Rusty Muck 4368 Posted May 9, 2024 Share Posted May 9, 2024 7 minutes ago, GraphicsMan said: He has to have WPIX. Mark my words. Not only will he not get it, he'll stubbornly refuse to sell anything in order to buy it. This is the same clown who runs a company that proudly boasted on their own website they could buy ABC "with little friction". And no one has seemingly considered this is why the FCC has started to crack down on them. 3 Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/12826-nexstaragain/page/86/#findComment-297100 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NowBergen 681 Posted May 9, 2024 Share Posted May 9, 2024 He can only buy WPIX if he sells a boatload of stations. He is not willing to do that. Time for him to end the Mission charade and walk away. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/12826-nexstaragain/page/86/#findComment-297102 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenShine_10 96 Posted May 9, 2024 Share Posted May 9, 2024 3 minutes ago, NowBergen said: He can only buy WPIX if he sells a boatload of stations. He is not willing to do that. Time for him to end the Mission charade and walk away. He'd have to sell pretty much every station in markets below the top 60 to fit WPIX. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/12826-nexstaragain/page/86/#findComment-297103 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mre29 1519 Posted May 10, 2024 Share Posted May 10, 2024 2 hours ago, Rusty Muck said: Not only will he not get it, he'll stubbornly refuse to sell anything in order to buy it. This is the same clown who runs a company that proudly boasted on their own website they could buy ABC "with little friction". And no one has seemingly considered this is why the FCC has started to crack down on them. Don't worry, Perry -- Rand Paul is coming to your rescue! Quote Dr. Paul introduces Local News and Broadcast Media Preservation Act HENDERSON, Ky. (WEHT) – According to Dr. Rand Paul’s office, on Wednesday, he introduced the Local News and Broadcast Media Preservation Act which would give local broadcasters and newspapers “relief” from government restrictions. “With the rise of social media and an ever-changing media landscape, it is imperative that our local newspapers and broadcasters are given the freedom to adapt. My Local News and Broadcast Media Preservation Act gets government out of the way and frees broadcast media from the chains that restrict their ability to better serve their customers,” said Dr. Paul. Officials with his office say the Local News and Broadcast Media Preservation Act would exempt print, broadcast and digital news organizations from federal antitrust laws to allow them to compete with and negotiate with national tech companies. Additionally, the legislation would allow local broadcast companies to merge without government interference to allow those broadcasters to better compete against tech giants. According to Dr. Rand Paul’s office, lastly, the bill would eliminate the local and national caps on radio and television ownership and would create an environment which would allow maximum flexibility for competition and negotiation. Shouldn't they be referring to him as Senator Paul? I hope the bill crashes and burns. All it would do is help Nexstar, SInclair, and Gray gobble up more broadcasters, leaving smaller broadcasters such as Hearst and Graham (and smaller) unable to acquire stations because they keep getting outbid. 2 1 Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/12826-nexstaragain/page/86/#findComment-297117 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmericanErrorist 148 Posted May 10, 2024 Share Posted May 10, 2024 1 minute ago, mre29 said: Don't worry, Perry -- Rand Paul is coming to your rescue! Shouldn't they be referring to him as Senator Paul? I hope the bill crashes and burns. All it would do is help Nexstar, SInclair, and Gray gobble up more broadcasters, leaving smaller broadcasters such as Hearst and Graham (and smaller) unable to acquire stations because they keep getting outbid. It has no chance in the current Senate. 1 Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/12826-nexstaragain/page/86/#findComment-297118 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraphicsMan 114 Posted May 10, 2024 Share Posted May 10, 2024 (edited) 4 hours ago, Rusty Muck said: Not only will he not get it, he'll stubbornly refuse to sell anything in order to buy it. This is the same clown who runs a company that proudly boasted on their own website they could buy ABC "with little friction". And no one has seemingly considered this is why the FCC has started to crack down on them. Yeah I remember when Unc said that he was insane for saying that he’ll buy the network, especially that he just about owns a station in the same market of all 8 ABC O&Os. Just imagine LA NY, Raleigh, San Francisco having to beat against your competitor and be under the same ownership. Edited May 10, 2024 by GraphicsMan Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/12826-nexstaragain/page/86/#findComment-297124 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmericanErrorist 148 Posted May 10, 2024 Share Posted May 10, 2024 (edited) 19 hours ago, GraphicsMan said: Yeah I remember when Unc said that he was insane for saying that he’ll buy the network, especially that he just about owns a station in the same market of all 8 ABC O&Os. Just imagine LA NY, Raleigh, San Francisco having to beat against your competitor and be under the same ownership. Due to the 2 of the top 4 rule, Nexstar would have to spin-off a station in Fresno and Raleigh, and the FCC just ruled that it's already over the overall cap in NYC, but there aren't any rules against buying the other stations. Edited May 10, 2024 by AmericanErrorist Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/12826-nexstaragain/page/86/#findComment-297167 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraphicsMan 114 Posted May 11, 2024 Share Posted May 11, 2024 (edited) 17 hours ago, AmericanErrorist said: Due to the 2 of the top 4 rule, Nexstar would have to spin-off a station in Fresno and Raleigh, and the FCC just ruled that it's already over the overall cap in NYC, but there aren't any rules against buying the other stations. How about they just focus on KSEE/KGPE in Fresno and WNCN in Raleigh and don't do nothing else to Raleigh and Fresno. Raleigh a pretty growing market. If Perry buys WLFL they can't get WRDC, he can only pick one because if he got WLFL/WRDC/and WNCN that''s a Tripolily I don't think that's gonna happen. Same with Fresno that's 3 stations, I don't care so much for Fresno since its a small market, but I've been doing some reading about the Raleigh market they could overtake another major NC market in DMA rankings possibly in the next year and in the next 5 years they'll be a top 20 market. Perry Sook is dangerous. Edited May 11, 2024 by GraphicsMan Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/12826-nexstaragain/page/86/#findComment-297177 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jero85 4 Posted May 13, 2024 Share Posted May 13, 2024 On 5/11/2024 at 1:21 PM, GraphicsMan said: How about they just focus on KSEE/KGPE in Fresno and WNCN in Raleigh and don't do nothing else to Raleigh and Fresno. Raleigh a pretty growing market. If Perry buys WLFL they can't get WRDC, he can only pick one because if he got WLFL/WRDC/and WNCN that''s a Tripolily I don't think that's gonna happen. Same with Fresno that's 3 stations, I don't care so much for Fresno since its a small market, but I've been doing some reading about the Raleigh market they could overtake another major NC market in DMA rankings possibly in the next year and in the next 5 years they'll be a top 20 market. Perry Sook is dangerous. The other market you are referring to is Charlotte, and no it won't overtake Charlotte ever. Charlotte DMA is actually growing much faster than Raleigh/Durham/Fayetteville DMA, and has actually sped up in growing in the past year. Actually, the Charlotte DMA will be in the top 20 in the next year. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/12826-nexstaragain/page/86/#findComment-297204 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraphicsMan 114 Posted May 17, 2024 Share Posted May 17, 2024 (edited) On 5/12/2024 at 10:36 PM, jero85 said: The other market you are referring to is Charlotte, and no it won't overtake Charlotte ever. Charlotte DMA is actually growing much faster than Raleigh/Durham/Fayetteville DMA, and has actually sped up in growing in the past year. Actually, the Charlotte DMA will be in the top 20 in the next year. They’re literally right next to each other. Sacramento will remain in 20 for a minute. Raleigh has also beaten queen city in previous rankings in past years. Edited May 17, 2024 by GraphicsMan Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/12826-nexstaragain/page/86/#findComment-297359 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyrannical bastard 3948 Posted May 17, 2024 Author Share Posted May 17, 2024 (edited) For a market of Raleigh's size, it is criminally underserved thanks to Sinclair squandering their duopoly. On the other hand, WRAL and WRAZ has a commanding lead over the other stations and have been that way since the beginning of time. ABC owning WTVD keeps the market pretty stagnant since we all know about ABC ever buying stations. Any other owner would have likely pursued one of Sinclair's stations. Nexstar could expand, but it's in the same boat NBC was in back in 2006, no path to expand. Had they stayed in the market, they could have started a Telemundo station like their other markets. They just felt it was impossible back then so they divested those stations to Media General. In Charlotte's case, they have an abundance of outlets thanks to Bahakel (WCCB) and Cox having WAXN. WJZY gave Nexstar a path to build on what Fox created in 2013. This way, there are 5 broadcast voices compared to 3 in Raleigh/Durham. Even if Bahakel cashes out one day to Tegna or Gray, that's still one more. Edited May 17, 2024 by tyrannical bastard typos Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/12826-nexstaragain/page/86/#findComment-297368 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jero85 4 Posted May 17, 2024 Share Posted May 17, 2024 19 hours ago, GraphicsMan said: They’re literally right next to each other. Sacramento will remain in 20 for a minute. Raleigh has also beaten queen city in previous rankings in past years. No it has not ever. They are next to one another in ranks now, but Charlotte is still a faster growing region. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/12826-nexstaragain/page/86/#findComment-297375 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraphicsMan 114 Posted May 18, 2024 Share Posted May 18, 2024 2 hours ago, jero85 said: No it has not ever. They are next to one another in ranks now, but Charlotte is still a faster growing region. Well see, I think well overtake them. This is from 2011 we had beaten them so It can be done again https://www.sportstvjobs.com/local-tv-market-sizes-dma-2/ 1 Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/12826-nexstaragain/page/86/#findComment-297376 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jero85 4 Posted May 19, 2024 Share Posted May 19, 2024 On 5/17/2024 at 10:03 PM, GraphicsMan said: Well see, I think well overtake them. This is from 2011 we had beaten them so It can be done again https://www.sportstvjobs.com/local-tv-market-sizes-dma-2/ Charlotte will remain the largest DMA in the Carolinas. 2 Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/12826-nexstaragain/page/86/#findComment-297391 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraphicsMan 114 Posted May 21, 2024 Share Posted May 21, 2024 (edited) On 5/19/2024 at 12:11 AM, jero85 said: Charlotte will remain the largest DMA in the Carolinas. Again they’re right next to each other and could remain that way for awhile, but I’m betting Raleigh might overtake them. By the way CBS News is opening a Raleigh bureau. TVNewser reported that here’s the link. https://www.adweek.com/tvnewser/cbs-news-overhauls-streaming-channel-adds-new-bureaus/ Edited May 21, 2024 by GraphicsMan Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/12826-nexstaragain/page/86/#findComment-297421 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jero85 4 Posted May 25, 2024 Share Posted May 25, 2024 (edited) On 5/21/2024 at 1:40 AM, GraphicsMan said: Again they’re right next to each other and could remain that way for awhile, but I’m betting Raleigh might overtake them. By the way CBS News is opening a Raleigh bureau. TVNewser reported that here’s the link. https://www.adweek.com/tvnewser/cbs-news-overhauls-streaming-channel-adds-new-bureaus/ Charlotte has the potential to be a major top 20 market in its own based on its rapidly growing metro. Otherwise Charlotte would have long fallen & stayed behind Raleigh-Durham-Fayetteville market in the DMA rankings. Also the Raleigh-Durham market has way more cities over 50+ miles away including Fayetteville, Rocky Mount, and Goldsboro in it to match Charlotte. The Charlotte market is the Charlotte CSA (which the main MSA counties in NC & SC and the newly added Hickory-Morganton-Lenior portion of the CSA) by itself. CBS, NBC, ESPN, & Fox have had studios, news and/or sports bureaus in Charlotte since the 1980s. l wouldn't be surprised if Charlotte doesn't start to break out rankings past Raleigh-Durham-Fayetteville in the next few years. Edited May 25, 2024 by jero85 Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/12826-nexstaragain/page/86/#findComment-297589 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraphicsMan 114 Posted May 25, 2024 Share Posted May 25, 2024 (edited) 9 hours ago, jero85 said: Charlotte has the potential to be a major top 20 market in its own based on its rapidly growing metro. Otherwise Charlotte would have long fallen & stayed behind Raleigh-Durham-Fayetteville market in the DMA rankings. Also the Raleigh-Durham market has way more cities over 50+ miles away including Fayetteville, Rocky Mount, and Goldsboro in it to match Charlotte. The Charlotte market is the Charlotte CSA (which the main MSA counties in NC & SC and the newly added Hickory-Morganton-Lenior portion of the CSA) by itself. CBS, NBC, ESPN, & Fox have had studios, news and/or sports bureaus in Charlotte since the 1980s. l wouldn't be surprised if Charlotte doesn't start to break out rankings past Raleigh-Durham-Fayetteville in the next few years. Well CBS is taking a try on Raleigh, citing it as a fast growing metro, CBS did have a bureau in that other NC city but it was closed. ABC ofc course has a bureau here in WTVD, FOX only has studios there for Nascar purposes, the NBC News Channel is leaving their building and downsizing to certain office building. But both markets have the possibility to crack the top 20 but Sacramento is tough to beat, and will probably stay ahead of both NC markets for the foreseeable future. But both markets only trail by a few hundred people, its really close, also the Lee and Harnett county was added back to the Raleigh CSA, the only problem is the Census refuses to remerge Raleigh-Cary MSA with Durham-Chapel Hill based on commuting patterns, making stats pro-sports, and advertising a bit difficult. But both markets I see are gonna be fighting each other for a minute, I don't see both areas hitting 3 million in its CSA. NBCUniversal has returned to Raleigh to own the Telemundo station, honestly it's gonna be a nasty fight for a few years, both metros are growing fast but Raleigh has messed up statistics due to split up MSAs. Which is why Raleigh has a hard time we've been as one person said criminally underserved. Edited May 25, 2024 by 24994J 1 Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/12826-nexstaragain/page/86/#findComment-297597 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mer764KCTV5 150 Posted June 4, 2024 Share Posted June 4, 2024 Doing an small bump to remind Y'all that the deal to sell WJMN-TV outta Escanaba–Marquette, Michigan has been approved by the FCC. (Check the Michigan section.) Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/12826-nexstaragain/page/86/#findComment-297813 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jero85 4 Posted June 5, 2024 Share Posted June 5, 2024 On 5/25/2024 at 3:04 PM, GraphicsMan said: Well CBS is taking a try on Raleigh, citing it as a fast growing metro, CBS did have a bureau in that other NC city but it was closed. ABC ofc course has a bureau here in WTVD, FOX only has studios there for Nascar purposes, the NBC News Channel is leaving their building and downsizing to certain office building. But both markets have the possibility to crack the top 20 but Sacramento is tough to beat, and will probably stay ahead of both NC markets for the foreseeable future. But both markets only trail by a few hundred people, its really close, also the Lee and Harnett county was added back to the Raleigh CSA, the only problem is the Census refuses to remerge Raleigh-Cary MSA with Durham-Chapel Hill based on commuting patterns, making stats pro-sports, and advertising a bit difficult. But both markets I see are gonna be fighting each other for a minute, I don't see both areas hitting 3 million in its CSA. NBCUniversal has returned to Raleigh to own the Telemundo station, honestly it's gonna be a nasty fight for a few years, both metros are growing fast but Raleigh has messed up statistics due to split up MSAs. Which is why Raleigh has a hard time we've been as one person said criminally underserved. Charlotte CSA is now over 3.3 M per the 2020, which means it's nearly 1 million population difference between it and the Raleigh-Durham CSA. The Unifour area had already tied economically themselves to Charlotte but merged into it officially by the US Census. Lake Norman development along with commuting between the two areas solidified it. I have ample knowledge of Sacramento due to family, like Raleigh it's DMA is tied to Modesto and Stockton in the a Central Valley. Sacramento is also not keeping up with Charlotte either. Charlotte is projected to be continued to accelerate in growth due to the the simultaneously growth from urban infill and rapid growth of its surrounding counties and the satellite cities of Concord, Kannapolis, Rock Hill, and Gastonia, Hickory. CBS never had news offices here. They do have sports bureaus here. NBC News Channel is in the same complex as WCNC. Its arrangement is similar to how WXIA is housing the NBC News Atlanta bureau. NASCAR, MLS & college sports programming are why FOX has its FS1 HQs in University City. Similar reasons with ESPN. I don't think it's a battle between the two areas. It's just becoming more apparent that Charlotte is more dominant area because it wasn't trying to seperate itself from other markets in the past. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/12826-nexstaragain/page/86/#findComment-297829 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraphicsMan 114 Posted June 11, 2024 Share Posted June 11, 2024 (edited) On 6/5/2024 at 8:11 AM, jero85 said: Charlotte CSA is now over 3.3 M per the 2020, which means it's nearly 1 million population difference between it and the Raleigh-Durham CSA. The Unifour area had already tied economically themselves to Charlotte but merged into it officially by the US Census. Lake Norman development along with commuting between the two areas solidified it. I have ample knowledge of Sacramento due to family, like Raleigh it's DMA is tied to Modesto and Stockton in the a Central Valley. Sacramento is also not keeping up with Charlotte either. Charlotte is projected to be continued to accelerate in growth due to the the simultaneously growth from urban infill and rapid growth of its surrounding counties and the satellite cities of Concord, Kannapolis, Rock Hill, and Gastonia, Hickory. CBS never had news offices here. They do have sports bureaus here. NBC News Channel is in the same complex as WCNC. Its arrangement is similar to how WXIA is housing the NBC News Atlanta bureau. NASCAR, MLS & college sports programming are why FOX has its FS1 HQs in University City. Similar reasons with ESPN. I don't think it's a battle between the two areas. It's just becoming more apparent that Charlotte is more dominant area because it wasn't trying to seperate itself from other markets in the past. Raleigh has that problem with separating itself for other markets, ill admit my area in the past didn't have smart people and was learning that lesson we made some costly mistakes like separating MSAs and some other things, its complicated situation, it more has to do with separate identities and hostile governments and citizens. But I see a scenario like Houston and Dallas, or Cincinnati and Columbus both NC markets will be neck and neck for years to come they both will be on each other tales. You right about their not being a battle, but its a stiff competition. Edited June 11, 2024 by GraphicsMan Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/12826-nexstaragain/page/86/#findComment-297966 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MediaZone4K 2172 Posted June 15, 2024 Share Posted June 15, 2024 (edited) Employees at WROC (CBS 8 Rochester, NY) are picketing over Nexstar's refusal to recognize their union. From my experience, you need about 75% of Staff support for the union to be recognized. According to the article, Nexstar tried to claim that producers are ineligible for unions because they serve in a management capacity. The National Labor Relations Board however ruled producers were union elligable. Do you all think the unionization attempts will be successful? https://rbj.net/2024/06/10/wroc-union-plans-picket-over-stalled-contract-talks/ Edited June 15, 2024 by MediaZone4K Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/12826-nexstaragain/page/86/#findComment-298097 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD TV 255 Posted June 18, 2024 Share Posted June 18, 2024 Noticed that DC News Now happens to now have an undelayed live stream, joining the small number of Nexstar stations that has one: https://www.dcnewsnow.com/dc-news-now-live-stream/ 3 Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/12826-nexstaragain/page/86/#findComment-298146 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jero85 4 Posted July 23, 2024 Share Posted July 23, 2024 On 6/18/2024 at 7:06 PM, MD TV said: Noticed that DC News Now happens to now have an undelayed live stream, joining the small number of Nexstar stations that has one: https://www.dcnewsnow.com/dc-news-now-live-stream/ Their 2-hour delay of live streaming is going to cost them big time in viewers. This is why Nexstar will be the first major TV station owner to fail because it's pure idiocy to delay a live stream and tell viewers to watch the station on live TV to see it live in 2024. 2 1 Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/12826-nexstaragain/page/86/#findComment-298893 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MediaZone4K 2172 Posted July 27, 2024 Share Posted July 27, 2024 (edited) With all the talk of new graphics...How is the WXIN (Fox) WTTV (CBS) duopoly allowed in Indianapolis? Don't the FCC rules state that a company cannot own more than one of the top four local stations? Fox 59 and CBS 4 are the #1 and 2 stations respectively according to Nexttv. Edited July 27, 2024 by MediaZone4K Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/12826-nexstaragain/page/86/#findComment-298981 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nathannah 2428 Posted July 27, 2024 Share Posted July 27, 2024 1 hour ago, MediaZone4K said: With all the talk of new graphics...How is the WXIN (Fox) WTTV (CBS) duopoly allowed in Indianapolis? Don't the FCC rules state that a company cannot own more than one of the top four local stations? Fox 59 and CBS 4 are the #1 and 2 stations respectively according to Nexttv. When Tribune acquired them they were a #5 CW affiliate and they switched to CBS, so it's allowed to stand with no issue. Most of the Big Four combos were allowed when the Fox affiliate had a sudden bad month against the WB because the FCC uses Nielsen market rank at the time of proposal to determine if a non-failed station waiver merger could go further or not; remember the attempted WTVJ sale to Post-Newsweek that didn't go through because Uni and Telemundo ranked higher than them before it died due to inaction. 3 Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/12826-nexstaragain/page/86/#findComment-298982 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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