Scripps - General Discussion

[NEOMatrix 1299]

At some point it makes you wonder what Scripps' end game is in the industry. All this "hip and cool stuff" combined with weird decisions and little recent investment in the on air look makes you wonder what's going on.

[Rusty Muck 4366]

I think it’ll be picked over in pieces in a bankruptcy or liquidation at some point...

If anything, Scripps will go towards a restructuring bankruptcy, not a liquidation bankruptcy.

 

Seriously, the company is not going to be peeled apart. WXYZ or other stations will not be sold off separately. Far more likely the company will wind up like Granite... holding on just for the sake of holding on.

[Rusty Muck 4366]

KJRH, KSHB, KERO, WFTX, WMAR and WKBW all don't air The Now

KB runs a 30 minute form of The Now at 7:00, which is their de facto local newscast in a market that doesn’t have any newscasts in that time slot.

[dman748 1256]

KB runs a 30 minute form of The Now at 7:00, which is their de facto local newscast in a market that doesn’t have any newscasts in that time slot.

Isn't KB is a Journal station turned into a Scripps station?

[TheRolyPoly 2362]

Isn't KB is a Journal station turned into a Scripps station?

 

KB was a Granite turned Scripps station.

[ns8401 940]

If anything, Scripps will go towards a restructuring bankruptcy, not a liquidation bankruptcy.

 

Seriously, the company is not going to be peeled apart. WXYZ or other stations will not be sold off separately. Far more likely the company will wind up like Granite... holding on just for the sake of holding on.

Umm... Granite was eventually peeled apart wasn’t it?

 

As far gone as these stations are and the amount it would take to make them hum again why would you restructure rather than getting the cash and walking away?

 

I don’t see the incentive there... it’s not unlike Sears-Kmart... what fool would try to restructure them and what would they get out of it?

[Rusty Muck 4366]

Isn't KB is a Journal station turned into a Scripps station?

No, WKBW and WMYD were sold by Granite to Scripps months before the Journal merger.

[Rusty Muck 4366]

Umm... Granite was eventually peeled apart wasn’t it?

 

As far gone as these stations are and the amount it would take to make them hum again why would you restructure rather than getting the cash and walking away?

 

I don’t see the incentive there... it’s not unlike Sears-Kmart... what fool would try to restructure them and what would they get out of it?

The same fools who are trying to restructure iHeart and Cumulus... John Malone, for one.

[CLETVFan 367]

Exactly, but the problem was that Scripps didn't give them the option when they should have

 

If The Now continues to sink in Cleveland, would WOIO start beating out WEWS in the late afternoon and early evening slots, plus 11pm?

[CLETVFan 367]

Not really. The Now killed off whatever ratings momentum KSHB had, and WXYZ did all that they could to make it as close to a straight newscast as possible.

 

WKBW has done decently with the Now at 7pm, where no other local newscast runs in that timeslot in the market (considering that KB lost Wheel and J! under the tail end of Granite mismanagement to WIVB, that isn’t saying much of anything).

 

WEWS recently swapped PnB with Steve Harvey - moving Steve back to 3pm - in a move reminiscent of their bailing on Dr. Oz a few years ago.

 

"Steve" on WEWS is now going up against "Family Feud" - hosted by Steve Harvey - on WOIO. So it's Steve vs. Steve in Cleveland!! Weren't both shows not supposed to air opposite each other?

[dman748 1256]

If The Now continues to sink in Cleveland, would WOIO start beating out WEWS in the late afternoon and early evening slots, plus 11pm?

It's a good question and I would venture out and say yes but let's wait and see what WKYC and WJW does (especially WJW) before I can give you a straight answer (besides that any discussion about the other Cleveland-area stations can be discussed elsewhere)

[Weeters 1915]

Here in Detroit they used the red breaking news ones a lot... those were well... red with a little white on the edges and stuff... it’s not like the trapezoids became rhombuses or something...

The big, gaudy black trapezoid bug certainly is new... Looks like someone made it in PowerPoint compared to the old bug. And yeah, the old package used white lower thirds and red ones for breaking news, but it seems like they're always red now.

 

I feel like these are a step backwards. The old package looked a lot more modern.

[ns8401 940]

The same fools who are trying to restructure iHeart and Cumulus... John Malone, for one.

Neither of those groups has much hope... both are big but both have previous financial difficulties... now you are in Greyhound territory... how many bankruptcies can we squeeze out of this thing?

[nathannah 2402]

Checked in with both WTMJ and WGBA and their "Now" treatment; it looks like WGBA is playing it straight with some local content where it's fit in naturally, while WTMJ is giving it a more selective treatment as if it's a wire service, though today was an unusual edition due to Jordy Nelson's release from the Packers and the wait for a news conference with the team (which thank goodness started after primetime and both stations sanely decided to give it the 'more at 10' treatment rather than pre-empt The Voice for it). Oddly, WTMJ isn't using the custom time/temp bug any longer.

[Webovision 202]

Checked in with both WTMJ and WGBA and their "Now" treatment; it looks like WGBA is playing it straight with some local content where it's fit in naturally, while WTMJ is giving it a more selective treatment as if it's a wire service, though today was an unusual edition due to Jordy Nelson's release from the Packers and the wait for a news conference with the team (which thank goodness started after primetime and both stations sanely decided to give it the 'more at 10' treatment rather than pre-empt The Voice for it). Oddly, WTMJ isn't using the custom time/temp bug any longer.

 

tmj4's version of the now was doing pretty well ratings-wise... so they might have some freedom to keep parts of their old format... one of the few "nows" where the ratings went up from the show it replaced ("wisconsin tonight" was a dumpster fire)

 

that bug was the normal now bug without the current conditions icon... a limitation of viz ticker versus newsroom solutions that scripps standardized everyone else on... someone told me they were working on adding it but it was very low priority... guess no one got around to it...

[AdamTheJ 90]

I want Ellen back on WPTV. I’m so unhappy with it on WPBF.

[ns8401 940]

I want Ellen back on WPTV. I’m so unhappy with it on WPBF.

Is it a different show there? I’d love to see the WPBF version... maybe it’s actually interesting...

[Georgie56 3293]

I want Ellen back on WPTV. I’m so unhappy with it on WPBF.

 

Does it make a difference? It’s the same show with the same episode no matter what station it airs on.

[mre29 1513]

I want Ellen back on WPTV. I’m so unhappy with it on WPBF.

 

Is changing the channel that difficult?

[Eat News 4745]

Is changing the channel that difficult?

 

I saw in an old book about TV, where they (people) used to have to get up and walk to the TV to change the channel.

 

That was before the world was in color ...in the olden days.

[Conrad 113]

I want Ellen back on WPTV. I’m so unhappy with it on WPBF.

You must be picky. You were used to Ellen on WPTV; why do you want her back on that station? Is it because they have higher news ratings?

[channel2 978]

Mario Gabelli is rattling sabers with Scripps now. If you remember, he was the one who pushed Fisher to sell itself.

[TSSZNews 1051]

Mario Gabelli is rattling sabers with Scripps now. If you remember, he was the one who pushed Fisher to sell itself.

 

I don't even know who Scripps could be sold to at this point without a couple significant conflicts--*maybe* Nexstar?

[DetroitTVNews 66]

I don't even know who Scripps could be sold to at this point without a couple significant conflicts--*maybe* Nexstar?

 

Well hopefully Scripps doesn't end up being sold to Sinclair...I'm glad I currently don't live in a Sinclair market, but if WXYZ and WMYD start running those must-runs...minus one viewer for them.

[channel2 978]

Or private equity might step out of the shadows...a long shot, admittedly, but they have money and cap space.

 

I am guessing a sale is Gabelli's endgame, which, if he pulled it off, would be interesting since Scripps has two classes of stock.