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2 hours ago, sfomspphl said:

 

Steve Friedman the producer then sped up the pacing - also was there for the revolving sets while they tried to figure out how to beat GMA - he was there early 80s to 87. Probably got feedback his new blue set was too cold for the regular viewers, gave it the Earl Scheib treatment and made it brown.  

 

I think Magid was their consultant  - and they went to that textbook "plain background to let the talent pop and become identifiable" look with the minimalist 1983-85 set.

 

Then Bryant and Jane got their chemistry mojo after she came back from maternity leave in 84. NY skyline came back in early 85 with the new living room set, and they overtook GMA that year. 

 

 

That blue set looked like the precursor to 1A.

OG: blue set 1983

I'd say why not "CBS News Net" or "CBS News Stream". Perhaps "iCBS" as it references both internet and the network's eye logo branding.

The non video wall elements of the Times Sq set look very good, dare I say the best of the 3 morning shows. 

18 hours ago, Spintech33 said:

Man, I used to remember Jim Watkins during his days on WNBC.  All of New York media was very talented during the 80's, 90's and early 2000's. Those were the good ole days.  Lynn White was excellent in what she did while at Pix 11. 

Agreed! What prompted them to move Betty to 4:30am suddenly?

On 9/17/2021 at 3:01 PM, RCA TK47 said:

 I'm not saying for designers to make things look gaudy; I'm saying there needs to be more creativity to differentiate stations/station groups.  Stations need to have more of an individual "visual personality".  

I totally agree with you. It’s strange that we got warm colored, glossy and textured graphics in the age of standard definition, and all this flatness in the age of 4k and HD when tv’s would really be adept at displaying complex graphics. To each their own but flat graphics really look cheap and amateurish in most examples I’ve seen.  Hopefully flat becomes less ubiquitous as the decade goes on. We just need more creative diversity instead of one look everywhere!

11 hours ago, MorningNews said:

I mean this is the same station that put someone like Sukanya Krishnan on air every AM for 15 years, I don’t trust them to pick talent wisely.

LOL! It’d be cool if Lynn White and John Muller could work together again

Out of curiosity, when a game runs over time, are local stations against recording the newscast then airing it on tape delay, or is there a particular reasoning for waiting to air live at the pushed back time?

'Today' (1982). Loving how sped up the format is at this point compared to the Brokaw & Walters years. Not too slow and not the ADHD level pacing of today. It also seems that they were frequently experimenting with sets. I've seen the blue version of this current set before but  wasn't aware there was a brown variation as well. The sets from the late 70s up until the O.G. studio 1a (which was awesome) were all very well done.

Don’t care for the way the giant “CBS Mornings” box hangs on screen when the lower third is absent.

4 minutes ago, MorningNews said:

I don’t like the consolidation of studios in such a vast footprint as Rockefeller Center but NN utilizes Studio 1A rather well. Even better than Today.

Looks decent, and they do use the studio better than Today. I hope it doesn’t become like Studio 57 on CBS, used for everything.

On 9/9/2021 at 2:46 PM, SoFloTVClassics said:

September 11 coverage from MIAMI.

(though video quality is between good and bad)

 

WSVN (FOX News/ 7 News)

https://youtu.be/0dH9Y7346Po

WBZL (WSFL) coverage from WPIX.

https://youtu.be/DvVAZ03mJnc

 

Thank You! Was always curious how WSVN’s flashy format would have handled something as cataclysmic as 9/11. It’s also interesting to see the WB Miami station using New York’s WB affiliate coverage, since the network had no national news service.

Apologies for taking the thread back to that dark day but this video has a compilation of how several cable channels broadcast 9/11. Apparently Viacom networks (VH 1, CMT, and MTV) showed CBS News coverage, TLC carried BBC World News and even HSN carried some international news service. Facinating. I cannot think of another event in which entertainment cable channels suspended programming to carry a national news event other than BET carrying CBSN coverage of the Derek Chauvin verdict in 2021.

5 hours ago, MorningNews said:

I don’t want to belabor the point further but just what does intelligent mean in morning TV? I certainly don’t feel any smarter having watched CBS over any other program lol. They hosts singers, actors, chefs, social media stars too - just without the flashiness. I’ve seen a viral video or two be shared on the show for a “cute” moment. Lipstick on a pig if you ask me.

I guess intelligent morning tv would be like the Bryant Gumbell/Jane Pauley years on Today as the best example. Extended interviews, news magazine type feature pieces and conversations with people like military generals, foreign policy experts, and introspective authors.

Dumbed down would be modern GMA. Stories on some former Power Ranger actor caught up in a murder mystery or secret recordings of dentists’ snarky side comments while the patients were under anesthesia (ACTUAL stories that they have done). 

CBS Mornings on the other hand would be focusing on millennial home buyer-ship rates, climate change’s threats to Florida’s oyster population, and pandemic exoduses from cities to the rural areas (actual stories they’ve done).

They borrow some bits from the competition but the positives outweigh that for me.

On 9/3/2021 at 1:32 PM, qunewsguy said:

At least it matches the cheesiness of WABC's graphics now.

It speaks to the strength of WABC’s news team that they’ve maintained years at #1 with some of the worst graphics and iffy sets in the market. KABC and KGO have better looks and sets.

The flat abc logos from the 90s looked better than the 2021 flat logo. Perhaps because it’s surrounded by graphics that don’t match and is on a hd not sd television.

On 9/10/2021 at 4:24 PM, MorningNews said:

No offense to you but I really wish people would come off of this “smart” stuff especially when using it to ridicule the other shows. The first hour of each network morning show is full of news and investigative reporting, yes it descends into crap at 8 a.m. but CBS second hour isn’t exactly what it’s first hour is either. Lipstick on a pig is still a pig.

The first 30 mins of each morning show has decent news quality content.

However, CBS Morning’s 8am lifestyle hour is still superior to the Disney sing-a-longs, half decent pop music performances, and deals and steals on GMA … and the laugh, cry, “authentic moments” on Today. (To it’s credit the 8am hour of Today is still more watchable than GMA). GMA & Today feel significantly dumbed down from their former selves.

CBS Monings might have a few flaws (attempts to mimic the competition, and Gayle’s constant opinionated side remarks) but it’s still the more intelligent of the three shows.

Is any part of Times Square visible from the set? If not, what was the point of moving to Times Square if they weren’t going to utilize it as a backdrop?

Obviously ABC doesn’t Times Square but it feels a bit duplicative to center another morning show nearly across the street from GMA, and have Nate (who I like) taking on a similar role to Michael Strahan.  

On the flip side Fox & Friends is also at Rockefeller Center (just not that adjacent) so touché.

On 8/31/2021 at 6:40 PM, freelanceproducer said:

Tom Llmas is anchoring Nightly News tonight for the second night in a row. He has become the primary fill-in on Today and is having a growing presence on Nightly. His new NBC News Now primetime show is expected to launch this fall, so this wide-ranging presence on the linear channel is great marketing for that. 

 

As a side note, the patriotic color elements (mainly on the floor) in the Nightly News studio have been removed. The wood elements remain silver and gray. 

He’s a pretty decent substitute anchor. It feels like he’s being groomed for any future vacancies either at Today or Nightly News. Always good to have decent talent in the reserves, similar to Whit Johnson on ABC.

Wish it were a total overhaul. The desk looks nice, unfortunately the studio is still barren in favor of that giant video wall. I’m glad their utilizing the plaza especially filming outside during the 9am hour. 

6 hours ago, tjt24 said:

It needs to be bigger. You can barely see it. I literally had to zoom in to this picture to actually see it. 

Just like abc, a giant graphical step backwards. The tiny bug looks right for a streaming service not network tv. 

1 hour ago, ABC 7 Denver said:

 

About bloody time. The logo always seemed dated.

I liked the serif looking font for CBS, but this is a nice look as well.

Of all the Morning show attempts CBS has has was CBS This Morning (2012) the most successful? and I’m curious as to which morning show attempt do you think was CBS’s best?

22 minutes ago, hfiles said:

The lower thirds look like it should be called "CNN Mornings." Especially when there's breaking news and the orange turns red.

 

Also, my local affiliate still has the wrong time zone and wrong weather on the ticker.

Agreed. The graphics are very CNN and the CBS bug is too small, otherwise the lower third is a nice look, much improved!

The name change however was utterly unnecessary. If this fails, give up the morning attempts and hand the slot to the local cbs affiliates.

17 hours ago, MorningNews said:

Well both Sandra and Joe were off this weekend, they’ve both been filling in all week.

Sandra & Joe solid pairing that would work well on weekdays, but the current line up is already solid. WABC really has strong anchor talent currently. 

3 hours ago, CircleSeven said:

 

I'm glad the O&O's are pulling from the "oversized" standard the network is pushing.

Good because this new logo is a massive step backwards graphically. WABC in general has been the lesser of the big 3 stations graphics and studio wise, none the less they’re still on top!

Does WPIX really need another newscast? Their morning news is alright but the rest is just okay quality wise. From a business standpoint I suppose it’s beneficial to them.

On 8/23/2021 at 6:12 PM, NowBergen said:

It is a homecoming for Tom.  Prior to ABC News, he was at WNBC.  He is also NBC's national correspondent.

Tom is really being featured prominently. He anchored a special report on the end of the Afgan war. CBS could take a page from NBC and ABC, take the time to really boost and develop talent incase you have to fill a more prominent vacancy in the future.

Didn’t CBS already try and fail to use the Sunday morning formula/brand on weekdays back in the 80s??? Similarly didn't they switch from the name CBS This Morning to “This Morning” in the 90s? History repeats itself.

The new studio looks better than the current, and Nate might be a better fit than Anthony but the name change was unnecessary. You’ve had the title CBS This Morning for 9 years now, keep the consistency. They would have had me with “Sunrise”, “Daybreak” or “Dawn” but CBS Mornings is bland.

Hopefully they leave Jane in the OG set on Sundays and continue to top Today and GMA content wise on the weekdays.

3 hours ago, cbs2idiots said:

I think hot bench would be a good spot at 4pm, one of Judge Judy creation.

i wouldn’t mind hot bench at 4 and a Judy rerun at 4:30 as the lead in to the 5:00 news.

Keep Judge Judy at 4! Then again how long can a daily syndicated  show remain popular in reruns only.