ns8401 941 Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 I should have clarified my comments regarding KMGH's morning program, and its similarities with The Now. I understand that The Now isn't meant to be local, but it's merely an extension of the 7News Now format. My criticism is with regards to KMGH's shortening of airtime for local stories in their local newscasts and more time dedicated to really pointless national stories. It's the "This Clueless Old Woman Ran Her Cadillac Into a Seven-11 In Florida And It Was Caught On Tape" kind of pointless. In other words, complete fluff. The whole 7News Now format is to reduce any story to about 45 seconds or less, and have an anchor read it from somewhere completely different each time regardless of standing, sitting, whether there's a visual to go with it, whether it's with a camera on a ped with a prompter or a handheld camera with the anchor looking down to read a paper script, or if it's in a part of the studio that's even meant to be used for television. The toss that you pointed out was done with a handheld camera, as are many of them. It's flash for the sake of flash, and stories that aren't so much news as they are things that attract eyeballs. Seeing how 7News Now and The Now share the same location, same staff, and almost the same name, I think it's fair to say that 7News Now inspired The Now as a national version of itself. It's not news, it's just mindless infotainment of things that get people to watch and be stunned (plus weather and traffic, of course), and the flashy presentation style is distracting (and unprofessional looking, in my opinion). But again, if it's working in the ratings after being the perennial third place, then I guess they're getting what they want. Exactly, if it makes them money then that's what they go with. It's a business at the end of the day. The pomp and circumstance and all that other stuff you described other than that is irrelevent to be honest. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/13739-kmgh-rebranding-and-getting-new-set-could-it-be-park-place-render/page/2/#findComment-109717 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABC 7 Denver 1717 Posted July 22, 2014 Author Share Posted July 22, 2014 7News NOW as the brand for the whole station? Sounds too clunky and, frankly, too self-important... I'm fine with 7News Denver. It nicely parodies Fox31 Denver. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/13739-kmgh-rebranding-and-getting-new-set-could-it-be-park-place-render/page/2/#findComment-109772 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breaking News 829 Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 I'm fine with 7News Denver. It nicely parodies Fox31 Denver. As for newscast branding in Denver here the following; KWGN- Channel 2 News KCNC- CBS 4 News KMGH- 7 News KUSA- 9 News KDVR- FOX 31 Denver News [btw I like this one too] If your going to doing branding why have the samiliar name as your competitor i.e.[ if your in one of those markets that have CBS2, NBC5, ABC7] Currently you have (2) station with their channel # with the word NEWS. You have (2) other station with their affiliation in front of the channel # with NEWS. Each station brand and branding should stand out. KMGH has had many branding/moniker names over the years. KMGH 7 News, Colorado's 7 News, (currently 7 News). 7 News is good, but with the urgency many station are pushing for. I like 7 News NOW as the newscast branding, in general branding with station id tag, commericals Denver's 7 or KMGH 7. Every station not going to push Eyewitness News, Action News, or NewsChannel (which I like all three btw) and I do like the Local branding as well too. Also WRTV 6 in Indy I hope they change their branding from the current RTV 6 News to either 6 News NOW, or just 6 News. Every market is different, but your branding/moniker name stands out. KUSA 9 been 9 News for 30 years, WSB, WXYZ and WPVI have been using the Action News branding for over 40 years and have stuck with it, because they didn't change their branding name every 7-10years. They stuck with it and it synonymous to who they're and the station. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/13739-kmgh-rebranding-and-getting-new-set-could-it-be-park-place-render/page/2/#findComment-109786 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Muck 4378 Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 As for newscast branding in Denver here the following; KWGN- Channel 2 News KCNC- CBS 4 News KMGH- 7 News KUSA- 9 News KDVR- FOX 31 Denver News [btw I like this one too] If your going to doing branding why have the samiliar name as your competitor i.e.[ if your in one of those markets that have CBS2, NBC5, ABC7] Currently you have (2) station with their channel # with the word NEWS. You have (2) other station with their affiliation in front of the channel # with NEWS. Each station brand and branding should stand out. KMGH has had many branding/moniker names over the years. KMGH 7 News, Colorado's 7 News, (currently 7 News). 7 News is good, but with the urgency many station are pushing for. I like 7 News NOW as the newscast branding, in general branding with station id tag, commericals Denver's 7 or KMGH 7. Every station not going to push Eyewitness News, Action News, or NewsChannel (which I like all three btw) and I do like the Local branding as well too. Also WRTV 6 in Indy I hope they change their branding from the current RTV 6 News to either 6 News NOW, or just 6 News. Every market is different, but your branding/moniker name stands out. KUSA 9 been 9 News for 30 years, WSB, WXYZ and WPVI have been using the Action News branding for over 40 years and have stuck with it, because they didn't change their branding name every 7-10years. They stuck with it and it synonymous to who they're and the station. It's no coincidence that the two stations that have their affiliation with the branding - KCNC and KDVR - are and were O&Os, respectively. KSHB, KNXV, WFTS and WMAR are the only Scripps stations that employ their affiliations with the branding... and it's no coincidence that all four stations flipped affiliations back in 1995. (Why McGraw Hill never did such a thing with KMGH is a bit puzzling.) I don't have a problem with RTV6 News. It at least is distinctive as opposed to, say, "News Channel 5." Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/13739-kmgh-rebranding-and-getting-new-set-could-it-be-park-place-render/page/2/#findComment-109791 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidwestTV 1232 Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 It's no coincidence that the two stations that have their affiliation with the branding - KCNC and KDVR - are and were O&Os, respectively. KSHB, KNXV, WFTS and WMAR are the only Scripps stations that employ their affiliations with the branding... and it's no coincidence that all four stations flipped affiliations back in 1995. (Why McGraw Hill never did such a thing with KMGH is a bit puzzling.) I don't have a problem with RTV6 News. It at least is distinctive as opposed to, say, "News Channel 5." KSHB doesn't use their affiliation anymore. They rebranded to "41 Action News" from "NBC Action News" in 2012. They still have the peacock in their logo, but that's it. Although people are STILL confused about the affiliate switch or aren't even aware of it some 20 years after the fact. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/13739-kmgh-rebranding-and-getting-new-set-could-it-be-park-place-render/page/2/#findComment-109792 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jero23 105 Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 It's time for KMGH to use the "ABC 7" moniker... Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/13739-kmgh-rebranding-and-getting-new-set-could-it-be-park-place-render/page/2/#findComment-109835 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABC 7 Denver 1717 Posted July 23, 2014 Author Share Posted July 23, 2014 It's time for KMGH to use the "ABC 7" moniker... As much as it is for KUSA to take the NBC 9 moniker. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/13739-kmgh-rebranding-and-getting-new-set-could-it-be-park-place-render/page/2/#findComment-109849 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jero23 105 Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Double post Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/13739-kmgh-rebranding-and-getting-new-set-could-it-be-park-place-render/page/2/#findComment-109852 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jero23 105 Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 As much as it is for KUSA to take the NBC 9 moniker. KUSA is the #1 station in the market, so there is no reason for them to change... Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/13739-kmgh-rebranding-and-getting-new-set-could-it-be-park-place-render/page/2/#findComment-109854 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABC 7 Denver 1717 Posted July 23, 2014 Author Share Posted July 23, 2014 KUSA is the #1 station in the market, so there is no reason for them to change... Which is sad. Their news department isn't the best, their marketing department is. They are number 1 because of 9Cares and 9Health Fair. They don't NEED a excellent news department. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/13739-kmgh-rebranding-and-getting-new-set-could-it-be-park-place-render/page/2/#findComment-109868 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kcnewsjunky 14 Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Along the lines of Scripps stations getting new sets... KSHB has started clearing their studio out, the KCLIVE set has been removed and most likely moved to studio 2... you can see some pictures on their website KSHB.com Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/13739-kmgh-rebranding-and-getting-new-set-could-it-be-park-place-render/page/2/#findComment-110134 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABC 7 Denver 1717 Posted July 25, 2014 Author Share Posted July 25, 2014 This is the KMGH temporary set (Eric Kahnert on the right, Mike Landess on the left) Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/13739-kmgh-rebranding-and-getting-new-set-could-it-be-park-place-render/page/2/#findComment-110158 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleSeven 1955 Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 This is the KMGH temporary set (Eric Kahnert on the right' date=' Mike Landess on the left)[/color'] At first, I thought that was a secondary set. It's very roomy. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/13739-kmgh-rebranding-and-getting-new-set-could-it-be-park-place-render/page/2/#findComment-110159 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Muck 4378 Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 It's time for KMGH to use the "ABC 7" moniker... That's as likely as WXYZ and WKBW calling themselves "ABC 7" and WEWS calling itself "ABC 5." Which is less than unlikely. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/13739-kmgh-rebranding-and-getting-new-set-could-it-be-park-place-render/page/2/#findComment-110203 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NewsHound Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 This is the KMGH temporary set (Eric Kahnert on the right, Mike Landess on the left) Wow. That looks like a small market set, or anything designed by FX Group as of late. lol. Nevertheless, that's a very elaborate temporary set, most people would just set up in the newsroom or put a flat screen in front of a blank wall and a small desk. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/13739-kmgh-rebranding-and-getting-new-set-could-it-be-park-place-render/page/2/#findComment-110211 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidwestTV 1232 Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Hmmmm funny. ParkPlace has taken down the renderings of both KMGH and KSHB. I wonder if they got word that people (specifically us) found them? Kind of convenient timing too given how KMGH is now in a temporary studio and KSHB just moved KC Live into a separate studio. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/13739-kmgh-rebranding-and-getting-new-set-could-it-be-park-place-render/page/2/#findComment-110212 Share on other sites More sharing options...
channel2 979 Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 There was a point in the late 2000s when KMGH was trying to transition from "Denver's 7" to "ABC 7", but it didn't stick. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/13739-kmgh-rebranding-and-getting-new-set-could-it-be-park-place-render/page/2/#findComment-110230 Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Block 1566 Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 As was mentioned in the KSHB thread, Devlin is doing KMGH's set again, not Park Place. They've put up some "sneak peak" images of it on their blog, but you can't see much except for some of those color-changing LED walls that have been in every Devlin set in the last few years and a bunch of frosted acrylic panels. I'm glad they went with Devlin. Park Place's sets look pretty junky, and the KMGH design that was in that video didn't look all that great to me. Devlin has also been designing some really great sets recently. I also don't see any evidence of a "rebrand" on KMGH happening anytime soon, though Mike Landess' final newscast is Thursday, and Eric Kahnert will take his chair. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/13739-kmgh-rebranding-and-getting-new-set-could-it-be-park-place-render/page/2/#findComment-113132 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidwestTV 1232 Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Park Place has this weird obsession with lines that reallt dates their studios quickly. Kinda wish now Devlin was doing KSHB as well. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/13739-kmgh-rebranding-and-getting-new-set-could-it-be-park-place-render/page/2/#findComment-113135 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelson R. 569 Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 I can only wish they would be called Colorado's 7 News again and bring back a 6:00PM newscasts. http://blogs.denverpost.com/ostrow/2014/08/26/channel-7-drops-jeopardy-wheel-adds-new-newscast-newsmag/19757/ Ask and ye shall receive on the 6:00 newscast. Saw this on another board. Jeopardy and Wheel move to KDVR. It's a Scripps thing. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/13739-kmgh-rebranding-and-getting-new-set-could-it-be-park-place-render/page/2/#findComment-113171 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelson R. 569 Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Double post. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/13739-kmgh-rebranding-and-getting-new-set-could-it-be-park-place-render/page/2/#findComment-113172 Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Block 1566 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 So apparently KMGH's new set debuted last night during the ten o'clock news. https://twitter.com/7Marshall/status/511725488210182144/photo/1 Here's their story and photo gallery of the set construction: http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/check-this-out/peek-behind-the-curtain-at-7news-new-home It doesn't have any of those silly pods ripped off from the Shepard Smith set that the Park Place design originally had, but there's no desk or furniture to be found other than a stand-up pod for weather. It looks like there's also a circular table that they can wheel in if they want, but so far, I haven't seen it. I think the set overall looks okay. I still prefer most of Devlin's other sets in the last year or so. It's better than most of the stuff in Denver, but the video wall looks strange the way it curves around the corner, and I'm still not a fan of this new presentation style. The whole standing anchor for the entire program thing feels very cutting edge in the CNN-circa-2005 kind of way. Also, no branding changed other than the 24/7 Weather branding from 2004 has been replaced with "Storm Station 7." Dumb name. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/13739-kmgh-rebranding-and-getting-new-set-could-it-be-park-place-render/page/2/#findComment-114799 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidwestTV 1232 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Either way it's an improvement over what they had before. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/13739-kmgh-rebranding-and-getting-new-set-could-it-be-park-place-render/page/2/#findComment-114806 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRAP-TV 146 Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 The set needs a proper home base with a news desk. I am not a fan of this new look... Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/13739-kmgh-rebranding-and-getting-new-set-could-it-be-park-place-render/page/2/#findComment-115027 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbs4dallas 17 Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 I am so used to a news station having an anchor desk. It just doesn't feel like local news to me, without an anchor desk to stand or sit in front of. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/13739-kmgh-rebranding-and-getting-new-set-could-it-be-park-place-render/page/2/#findComment-115043 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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