComment-284344 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoadStar 364 Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 11 hours ago, GodfreyGR said: It's Official. Bally's Is Bankrupt. To be clear, Bally's Corporation is not bankrupt. Diamond Sports is bankrupt. They were just a licensee of the Bally brand name. I wouldn't be surprised if Bally wanted to revoke that license at some point. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/17093-the-fanduel-sports-network-thread/page/13/#findComment-284355 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodfreyGR 650 Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 7 hours ago, LoadStar said: To be clear, Bally's Corporation is not bankrupt. Diamond Sports is bankrupt. They were just a licensee of the Bally brand name. With respect, based off of the recent posts of the RSN, that was implied. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/17093-the-fanduel-sports-network-thread/page/13/#findComment-284367 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nathannah 2402 Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 The Texas Rangers are proceeding to walk away from Bally after the bankruptcy. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/17093-the-fanduel-sports-network-thread/page/13/#findComment-284371 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycnewsjunkie 1439 Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 Meanwhile, the Utah Jazz are looking at providing a hybrid linear/DTC offering next season. https://awfulannouncing.com/nba/utah-jazz-looking-at-hybrid-linear-direct-to-consumer-broadcast-model-for-2023-24-season-and-beyond.html Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/17093-the-fanduel-sports-network-thread/page/13/#findComment-284374 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTT 111 Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 What happened to the local sports business? Why would Sinclair buy the networks from Disney if they were going to be bankrupt? On the national level, MLB, NHL, and the NBA are making so much money from their TV deals. Why on the local level the networks are not? 1 Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/17093-the-fanduel-sports-network-thread/page/13/#findComment-284380 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyrannical bastard 3933 Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 39 minutes ago, JTT said: What happened to the local sports business? Why would Sinclair buy the networks from Disney if they were going to be bankrupt? On the national level, MLB, NHL, and the NBA are making so much money from their TV deals. Why on the local level the networks are not? Because the cord-cutting and reliance on a dwindling pool of willing subscribers to pay a "regional sports fee" on top of an already inflated bill is the final straw. National networks can pass this off with their broad reach, and their hands in the viewer's pocketbooks are much less apparent than the RSN's have ever been. Bottom line, sports has gotten too expensive. Viewers are tired of paying for it through high pay TV bills. Providers don't want to drive up the cost of their service too much by agreeing what the RSN's want to charge (which is the high price the leagues pass on to the RSNs). And seeing what it really costs, no one wants to pay $25 a month to watch their team on an RSN app. Covid and cord-cutting exacerbated this trend. Sinclair took the bait and paid dearly for it, especially when they lost most of the providers that carried it. 3 Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/17093-the-fanduel-sports-network-thread/page/13/#findComment-284381 Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.L. Hughes 881 Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 (edited) 41 minutes ago, tyrannical bastard said: Because the cord-cutting and reliance on a dwindling pool of willing subscribers to pay a "regional sports fee" on top of an already inflated bill is the final straw. National networks can pass this off with their broad reach, and their hands in the viewer's pocketbooks are much less apparent than the RSN's have ever been. Bottom line, sports has gotten too expensive. Viewers are tired of paying for it through high pay TV bills. Providers don't want to drive up the cost of their service too much by agreeing what the RSN's want to charge (which is the high price the leagues pass on to the RSNs). And seeing what it really costs, no one wants to pay $25 a month to watch their team on an RSN app. Covid and cord-cutting exacerbated this trend. Sinclair took the bait and paid dearly for it, especially when they lost most of the providers that carried it. I’m sure most of the providers they lost were the vMVPDs, to where DirecTV Stream was the only one that carried each of the 19 Bally Sports networks until FuboTV re-added them in January. The irony is, it wasn’t always this way. Many of the RSNs that exist today once were distributed as premium channels that customers had to add onto their cable package (a la HBO and Showtime). The question is how much cost savings would customers have now, if RSNs didn’t transition to basic cable packages, and would RSNs still being made available a la carte offset the cost of carrying other channels that command higher subscriber fees (ESPN, TNT, Disney Channel, etc.)? The 1992 Cable Act’s retrans provisions only created more stress on RSNs in the past decade or so, by helping to drive pay TV prices to be able to carry other channels to progressively higher rates that led to the dramatic increase in cord-cutting… and that’s on top of service and equipment fees that add to the cost of subscribing to conventional pay TV providers. (National sports networks also contribute to the high cost, because of both retrans compensation and sports rights fees, if ESPN’s $5+/subscriber fee is any indication.) Edited March 16, 2023 by T.L. Hughes 2 Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/17093-the-fanduel-sports-network-thread/page/13/#findComment-284383 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyrannical bastard 3933 Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 Now, MLB is trying to force Bally to pay up for the Cleveland Guardians (Indians) and the Minnesota Twins. They skipped these payments, and if if they don'r pay up, they could seize the rights from Bally. https://theathletic.com/4385805/2023/04/05/mlb-diamond-sports-bankruptcy-twins-guardians/ Since they-re post bankruptcy filing, does this have any chance of actually happening? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/17093-the-fanduel-sports-network-thread/page/13/#findComment-285226 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyrannical bastard 3933 Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 (edited) Gray snags the Phoenix Suns from Bally to broadcast on KTVK and Arizona's Family TV https://cordcuttersnews.com/bally-sports-loses-rights-to-phoenix-suns-nba-games-as-fans-can-now-watch-the-suns-for-free-on-broadcast-tv/ Edited April 28, 2023 by tyrannical bastard Revised link 4 Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/17093-the-fanduel-sports-network-thread/page/13/#findComment-285871 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgie56 3293 Posted May 2, 2023 Author Share Posted May 2, 2023 If no payment by Friday, the Reds will be the first to abandon Bally Sports. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/17093-the-fanduel-sports-network-thread/page/13/#findComment-285995 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manny NYC 31 Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 6 hours ago, Georgie56 said: If no payment by Friday, the Reds will be the first to abandon Bally Sports. Payment has been made 1 Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/17093-the-fanduel-sports-network-thread/page/13/#findComment-286012 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgie56 3293 Posted May 30, 2023 Author Share Posted May 30, 2023 First confirmed casualty: the Padres. 6 1 Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/17093-the-fanduel-sports-network-thread/page/13/#findComment-287024 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyrannical bastard 3933 Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 (edited) And now, it's come to this. Diamond has been ordered to cough up the rest of the money it owes to the affected baseball teams, or they must forfeit the rights to carry them. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/37776665/diamond-sports-group-ordered-fully-pay-twins-guardians-diamondbacks-rangers%3fplatform=amp So basically Diamond Sports is getting no relief whatsoever from the bankruptcy they filed? Ouch! Edited June 2, 2023 by tyrannical bastard Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/17093-the-fanduel-sports-network-thread/page/13/#findComment-287076 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmericanErrorist 148 Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 5 hours ago, tyrannical bastard said: And now, it's come to this. Diamond has been ordered to cough up the rest of the money it owes to the affected baseball teams, or they must forfeit the rights to carry them. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/37776665/diamond-sports-group-ordered-fully-pay-twins-guardians-diamondbacks-rangers%3fplatform=amp So basically Diamond Sports is getting no relief whatsoever from the bankruptcy they filed? Ouch! Only the Twins, Guardians, Diamondbacks, and Rangers are part of the ruling in the article. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/17093-the-fanduel-sports-network-thread/page/13/#findComment-287083 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dman748 1256 Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 16 hours ago, tyrannical bastard said: And now, it's come to this. Diamond has been ordered to cough up the rest of the money it owes to the affected baseball teams, or they must forfeit the rights to carry them. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/37776665/diamond-sports-group-ordered-fully-pay-twins-guardians-diamondbacks-rangers%3fplatform=amp So basically Diamond Sports is getting no relief whatsoever from the bankruptcy they filed? Ouch! And Judge Lopez has ordered Diamond to pay the affected teams in full within 5 days So buckle your seatbelts folks, things is about to get very interesting in a hurry. 4 Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/17093-the-fanduel-sports-network-thread/page/13/#findComment-287101 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mightynine 290 Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 Quote Reporting from The Athletic indicates that as part of the proceedings, MLB outside counsel forced DSG representatives to reveal that Diamond’s nascent streaming platform Bally Sports+ — which provides in-market streaming of games without the need for a pay-TV subscription for five MLB, 16 NBA, and 12 NHL teams — has just 203,000 subscribers. That number represents 55% of the company’s subscriber targets after its soft-launch in June 2022 and full launch in September. Despite these figures, Diamond CEO David Preschlack still believes that the service will quadruple its subscriber total between now and the end of this year to more than 800,000. He testified this week that he projects Bally Sports+ will have 10 million users by 2028. https://thestreamable.com/news/bankruptcy-reveals-bally-sports-plus-only-has-203k-subscribers-is-streamer-closer-to-closing-than-hitting-10m-goal Yikes. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/17093-the-fanduel-sports-network-thread/page/13/#findComment-287102 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nathannah 2402 Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 I get the feeling that the VPN routing traffic within team territories for MLB.tv is much more than the number of BS+ subscribers. I'm sure the numbers for Tennis Channel Plus are also miserably low and starving that sport for exposure they've been losing for over a decade. 5 Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/17093-the-fanduel-sports-network-thread/page/13/#findComment-287104 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgie56 3293 Posted June 5, 2023 Author Share Posted June 5, 2023 Alex Faust tweeted that he was released as the LA Kings’ pxp announcer, and that the team is looking for a new rightsholder for the 2023-24 season. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/17093-the-fanduel-sports-network-thread/page/13/#findComment-287169 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCB4TV 347 Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 Updates Diamond has paid the Rangers, who'll continue to air on Bally Sports Southwest They've also terminated Raycom, who was working with them on ACC games. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/17093-the-fanduel-sports-network-thread/page/13/#findComment-287600 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgie56 3293 Posted June 22, 2023 Author Share Posted June 22, 2023 BS Arizona wants to end things with the Diamondbacks. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/17093-the-fanduel-sports-network-thread/page/13/#findComment-287768 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD TV 253 Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 On 6/22/2023 at 7:25 PM, Georgie56 said: BS Arizona wants to end things with the Diamondbacks. Meanwhile, they're not getting the Suns back: 1 Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/17093-the-fanduel-sports-network-thread/page/13/#findComment-288232 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgie56 3293 Posted July 16, 2023 Author Share Posted July 16, 2023 Appears the D-backs are about to officially move off BS Arizona this upcoming week. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/17093-the-fanduel-sports-network-thread/page/13/#findComment-288268 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCB4TV 347 Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 Diamondbacks Announce New TV Partners After Bally Sports Cancels TV Contract Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/17093-the-fanduel-sports-network-thread/page/13/#findComment-288326 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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