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  1. This is a large rearchitecture. The reason it has taken this long is simply because of how comprehensive it is. Of the four O&O chains, CBS has the most problems ailing its. Most of the stations are ratings fixer-uppers and have spent two decades or more in such a condition. There was no news in Detroit. Post-Dunn and Friend, something radical needed to be done. And the investment in News and the fact that there is actual innovation and renewal in News are all to be hailed. If you watched the first night of the new Evening News look, you might have noticed the text elements listing places where CBS News has bureaus. There's London...Rome...Johannesburg...Atlanta...oh yeah, and Sacramento and Baltimore. News and Stations in a nutshell. There is a lot going on. A visual overhaul, the first top-to-bottom one at Stations in nearly a decade; a restructuring internally; the continued effects of the Paramount Global merger, etc.; the launch of news in Detroit; and the shift to a streaming-first or -co-first mentality at every outpost in Stations. This does not happen overnight. Why are we so excited? Because there is a sense of renewal at CBS that is long-deserved and needed. Because they are fixing, finally on a comprehensive level, a historic inequity in Detroit, and they are making the right moves in doing it. Because there is a pathbreaking branding approach. ABC has too many successful news franchises in its markets to do this. NBC has too many, and it also has Telemundo; it's hard to have that sort of fusion of national and local news when there are two separate networks (with separate teams) to feed and all of the NBC newsrooms it runs are bilingual. Fox fundamentally cannot do this without compromising and tainting its local news product to a significant portion of the audience.
    7 points
  2. Or “CBS (name of city/region)”. The way CBS is pushing this across the chain, I expect them to push the non-owned affiliates to go in the same direction, either as “CBS” or “CBS (city/region)”. It’s something that I’ve debated @channel2 on in the discord as she values the brand integrity of the affiliates and the legacy brands of the O&Os, which I totally get. At the same time, harmonization is not new, from the time ABC had their O&Os all adopt the same Circle 7 in 1962, to when NBC pushed the same news sets throughout their chain in the 1970s to when CBS had their affiliates use Rockwell as their CG typeface in the 1980s. The only difference here is the presumed excising of the channel number and retiring of call letters as brands in favor of a unified approach. It’s revolutionary in US broadcasting but is so commonplace elsewhere. Moreover, CBS has a clear and obvious brand issue with KDKA, WBZ, KPIX, WCCO and to a lesser extent KYW as stations that have to share a branding with their onetime radio sisters. It’s in theory not bad unless the radio station gets bad publicity a la Wendy Bell flaming out at KDKA 1020 and KDKA-TV has to issue statements that they had nothing to do with Wendy’s employment. It’s an awkward licensing agreement between Audacy, iHeart and Beasley Les Moonves made that never should have happened (but at the same time everyone would be grousing at KDKA 1020, the fabled “first radio station”, being forced to change their call sign. Look at the awkwardness of KOMO 1000 being forced to rename itself KNWN). Moreover, CBS going with a unified “CBS” branding solves issues with brand awareness that have dogged the network since 1994, especially in Detroit. It’s also why I see them pushing the renaming before “CBS News Detroit” launches, to help get the marketing campaign underway and help to better promote the news service. It also helps the O&O chain’s laggards—WFOR, KTVT, WBBM and WCBS—a chance to start anew, they literally have nothing to lose. The chain’s successful stations—WCCO, KCNC, WJZ, KDKA and to an extent WBZ—will handle it in a transitional way, but the viewers will adapt. I highly doubt anyone in Pittsburgh proper is going to be no longer watching KDKA simply because they no longer call themselves “KDKA-TV 2”. Thus, I expect the network to pressure the major chains—Gray, Nexstar, Cox, Sinclair, Tegna** and Scripps—to adopt these branding conventions on their CBS affiliates wholesale, which will set up an interesting confrontation between the groups and the network that @Weetershas been predicting on the discord for awhile. (“Why should we have to brand our stations as ‘CBS’ and act like the network owns us when we can fall back on NewsNation, the CW and Antenna?”) ** Fate of said company still TBD.
    6 points
  3. I feel a lot of NBC inspiration here (much how CBSTM seems an exact inspiration of CNN). It's a very clean and polished look with just enough flare that it gets your attention. Subtle and not in your face. If only ABC would get their act together and update WNT...
    5 points
  4. This new graphics package looks incredible and blow the last one out of the water; it's not even close. The video updates in the set took my breath away too; all of this make the program look much better. Well done to everyone involved.
    5 points
  5. That's really one of the only ways they are lol. They do well in the ratings, but other than that, there isn't all that much that's special about them.
    4 points
  6. It's tegna over tegna-ing. Giving every show a brand eventually disconnects the station from it. You can't expect viewers to remember unique names for multiple different times.
    3 points
  7. Big improvement! Love the return to it's roots theme, taking a great page from ABC! Hopefully the late era Rather theme makes a comeback one day. The L3's are horrendus but the dark theme for the video walls is great, especially considering how bright and washed out newscasts and daytime tv looks with HD these days.
    3 points
  8. I keep hoping that they decide to bring that back instead of the 87 version. It's got so much more energy.
    3 points
  9. There's a rumble in them there Rockies... https://www.tvtechnology.com/news/cbs-news-colorado-announces-new-community-journalism-initiative KCNC CBS News Colorado is: * Shifting to the community journalism model (as is being implemented in Detroit and hinted at in New York) * Adding a 9am and a 4pm news hour (the 9am is a half-hour on TV plus an extra streaming half-hour) * Starting September 12 https://www.cbsnews.com/colorado/news/cbs-news-colorado-announces-new-initiative-additional-newscasts/?fbclid=IwAR1fZUYQHbzc1nUCY5vuxQqHsJiPJmpCvUTeEAaDL8qg5mPbYRydlSgM2sk
    3 points
  10. David Muir ratings are nearly double or triple Norah’s ratings.
    3 points
  11. Next could be "What's The Deal With That?!"
    3 points
  12. Because this is WKYC we're talking about lol. Did you really expect anything else? Haha
    3 points
  13. I’m not a fan of the black and gold graphics but when it comes to ratings—compared to WCBS, KCBS, and WBBM—KDKA is special.
    3 points
  14. KDKA. Is. Not. Special. Whenever a new group-wide package debuts, they'll get the same thing as everyone else, and they'll be better off, for it. Besides, while I understand the civic pride, the black and gold look they have is downright unsightly for any coverage not pertaining to the Pens, Pirates, or Steelers.
    3 points
  15. Here is all of the screenshots I have of the new package.
    3 points
  16. It’s silly…just go back to “Channel 3 News.” One notable thing is Sara Shookman’s sharp decline in having any sort of presence here. As recently as 2018, she was the main anchor and now has been relegated to 7pm - and gets pushed out by Christi Paul and Carmen Blackwell.
    2 points
  17. Poor Nora ... Does she ever sleep? lol -- Matt
    2 points
  18. Just curious, in what ways could a network pressure its affiliates to that extent without completely alienating the station groups? Granted, the station groups need the networks more than the networks need them, but given that many CBS affiliates are part of duopolies (ex: KGMB, WTOL, KPHO), I’m not even sure CBS would want to go that far. That said, unified branding somewhat remedies the 1994 switch that still affects CBS and its stations today. As you said, it’s the norm in nearly every other country, and it makes sense in a world that prioritizes streaming. Nobody looks for “channel 2” on YouTube TV or online; they look for CBS.
    2 points
  19. 2 points
  20. Too bad the cbs theme is pretty vacant sounding compared to the other two. So boring sounding compared to the other two. The best version was the bombastic arrangement during the later Rather years, that was pretty pretty good. Same across the board, local TV is so homogenized-- more than ever.
    2 points
  21. Why can't it just be 3 News at 5:00, just like its 6pm news?
    2 points
  22. How the Overnight News looks with the new look Only bit of old branding is the end of hour copyright
    2 points
  23. So, the first TV listings of the new fall season are out, and there are a few notable changes on the WGN schedule. Despite the show wrapping production, I'm shocked that a rerun slate of Maury isn't included in the afternoon block. Instead, Lauren Lake's Paternity Court (yikes) slots in at 2pm. The biggest surprise, though, might come at 3pm, as Friends reruns return to weekday, daylight hours for the first time in forever. Personally, that programming decision feels like a placeholder move, but what do I know?
    2 points
  24. For one thing, hasn't NBC learned its lesson from the disaster that was the Jay Leno Show? And if NBC was to give up its 10pm/9pm central time slot: NBC Nightly News at 10pm/9pm and local newscast at the 10:30pm/9:30pm. Giving viewers a head start on a good night's sleep. Couldn't hurt to try something bold and do something never done before.
    2 points
  25. The original and first-ever CBS Evening News theme from 1987...WELCOME BACK BUDDY! Good to hear that fanfare again. Slight remixed and throwing in the 5-note CBS mnemonic at the end was a nice touch.
    2 points
  26. Also what I honestly bet they go with. “CBS” for every non-news show, network or otherwise. Maybe the legacy calls for the cities that look like they’re going to keep that branding element, but for most of them, just “CBS”.
    2 points
  27. If any network may want to be willing to go for a prime time newscast, I think it would be CBS since they are usually a distant third in ratings in the early evenings - maybe a 10 pm (or 9 pm CT) national news there (with the 6:30/5:30 pm timeslot yielded to an hour-long local newscast) would be able to break from the shadow of NBC Nightly News and World News Tonight.
    2 points
  28. There was a time several years ago when NBC O&Os branded themselves as “NBC” during non-news and non-network hours.
    2 points
  29. Here's the full thing:
    2 points
  30. I want a black and gold version of this for KDKA-TV please. Please CBS.
    2 points
  31. Color me impressed. Well done, CBS News.
    2 points
  32. Some other pictures from them Also it's confirmed the new music remix is by AntFood, the same people who designed the new CBS Mnemonic. No more Man Made Music.
    2 points
  33. Agreed on all points. Considering the latest figures on measurements of who gets their TV via cable or satellite and who by Internet streaming, it's about even. It's probably not worth bothering with for anchors to say "... and also streaming on CBS News (market location) Aren't the KYW and KPIX "Eyewitness News" brandings half-century-old holdovers from their Westinghouse ownership? I'm in California so I am familiar with the latter, and I'm amazed that it keeps its old Westinghouse "5" logo. KPIX has just made a seismic anchor shift, by they way, and local media pundits say it's for the better. Agreed about KCBS and KCAL, and maybe it's not so much bungled as simply shrunk. The staff is a skeleton crew. I always preface my comments here with "I'm just a viewer and not in the biz" but I could not agree more about the idea that local branding is still important, and , at least, a channel number to connect people to their local station, a button to put a finger on the remote. Or maybe that's archaic in the era of YouTube TV and Hulu, where you just choose the show you want.
    1 point
  34. And Peacock WON'T be successful because of this...
    1 point
  35. I don't have a problem with them moving Jay and Betsy up an hour to 4pm. They're a really good team, and they'd be foolish to break them up. Still think the names of the newscasts are stupid. 3News at 4 & 5 are completely axceptable. But again, this is WKYC we're talking about lol.
    1 point
  36. Yeah, I wasn’t being snarky. Apologies if it came off that way. I was trying to prove that things like that need not be overlooked. Why complicate branding outside of a newscast when you can just say “CBS.”
    1 point
  37. 1 point
  38. This is definitely spot on. It's not going to necessarily boost their ratings, but to bring back the fanfare (as ABC did during pre-vax COVID and as NBC will always have even after John Williams is gone) is golden. Then by your logic, CBS should do one for KTVT with the red and star accents...
    1 point
  39. Wow! I think CBS has created some of the best network news graphics they have ever done. As for the music, it brings back the classic 1987 CBS Evening News theme signature with new orchestrations.
    1 point
  40. Im glad she getting out of that dump of WCBS there a lost station.
    1 point
  41. Only speculation, but here's what I think happened. We all know the ND recently departed, she was the one that brought Michaela on and revamped the format. With the ND gone, I'm sure there will be plans to blow up the GDLA format yet again. I assume Michaela didn't fit in with those plans so she most likely was let out of her contract early. There was a lot of writing on the wall. Michaela initially solo anchored the show from 7-10am with Tony and Araksya appearing a few times an hour with headlines and other stories. Now all three start off the show at the desk. Brooke Thomas appears to be a rising star at KTTV, so I'm sure she will have a greater role if a revamped GDLA comes to frution. KTLA just continues to sit and dominate. Can't wait to see what KCAL does when their show launches next month. Haven't seen any promos or offical announcemnts for that show just yet.
    1 point
  42. True, most networks in foreign countries (like Canada) have a six and ten newscast. Always found it weird why the US networks never catched on, likely because of our "local first" vision. BBC airs newscasts at 6 and 10 (formally nine when ITV still had "News at Ten" and so does ITV. Always also found it weird why for like at 6/5 in the US, local newscast came first then national while internationally (UK especially) it is the opposite.
    1 point
  43. False. WRAZ simulcasts with WRAL at 4pm. Once again, simulcasting exists in the year 2022. The concept of 2 stations running the same newscast has been in place for at least 20 years. There is no written or unwritten rule that forbids something from happening just because some people don’t like it. There will be no mass affiliation changes if both NBC and Fox stations run 10pm news. There will be no volcanic eruptions, earthquakes, or tsunamis as a result of NBC and Fox stations running 10pm news. The state of Hawaii has not sunk into the Pacific Ocean just because KGMB/KHNL already simulcast their late news. Stations are not going to blow up their affiliation agreements just because some of us don’t like the idea of a 10pm simulcast.
    1 point
  44. The news desk is sacred, and the main anchors should be chained to it. Having a "personal life" is not allowed.
    1 point
  45. It was already added before you posted this. Simulcasting Is a terrible idea for the viewer and shows how greedy you are as a company. Also, I would ask WBRE/WYOU, WJXX/WTLV, WICU/WSEE, and WJAX/WFOX how simulcasting "helps" their ratings. It doesn't. Fox would still be upset if their newscast is simulcast with an NBC Station. Count on it.
    1 point
  46. Lampley and Walker were married to other people and had an affair, divorced their spouses and married while at KCBS. It was a noticeable scandal on air. No comparison. L.A.'S MOST VISIBLE Office Romance : When TV news co-anchors Jim Lampley and Bree Walker became a team off the air as well as on, tongues started wagging. What's it like to conduct a romance when so many people are watching? - Los Angeles Times (latimes.com)
    1 point
  47. Coming from Philadelphia last year and longing for something as different (to put it lightly) as Good Day Philadelphia, I’ve found the LA options sorely lacking. Every time I turned on KTTV, aside from headlines it always seemed it was Michaela doing her best passionate-nodding-and-understanding-eyes Oprah impression during some interview. If she were to end up at KCAL, I’d hope it would be as part of more of an ensemble presentation (like the CBS sister operation in Sacramento or the aforementioned Philadelphia broadcast)
    1 point
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