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They can definitely do the concerts in that atrium space they filmed Live with Kelly and Mark the first week they moved to Hudson Square.

Spain.

I would have added this to the original KOIN thread, but it's been locked. So here we are in 2025 and WKRG has once again separated the branding of their CW newscast as "Gulf Coast CW News" Being a Nexstar CW O&O, I personally think the color palette is hideous. They should have never dumped the green for the orange. But that's all Nexstar's doing for their attempts to make CW "America's most watched network with programming for everyone" I wonder if this is going to be a trend for any of Nexstar's CW stations that are on and operated with other affiliates.... On the bright side, I don't think we'll ever be seeing this on stations like WPIX, KTLA or WGN...

Miles City is 75 miles away from Glendive, but still almost 150 miles from Billings. It's also twice the size of Glendive. It seems like KYUS should be rolled into the existing Glendive market and made the focal point of it. Whatever becomes of KYUS would then feed KXGN. It's currently a brokered feed of Cowles' KULR, and other broadcasters could broker the subchannels to feed this area. But given the remoteness of the area, it should have happened years ago and current conditions wouldn't warrant undergoing such a transformation. Regarding the satellite services, Glendive appears to be the ONLY DMA to have never started local feeds on DirecTV. Does DirecTV still offer the NY/LA stations for remote areas of the country like this?

Which country? Even if I knew every country's flag by heart, that icon is tiny.

To clarify things, Mid-Rivers Communications serves Glendive, but appears to have discontinued video service.

NBC going away at the end of 2024 was probably the end of their affiliation agreement, and due to the pending wind down of the station operations, dumping NBC was a way to cut costs because of the reverse compensation agreements most network affiliates have. This does beg the question to what the television situation is outside of KXGN. Glendive technically doesn't have an NBC affiliate anymore or even a de facto affiliate as well. Glendive doesn't even appear have a cable company, and DirecTV doesn't even provide local stations for its viewers. Dish supplements KXGN with KOTA (ABC), KEVN (FOX) and no NBC affiliate since KXGN pulled the plug. YouTube TV fills in the gaps with WMAQ out of Chicago, KHMT out of Billings for FOX and a straight ABC feed in Pacific time with ABC News live filling in the gaps. There's still KYUS in Miles City, basically a repeater of Cowles' KULR. It's in the Billings market so adapting it to serve the Glendive audience is still a challenge. I wonder if that would be part of the sale of KXGN since these are the only remaining parts of Stephen Marks' TV station group.

I am interested to see what happens with this station. I pray to God that this station isn't sold to Morgan Murphy and converted into a satellite station. Last time this happened (with WBKB in Alpena) the station's news operation was shut down and replaced with the newscasts from Traverse City, so I'm hoping MM doesn't shut this station's news down and replace it with another station's local news.

Which means she manages sales for a pharmaceutial company and goes around medical facilities selling physicians on their drugs (Wikipedia says they have a chloesterol drug). Probably a lot easier money and schedule for her.

Is there a reason why WBTS doesn't show the time of night during their 11 PM news, opting to show a weather icon instead? Earlier in the day, you can see the current time in the bottom-right corner:

I have noticed, as I'm sure you have too, a preponderance of graphic packages being knocked off. In fact, it's become so bad in recent years that I thought creating a new thread was in order so that we may critique the major gaffs made when knocking off packages or applauding their work (in very rare instances). Below are a list of knockoffs I've found: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1l2N8A5QH4 (Knockoff of these from KUSA: ) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJItPpRdWNc (This well-known gem is a knockoff of Look F with Look B elements) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgvysZGyGX4 (An attempted knockoff of Look G) (Another station trying to knockoff the Belo graphics and they stole the KVUE logo!) I already know that there are other knockoffs like KNOE, KHSL, WKYT, etc... Share your knockoffs and opinions here!

is it still a ripoff if it’s an improvement?

Came across this on Logopedia: Los Angeles area station KVME's 2012 ripoff of the late '90s/early '00s Hearst-Argyle camera graphics (specifically, the station ID)

This KWWL newscast from New Year’s Day 1995 features an open that’s based on the 1993-95 title sequence used by then-NBC-owned KCNC (which became a CBS O&O nine months later).

The KSDK NewsChannel 5 Cover Story promo at 1:40 in this video has a knock-off of Hearst's early Camera graphics in the 1990's.

That is the L3 for promos. At least that's when I see them in KNSD. Something off topic, in the past week I've noticed KNSD running station ID's and very often. Almost every commercial break. And they've also started using the NBC chimes when presenting the extended forecast. Has some new mandates gone into effect?

Yeah the Greek alphabet is my odds on favorite. Also they haven't actually used all the letters in the Latin alphabet yet. They've used A-G, then jumped to N, then S and then T was the original Telemundo O&O/Nextar package so there are plenty of letters at their disposal.

They could also go: NATO phonetic alphabet -- Look Alpha, Look Bravo, Look Charlie.... Numerical -- Look 27, Look 28... Emoji! -- Look , Look ...

They could go greek. Look Alpha, Beta, ... or use a year. I'm sure NBCU suits will have lots of options.

Look AA

I wonder when the alphabet runs out what are they gonna name the designs.

And as of the 19th, KNTV has made the graphics yellow for the morning broadcasts.

They could wait till the Winter Games in 2026 (also a Super Bowl year for NBC). There's some prescience for that. Look F was rolled out leading up to the 2012 games which also were a Super Bowl year. I agree Look S still looks very good and on par with the other O&O designs. I just hope they don't plan on waiting till then to update their stations' logos to the new Peacock design.

I take these updates as a confirmation that we’re not gonna see a Look T for the Paris Olympics? Makes sense since the Tokyo delay made it such that Look S debuted in 2021? In any case Look S looks great and I wouldn’t mind if it stuck around for longer.

Finally! The bug is aligned.

WCAU has it sans the colored bug fill portion

Yeah, a few weeks ago WRC modified their look to that.

Yeah this update started with Los Angeles rolling out the update, soon I saw it in Boston, then I saw it in Telemundo 52 LA, now it’s in Orlando it’s coming fast!

Small changes to Look S throughout TLMD and NBC O&O Stations. Lowerthird a bit bigger.

CSD: But we stole ABC's network slate design! GM: NO ONE WILL KNOW THE DIFFERENCE.

One KBO broadcaster seems to like YES's MLB scoreboard (this is basically a boxy flat version of it)

i think this belongs here GM:QUICK STICK THE CBS LOGO IN IT PD:are you sure? GM:YES THEY WONT NOTICE

Seems like that H and C Communications (Hobby family of Houston) really liked to borrow elements from Belo graphics during the late 1980s. All 'clear' examples of following are from the roughly same time frame. KPRC-TV Channel Two News 6p WESH NewsCenter 2 6p WTVF Eyewitness News 10p With possibly similar traces (panorama still of Des Moines skyline, then the anchors' personal shots) also present at KCCI's TV8 News back then. *Their lone holdout seems to be KVOA! For comparison: KHOU back then, when it was Houston's (genuine XD) Belo station

Heartland is run by the former CEO of Gray, and in another tie-in, their website is a carbon copy of the websites Allen Media stations use... And Allen bought a bunch of former Heartland stations. Small world.

WKTV debuted new graphics this week, and they are a knockoff of GrayONE:

Interesting. This was a year before Media General sold WDEF to Morris, who basically maintained the Media General style at the time, well into their transition into HD. That look at the time was originally done by VDO, and later brought in house by Media General, with some additions from other stations, mainly WFLA. Perhaps the look was done "in-house" by a former employee who left Media General?

And the final station to adopt the graphics are KTDO 48 in El Paso, Texas, who also moved into a new building

Hmm. WNBC uses the same L3s as in all other newscasts.

WTEN's 2000 graphics were a direct ripoff of WJBK FOX2's look at the time (Given the fact that it was done by the graphics company, VDO):

My word. That is blatant

That knockoff is so close it almost makes me wonder if it's the actual graphics package.

I think they're doing it to bully residents of Bristol County, MA. Also, if someone decides to cut the cord and use an antenna to watch TV in that area, they may see NBC on Channel 10, only to find out it's WJAR, "NBC 10 Providence".

Yeah the logo is a ripoff of KVUE, but I actually think the graphics package WTVA uses is syndicated. The same look has been used on , and is currently used on and . Not sure who's responsible for it, though. It's definitely not a Belo ripoff.

Yikes, that open is awful. *cringe*

At KALB, WPVI happy people montage + WNBC 2010-2012 equals: [yt]IFXlMr3enyI[/yt] Also, think whoever did the theme likes the drum effect?

The full half-hour special devoted to Mr. England aired last night on KWTV. R.I.P. Gary.

Just for fun, I checked to see how far Spokane is from Glendive. Using KXGN's building as the Glendive end, Spokane is about 595 miles away, or about the same distance as Duluth, Omaha, a point 15 miles north of Pueblo, CO, and over halfway up into Saskatchewan. You could draw a straight line from Glendive through downtown Minneapolis and not hit 595 miles till you're just over the river in Wisconsin. So, yeah, Spokane is just a bit too far from Glendive.

KXGN no longer produces local programming. TV Passport shows airings of “The Noon News,” “The 5:30 News,” and “The 10:00 News,” which are from KTVQ in Billings. So, MM can’t really sink it anymore.

Technically, KXGN's already affiliated with the MTN group, so it would be more a matter of launching a new .2 subchannel to match the other stations. Oh, and apparently those stations' .2 subchannels are "independent" but all use the MTN branding, which is actually rather clever.

NBC 6 Miami's online L3s almost look better than the actual tv package.