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  1. The graphics in the KDNL clip clearly are a mod of the Ellis Communications graphics from that period, but more or less closely resemble the mod of said package that WSMV got about a year or two earlier.

     

    Will give KDNL credit they had a nice polished newscast back then. They could have done well with themselves if they would of kept on.

  2. It slowly disintegrated from 2004 until she was fired in 2010. Bill Carey actually brought it to number 1 before he left and she inherited that.

    When did Carey come in to town? 2000 or 2001? I remember the news article that WJBK 10pm was nipping on WXYZ 11pm. The article went on how Neil Goldstein then ND at FOX 2 brought the morale up. I remember around 04/05 XYZ & ABC was riding high. It seem once Grace Gilchrist retired and Marla Drutz was passed over for her job, and she went over to DIV. The change in numbers started and Scripps went bipolar on those in-house shows. Maybe towards her end the numbers came down. Once Oprah left the airwaves that 5pm news crashed. That was a stable #1 then.

  3. KOCO is not in last place and neither is KSTP.

    Oh, really? Anyone familiar with Minneapolis TV can tell you KSTP has been in the gutter since ... forever. Thus the neverending tweaks, including talent. Hello, Paul. OKC might have a little more wiggle room depending on how well KOCO did in any given book and how poorly KOKH may have done. If your idea of successful is fighting for 3rd or 4th place, local TV isn't for you.

     

    Children, children now now now. KOCO has been in third place, but during a decade ago when Oprah was on at 5,6, it did really well. There been sometime where it was very competitive. As for KSTP it has been a revolving door. However it hasn't always been third. WCCO & KSTP use to fight it out. At one time in the 70s KSTP had a 50 share, and yes that was decades ago. However, the cracks at KSTP started in the 80s. Channel 11 was sold from MetroMedia to Gannett and Gannett poured alot of money and NBC was riding high. By the end of 80s into 90s. KSTP news moved into third place in all dayparts.

     

    KSTP has always had a great news product, but the faces changed daily due to Frank Magid consultants who were college friends with Stanley Hubbard [even friends you are still giving me bad advice IMO]. If you can go and read the stories about Stanely Hubbard. They're legendary! He had issues with Ron Magers, saying Ron was doing drugs and Stanely sent Ron to a rehab place. Stanely Hubbard had some of the female talent desk locked and chained. Even memebers of the station said Stanely is his own worst enemy. Then there was the Cyndy Brucato debacle. She was the face of the station in the early days, and research wasn't too kind. The consultants said she was too manly on the news, and she was outsted and then appeared on the new NEWS 11 W*USA but doing some light reporting. While Stanely Hubbard was being a terror over in Golden Valley, Gannett had a win-win team at now KARE 11. Paul Magers, picked up where his little brother was the king of the Twin Cities News for 20 years . Also Paul Magers worked at KSTP as a dispatcher when Ron was there.

     

    Stanely Hubbard rested on his laurels and the quote he said was "Nobody ever watch Channel 11, so we never took them serious, and thought who would watch their news." You can never rest on your competition and why didn't his best friend Frank Magid didn't tell him that or, maybe he did? The station has always invested in the tools, and throughout the 90s same old story faces come and go. They were able to get Colleen Needles from WCCO, but she left on her own. She has a production company that produce many reality shows that on cable now. Julie Nelson was able to move to from the morning to succeed Colleen to find herself getting a good deal from KARE 11 where she had to sit out for a year on her non compete. Harris Faulkner moved up to evening news and the ratings didn't move and she went over to WCCO now at FOX NEWS. Now with the pie so fragmented there been a few times where KSTP in early evening at #2 or #3. KMSP has step their game up, and despite Gannett/TEGNA woes KARE is not the break out star it once was, but it still solid.

     

    It hard to find ratings online but here some old ratings from both markets.

    http://www.b-roll.net/forum/archive/index.php/t-8449.html

    https://www.minnpost.com/braublog/2011/03/wcco-news-soars-february-tv-sweeps-while-kare-falls

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  4. She has had a rough history... not sure how to feel about her running a station...

    How so? She worked at number of stations. She also worked at WXYZ started in the 80s and have several jobs at Channel 7. In the 2000s she was news director.

    She like everyone in VP role. She'll be there for sometime and get burned out, and leave to spend more time with her family. Plus make alot of money in the process. She'll be ok, but no worse than all the others that came before her or after her.

  5. Hasn't worked? I beg to differ. WSB has Cinnamon Linda Stouffer in the mornings, longtime CNN Headline News anchor and she's great! Her and Fred Blankenship are a solid team (and should arguably be on nights). Nothing against Justin Farmer and Jovita Moore, but they're a bit stiff for my taste.

    Fred and Linda are good and maybe they should be on the anchor desk at Noon and 4pm. However, WSB-TV has never been that station that laid back, but everything is hard news. Justin and Jovita they do well. Maybe John Bachman was more youthful looking and seem more exciting than Justin. If your looking for happy and friendly and laid back that always been WXIA. WAGA just follows what WSB does. After 30 years of operation WGCL is still trying to find it niche.

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  6. This was mentioned in the shoutbox. I think it's an awesome choice, but I question whether they should have just continued with their Sharon Reed and Tracye Hutchins combo and break the long-standing anchor stigma that there has to be a lead male anchor and a lead female anchor, and at least one of them should be an ethnicity other than white on weeknight newscasts. It would be the third or fourth time Tracye was passed over for a position she deserves.

    Tracye certainly could be add in the 4 & 9pm news while Sharon and Thomas can be at 5,6,11pm standard. Sharon is consider the franchise, and worked with the news director in Cleveland, so we know she not going to leave. However some more pieces could be addes IMO.

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  7. It was more of a case of trying to get back to #1. They were tying/beating WTVT in 1985-86 and then ratings fell and they hired Terry Cole as ND in late summer 1988. It appears, based on what I've read, that Cole hired Shapiro from WTVT with the express intention of breaking into WTVT's servers. They also broke into Frank Magid's data. It was discovered in early 1989. At one point, a folder full of WTVT's personnel files was found behind a storage shed at WTSP's studios.

     

    Speculation is that other WTSP employees knew what was going on, but nobody other than Cole and Shapiro were actually committing the act. The state could have seized WTSP under anti-racketeering laws but the ownership agreed to pay out a hefty settlement and donate to the state attorney's office.

     

    Oh wow they broke into Frank Magid's data? Wow..Never knew this story but hey they did it for ratings points. Does anyone know where Terry Cole and Shapiro at today? Also who puts a file from the competition in a storage shed at your own shop? Did they not think about shreading the information? Do you think any of the staff at Channel 10 knew what was going on? The ownership that had to do the payout was that Great American Broadcasting?

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  8. Wow. I find that fascinating. Apparently, it was for breaking into WTVT's computer systems. Its why WTSP has been last or nearly last since then. They may have done it to try to increase news ratings but karma to WTSP because WTVT remained #1 during that time and is still #1.

     

    https://www.nytimes.com/1989/05/20/us/2-get-probation-in-computer-crime.html

    There was a time where WTSP did get up to #1 for a hot minute, and I wonder if it was during this time. WOW this story is very interesting, and juicy! Clearly they had no shame.

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  9. Why do we need TWO weather anchors on the same show?

     

    Sister stations WCAU & WRC also follows this same practice.

    WSB in Atlanta has Glenn Burns on at 4,6,11PM and Brad Nitz at 5pm before it was David Chandley before going over to WAGA to be the main weatherman.

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  10. I think WPEC is West Palm Beach has one.

    They do and it only 30 minutes at 3pm and an hour at 9am too.

     

    KOMO 4 in Seattle has a 3:30pm News

    KSNV 3 in Vegas has an hour long 3pm

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