Scripps - General Discussion

[Rusty Muck 4688]

16 minutes ago, dman748 said:

Yeah they would have because they'd have to go up against the McBride's and you'd be saying the same thing you're saying about Hearst being "bullied" out of Fort Myers so you're wrong on that assumption

And you're wrong on assuming that things are going to be peachy keen for Hearst when any rudimentary knowledge of basic economics will tell you that the McBrides have a major advantage in the market and will dominate. But I'm not a bootlicker for Hearst, so...

[dman748 1316]

4 minutes ago, Rusty Muck said:

And you're wrong on assuming that things are going to be peachy keen for Hearst when any rudimentary knowledge of basic economics will tell you that the McBrides have a major advantage in the market and will dominate. But I'm not a bootlicker for Hearst, so...

No I'm not dum dum

[mre29 1967]

1 hour ago, Rusty Muck said:

I can assure you that Nexstar would not have wasted $220M on WBBH and a lease for WZVN.

 

So much for Nexstar/Perry Sook wanting to be in every market.

 

1 hour ago, Rusty Muck said:

Hearst was dumb and foolish and it bit them in the butt.

 

It hasn't bitten them yet. I mean, we've only had the announcement that Sun Broadcasting is buying WFTX.

 

1 hour ago, Rusty Muck said:

This forum is a non-stop lovefest for Hearst, the company that can do no wrong, ever. Math apparently takes a vacation here as well.

 

Whereas reasonable people such as yourself are upset that Hearst hasn't put up the white flag of surrender, sold all their stations to Nexstar/Sinclair/Gray/Tegna or private equity, rolled over, and joined the choir invisible.

 

There's a simple reason so many of us love Hearst:  As broadcasting companies throw in the towel and sell their stations to competitors or private equity, all indications are that Hearst is one of the very few really companies left. Could they someday disappoint us or even break our hearts by selling out to another company? Of course. But until it does, we'll keep cheering them on.

 

[ColtFromGulfcoast 869]

31 minutes ago, mre29 said:

 

So much for Nexstar/Perry Sook wanting to be in every market.

 

 

It hasn't bitten them yet. I mean, we've only had the announcement that Sun Broadcasting is buying WFTX.

 

 

Whereas reasonable people such as yourself are upset that Hearst hasn't put up the white flag of surrender, sold all their stations to Nexstar/Sinclair/Gray/Tegna or private equity, rolled over, and joined the choir invisible.

 

There's a simple reason so many of us love Hearst:  As broadcasting companies throw in the towel and sell their stations to competitors or private equity, all indications are that Hearst is one of the very few really companies left. Could they someday disappoint us or even break our hearts by selling out to another company? Of course. But until it does, we'll keep cheering them on.

 

 

[tyrannical bastard 4676]

Who knows... Maybe our FCC will actually show a backbone like Ajit Pai did by forcing the Sinclair-Tribune merger into an administrative law judge review.  Whoever saw that coming?

 

If there's any hope, maybe Chris Ruddy will convince Brendan Carr that all this consolidation is bad and sentence all of this forthcoming consolidation to the same fate...

 

We can only hope...

[Rusty Muck 4688]

On 9/4/2025 at 11:22 PM, mre29 said:

Whereas reasonable people such as yourself are upset that Hearst hasn't put up the white flag of surrender, sold all their stations to Nexstar/Sinclair/Gray/Tegna or private equity, rolled over, and joined the choir invisible.

That is so laughably not what I said at all. Get your head out of the sand.

On 9/4/2025 at 11:22 PM, mre29 said:

There's a simple reason so many of us love Hearst:  As broadcasting companies throw in the towel and sell their stations to competitors or private equity, all indications are that Hearst is one of the very few really companies left. Could they someday disappoint us or even break our hearts by selling out to another company? Of course. But until it does, we'll keep cheering them on.

Yeah go ahead and cheer on a bunch of rich fatcats that are content with wasting a quarter of a billion dollars on one station and an LMA. You realize how stupid that sounds? Or that you're defending the fandom's love for a conglomerate that doesn't deserve it? This type of behavior—besides "oooh Tegna bad" "oooh Scripps bad"—is why I don't take the reasonable people such as you in the TV fandom seriously because if it isn't that, it's people either wanting to be forever stuck in 2008 or judging the performances of stations based solely on vibes, like one person in particular on here.

 

And I'm going to call out @Weeters for not having the "ignore this poster" function in LNT, inasmuch as y'all think I'm an extension of him, you couldn't be more wrong.

Edited September 8, 2025 by Rusty Muck

[mer764KCTV5 213]

17 minutes ago, Rusty Muck said:

Yeah go ahead and cheer on a bunch of rich fatcats that are content with wasting a quarter of a billion dollars on one station and an LMA. You realize how stupid that sounds? Or that you're defending the fandom's love for a conglomerate that doesn't deserve it? This type of behavior—besides "oooh Tegna bad" "oooh Scripps bad"—is why I don't take the reasonable people such as you in the TV fandom seriously because if it isn't that, it's people either wanting to be forever stuck in 2008 or judging the performances of stations based solely on vibes, like one person in particular on here.

 

And I'm going to call out @Weeters for not having the "ignore this poster" function in LNT, inasmuch as y'all think I'm an extension of him, you couldn't be more wrong.

So, basically, you think Hearst, wasted MONEY on the "unnecessary" purchase of WBBH and the LMA of WZVN? Imagine saying that to the face of the Waterman family in 2023 when they sold them off. Hearst is more reliable. Also... At least Hearst isn't dumb and wanted to trash the stations. 

[ColtFromGulfcoast 869]

22 minutes ago, mer764KCTV5 said:

So, basically, you think Hearst, wasted MONEY on the "unnecessary" purchase of WBBH and the LMA of WZVN? Imagine saying that to the face of the Waterman family in 2023 when they sold them off. Hearst is more reliable. Also... At least Hearst isn't dumb and wanted to trash the stations. 

If you really wanted to see a show, imagine if theyd have been sold to Sinclair, Apollo or Allen. 

Edited September 8, 2025 by ColtFromGulfcoast

[ColtFromGulfcoast 869]

Also, can we talk about the tantrums and the slurs that a certain person is throwing. Is this how grown people handle things? No amount of talking to people like they're beneath you is gonna make you look good. 

Edited September 8, 2025 by ColtFromGulfcoast

[dman748 1316]

45 minutes ago, Rusty Muck said:

Yeah go ahead and cheer on a bunch of rich fatcats that are content with wasting a quarter of a billion dollars on one station and an LMA. You realize how stupid that sounds? Or that you're defending the fandom's love for a conglomerate that doesn't deserve it? This type of behavior—besides "oooh Tegna bad" "oooh Scripps bad"—is why I don't take the reasonable people such as you in the TV fandom seriously because if it isn't that, it's people either wanting to be forever stuck in 2008 or judging the performances of stations based solely on vibes, like one person in particular on here.

 

And I'm going to call out @Weeters for not having the "ignore this poster" function in LNT, inasmuch as y'all think I'm an extension of him, you couldn't be more wrong.

You need to look at yourself in the mirror and realize the things that you're saying isn't in line with what the vast majority of the people on this forum is thinking. And I will tell you this, by calling on staff to have an ignore button is very childish of you because you clearly cannot handle a healthy public discourse or anybody who has a much different opinion than you, that type of attitude was what nearly drove me out of the BP Discord server, you need to learn how to agree to disagree on things, you have your own opinons and I have my own opinions, EVERYBODY on this forum has their own opinions but to go out there and just say "Oh I need to ignore this person because his opinion is not in line with mine" that's childish.

 

I recommend either taking time away from this and getting yourself mentally right or focus on the other aspects of TV News that you're passionate about and just stay in that lane because mentally I don't think you're a good fit for at least this portion of the forum (or even on the Discord server for that matter), you can react with all the angry's and the haha's you want to but that's just the truth.

 

And oh by the way there's no such thing as being cheerleaders for this company or that company or a hater of this company or that company it's just that we're calling it the way we all in here collectively see it, whether it's a good opinion, bad opinion, etc, it doesn't matter so for you to label people as "Hearst lovers", "Tegna haters", "Scripps haters" I think is also childish and you need to take that out of your vocabulary too.

 

That's all I got to say if people want to gang up and attack me be my guest but I'm not going to change my approach just because people try to convince that their opinion is better than mine or anyone else's I will gladly respect everyone else's opinions as long as you respect mine and we can all have a good healthy discourse about subjects related to broadcasting because at the end of the day we're all broadcast nerds and we're all here to have fun and have a good lively conversation about things, if that can't happen why would I or anyone else be here partaking on this forum or even on the Discord for that matter.

[mer764KCTV5 213]

1 hour ago, ColtFromGulfcoast said:

If you really wanted to see a show, imagine if theyd have been sold to Sinclair, Apollo or Allen. 

Exactly. They would've destroyed the station.

[mre29 1967]

1 hour ago, ColtFromGulfcoast said:

If you really wanted to see a show, imagine if theyd have been sold to Sinclair, Apollo or Allen. 

 

Or Soo Kim.

 

[Rusty Muck 4688]

On 9/8/2025 at 5:57 PM, mer764KCTV5 said:

So, basically, you think Hearst, wasted MONEY on the "unnecessary" purchase of WBBH and the LMA of WZVN?

I have the second the deal was announced. I'm repeatedly on the record declaring that deal ridiculous and stupid. You cannot change my mind.

On 9/8/2025 at 5:57 PM, mer764KCTV5 said:

Imagine saying that to the face of the Waterman family in 2023 when they sold them off. Hearst is more reliable. Also... At least Hearst isn't dumb and wanted to trash the stations. 

The Watermans are still laughing all the way to the bank at how they got Hearst to spend a quarter of a billion on ONE STATION AND ONE LMA IN A SMALL MARKET IN A STATE WITH NO RELEVANT POLITICAL AD REVENUE.

[dman748 1316]

4 hours ago, Rusty Muck said:

I have the second the deal was announced. I'm repeatedly on the record declaring that deal ridiculous and stupid. You cannot change my mind.

You don't have to change your mind, but we don't have to listen to you either.

[ColtFromGulfcoast 869]

6 hours ago, dman748 said:

You don't have to change your mind, but we don't have to listen to you either.

Especially when you're a grown man handling this in a very inappropriate manner. We are all gonna have different opinions and that's nothing we can't handle but to talk to us in a condescending way makes you look bad. Not to mention going overboard. This isn't even the first time he's done this. 

[MediaZone4K 2661]

EDIT: Can we all take a collective pause and assess the culture of this website. 

 

This is one of the only online discussion boards I've been on where several members regularly feel the need to be sarcastic, condescending and nasty in expressing disagreement and offering corrections. 

 

There has to be a way to articulate disagreement or correct others respectfully.

 

Our super interest in news is esoteric enough, so this should be a forum to connect with people of similar interests. This shouldn't be a place the one-up each other with industry knowledge or belittle others. 

Edited September 11, 2025 by MediaZone4K

[ColtFromGulfcoast 869]

1 hour ago, MediaZone4K said:

Can we all take a collective pause and assess the culture of this website. 

 

This is one of the only online discussion boards I've been where several members regularly feel the need to be sarcastic, condescending and nasty in expressing disagreement.

 

There has to be a way to articulate disagreement respectfully.

 

Our super interest in news is esoteric enough, so this should be a forum to connect with people of similar interests. This shouldn't be a place the one-up each other with industry knowledge or belittle others. 

That part. Could not have said it better. 

 

 

Edited September 10, 2025 by ColtFromGulfcoast

[mer764KCTV5 213]

18 hours ago, Rusty Muck said:

I have the second the deal was announced. I'm repeatedly on the record declaring that deal ridiculous and stupid. You cannot change my mind.

 

I ain't tryin' to change your mind but okay... 

 

18 hours ago, Rusty Muck said:

The Watermans are still laughing all the way to the bank at how they got Hearst to spend a quarter of a billion on ONE STATION AND ONE LMA IN A SMALL MARKET IN A STATE WITH NO RELEVANT POLITICAL AD REVENUE.

 

Southwest Florida isn't a small market, it's more medium sized. Plus, if both parties (In Question, the Waterman family, especially Edith who wanted to sell WBBH and the LMA for WZVN before her 100th birthday; and Hearst) are okay and approve it, it's a deal. Come on, it's a sale that had already been completed, why be so troublesome about it? Plus, Hearst rarely even buys (or sells) stations. Just calm down and appreciate that it wasn't SINCLAIR acquiring them. 

[dman748 1316]

3 hours ago, MediaZone4K said:

Can we all take a collective pause and assess the culture of this website. 

 

This is one of the only online discussion boards I've been where several members regularly feel the need to be sarcastic, condescending and nasty in expressing disagreement.

 

There has to be a way to articulate disagreement respectfully.

 

Our super interest in news is esoteric enough, so this should be a forum to connect with people of similar interests. This shouldn't be a place the one-up each other with industry knowledge or belittle others. 

Spot on, unfortunately, Rusty is going to probably ignore your post and instead target mreKCTV5's post above mine because he would rather continue with the things that should never be a part of the forum and unfortunately the mods aren't going to do a thing about it either.

[Recovering Producer 410]

WFTX to Sun transaction paperwork is up. I didn't see anything out of the ordinary in any of the documents. 

[ns8401 995]

On 9/10/2025 at 1:23 PM, MediaZone4K said:

EDIT: Can we all take a collective pause and assess the culture of this website. 

 

This is one of the only online discussion boards I've been on where several members regularly feel the need to be sarcastic, condescending and nasty in expressing disagreement and offering corrections. 

 

There has to be a way to articulate disagreement or correct others respectfully.

 

Our super interest in news is esoteric enough, so this should be a forum to connect with people of similar interests. This shouldn't be a place the one-up each other with industry knowledge or belittle others. 

What sort of message boards do you go to where everybody is perfectly polite all the time?

[TVLurker 389]

On 9/10/2025 at 1:40 PM, dman748 said:

Spot on, unfortunately, Rusty is going to probably ignore your post and instead target mreKCTV5's post above mine because he would rather continue with the things that should never be a part of the forum and unfortunately the mods aren't going to do a thing about it either.

Reading this. I do not get why Rusty or whatever his name is going to be in a few months is trying to make a point about this one station when it's obvious that the television market is becoming heavily consolidated and no new owners are popping up. It's not like Scripps could make the best out of that station so they took the ball home.

 

If anything, Rusty should actually own a station and feel how hard it is to make a station successful in this market. Just look at the Cadillac, MI failure NewsNet.

[MediaZone4K 2661]

1 hour ago, ns8401 said:

What sort of message boards do you go to where everybody is perfectly polite all the time?

I don't know if you mean to or not but it kind of sounds like you're excusing such behaviors.
 

The last thing I say on this subject is...we're human beings. Rudeness slips out at times. Let's make a better effort to not have the threads devolve into constant condescension and insults.

 

Edited September 12, 2025 by MediaZone4K

[ns8401 995]

On 9/11/2025 at 11:44 PM, MediaZone4K said:

I don't know if you mean to or not but it kind of sounds like you're excusing such behaviors.
 

The last thing I say on this subject is...we're human beings. Rudeness slips out at times. Let's make a better effort to not have the threads devolve into constant condescension and insults.

 

Actually I was genuinely curious. Every single board I’ve ever been on has had some folks like you describe.

[MediaZone4K 2661]

2 hours ago, ns8401 said:

Actually I was genuinely curious. Every single board I’ve ever been on has had some folks like you describe.

In that case, I've been on sites like primetime and daytime tv boards, where there are occasional  (but not as persistent) rude comments and those are very quickly shut down or called out.