24994J 5277 Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 A thought... Might Tribune be a little okay with losing the Seahawks because they know their gaining the Colts and (maybe even bigger than the NFL in Indiana) college basketball in Indy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleSeven 1944 Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 This doesn't have anything to do with KCPQ. But this could mean something... Looking through tonight's paperwork, KBCB in Bellingham, WA is being sold to (get ready y'all) FOX!!!! for $10M. The station is also letting Fox operate it under an LMA, until the sale closes. First of all, the station's coverage area goes further north so it doesn't reach Seattle proper, but it does reach to the southern portions of British Columbia (reaches Vancover proper). But there's some unanswered questions. Why would they want a TV station that doesn't reach Seattle proper (unless they want to go for cable coverage)? Are they're going to make that station a possible MYNet channel and possibly place a repeater for Fox with it? Or do they want to make this the new Fox station (which I would think it would be extremely unbelievable). I would still think, Fox needs to have at least one of the stations in the Seattle proper to go with KBCB, whether its KCPQ or not. But it is very clear that Fox wants to make its mark in Seahawks territory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewsMaster 226 Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 This doesn't have anything to do with KCPQ. But this could mean something... Looking through tonight's paperwork, KBCB in Bellingham, WA is being sold to (get ready y'all) FOX!!!! for $10M. The station is also letting Fox operate it under an LMA, until the sale closes. First of all, the station's coverage area goes further north so it doesn't reach Seattle proper, but it does reach to the southern portions of British Columbia. But there's some unanswered questions. Why would they want a TV station that doesn't reach Seattle proper (unless they want to go for cable coverage)? Are they're going to make that station a possible MYNet channel and possibly place a repeater for Fox with it? Or do they want to make this the new Fox station (which I would think it would be extremely unbelievable). I would still think, Fox needs to have at least one of the stations in the Seattle proper to go with KBCB, whether its KCPQ or not. But it is very clear that Fox wants to make its mark in Seahawks territory. Well now THIS is interesting... For reference, here's the coverage maps of KCPQ and KZJO. My first thought is that KBCB could be made a satellite of one of the two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
channel2 869 Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 So Fox literally just struck a deal to buy a station hoping nobody would notice. Has this sort of thing ever happened before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Block 1488 Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 Maybe this is a backup plan for KBCB? If Tribune doesn't blink and won't sell KCPQ, then it would seem easy for Fox to boost the signal of KBCB, get more cable carriage, and build it up the same way they did with WJZY. If Tribune blinks and sells KCPQ to Fox, then Fox can turn KBCB into a satellite of KBCB. It sounds like they have their bases covered. This was what many presumed would happen if Cox didn't budge on KTVU and if Fox would have bolted and built up KOFY or KRON. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTSC1980 98 Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 So now we could see My FOX Seattle.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
channel2 869 Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 If Fox resorts to yanking KCPQ's affiliation and moving it to KBCB, it seems like a repeat of what happened with NBC and KNTV, except at least KNTV was an established player in part of the Bay Area. Fox is starting from zero with KBCB. Also, I'm a bit surprised that Fox doesn't seem to have any intention of including KTBC in the sale of WPWR to Tribune and using it to get KZJO as well. It would help Tribune get under the ownership cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Block 1488 Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 It's not like Fox hasn't done it before. They did it with WJZY, which is obviously a work in progress but will probably get there eventually, and they spent all of the 90s building up their O&Os. As you would also know, they built up KDVR from scratch in a market that's smaller than but similarly-sized to Seattle. I can't remember if there were any other Fox O&Os with no news departments that they built up from scratch, but that was probably the biggest one. If any network were to be so bullish on building up their own stations, it would be Fox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mvcg66b3r 97 Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 Here's KBCB's schedule: http://tvschedule.zap2it.com/tvlistings/ZCSGrid.do?stnNum=15657&channel=14&aid=tvschedule Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Muck 4174 Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 Well now THIS is interesting... For reference, here's the coverage maps of KCPQ and KZJO. My first thought is that KBCB could be made a satellite of one of the two. And here's KIRO's coverage map. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mvcg66b3r 97 Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 And here's KIRO's coverage map. Bad link: https://maps.google.com/?q=... could not be displayed because it is not a valid KML or KMZ file. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Muck 4174 Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 As you would also know, they built up KDVR from scratch in a market that's smaller than but similarly-sized to Seattle. I can't remember if there were any other Fox O&Os with no news departments that they built up from scratch, but that was probably the biggest one. WFXT had newscasts produced by NECN at the tail end of the Boston Celtics' ownership. Fox took the newscasts completely in-house when they bought back the station. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Muck 4174 Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 Bad link: I corrected the link above. An oops on my part. :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrtraveler01 737 Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 And here's KIRO's coverage map. I've also read rumors that KONG could also be a potential candidate. The question is, is Gannett willing to give up its duopoly in Seattle to Fox? I think KCPQ is going to cave, the question is when. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samantha 2878 Posted October 6, 2014 Author Share Posted October 6, 2014 I'm reminded of when CBS bought WVEU in Atlanta: "With no other options, CBS needed something in case their continued pushes to convince a station failed, and the network entered into a contract to buy WVEU, a low-rated independent on channel 69. Based out of tiny offices near Spaghetti Junction, CBS promised that WVEU would start a local news operation, but they didn’t have much alacrity in moving forward with plans for local news." Of course, CBS never actually affiliated with WVEU. I think this is a bargaining move, personally. But if Fox decides that KBCB will become its affiliate "Fox 24", it will have a lot of work to do—probably the most work Fox has ever had in a TV station. I'd imagine that this station would need a much larger physical plant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenShine9 1509 Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 Or could Fox ignore all the established players and build up a new station from scratch? I could also see Tribune playing hardball and perhaps acquiring the CBS affiliation from KIRO...forcing Fox's hands by lack of an affiliate. When does KIRO's affiliation with CBS expire? I doubt Gannett will be willing to sell KONG unless they get something big in return... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike91 66 Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 Is KRIV in the top 4 in Houston? Or is there a Spanish station in there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WXmanTim 88 Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 We're not in the top 4. That much I know. Right now, I think it ranks KXLN (Uni), KPRC, KTRK, KHOU, KRIV (maybe). Usually the Mike Mcguff blog posts the sweeps month wrap, but I can't find anything for May or June 2014. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbs4dallas 17 Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 Why doesn't Fox make a move to buy KING or KOMO? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mvcg66b3r 97 Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 Why doesn't Fox make a move to buy KING, KOMO or KSTW? Fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike91 66 Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 IMO, there is no way in hell Gannett or Sinclair get rid of KOMO or KING. KIRO-maybe, but FOX had a chance to get them with the KTVU deal and didn't, so who knows there. KSTW-I really don't understand why CBS even bothers keeping them. This goes back to the Les Moonves saying CBS would buy stations if it wasn't for the cap. Why have a CW in Seattle when you can have a CBS somewhere else. I could see Gannett willing to part with KONG for the right price. There are two viable options for a trade with FOX. -KRIV(notice how I didn't say KTXH): Would give Gannett a huge (and legal without shells) duopoly in one of the biggest markets in a state they are huge in. BUT, it comes at a price. A combined newsroom would likely occur, meaning loss of jobs and only 3 English news ops in a huge market. Would the FCC approve, even if it is a legal duopoly. -WOFL/WRBW: Sure it is a secondary market for an NFC team. But if FOX wants a decent presence in Seattle enough they should consider ditching it and they want in Seattle badly, so they will probably overpay. Gannett would be a huge winner in this deal, giving up an indy in a heavy blue state for a Big 4 in a huge battleground state (which means tons of political ad money every few years). Only problem is a conflict with Florida Today (newspaper), but that will be ending soon, so worst case scenario would be sending the duopoly to Sander for a few months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Muck 4174 Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 The CBS Radio Seattle cluster is rumored to be on the block BECAUSE CBS supposedly wants to tie their stations more closely with their TV O&Os. It makes sense, if you look at their recent trade with Beasley that strengthens their clusters in Philly and Miami, but it just can't be done with a standalone CW affiliate in KSTW. In fact, if the talks with Tribune go south, it could be possible that Fox buys or trades with CBS to get KSTW, and the CW moves to KCPQ. I'm still hoping for Tribune to announce an affiliation agreement with CBS for KCPQ, completely blowing up Fox's plan. (How long DOES the KIRO affiliation last?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mre29 1341 Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 Might Tribune also be interested in WOFL/WRBW? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samantha 2878 Posted October 7, 2014 Author Share Posted October 7, 2014 (How long DOES the KIRO affiliation last?) 2017. It's in the ownership report. No month is listed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOneManHerd 553 Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 Might Tribune also be interested in WOFL/WRBW? Now that the Orlando Sentinel is out of the way, sure they would; but Fox seems intent on shaking Tribune down. On what planet is WPWR a fair trade for KCPQ? Fox needs to get serious and at least put KTBC on the table, if not KRIV and/or WOFL. Tribune won't/shouldn't budge otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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