GoldenShine9 1513 Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 Getting back to a speculative WMOR swap to Scripps, I would think KIVI or KERO might be close to being an even swap (smaller-market ABC for large-market no-news indie). However, I would imagine the station Scripps would love to give up is WMAR. Hearst wouldn't be able to take WMAR though as it conflicts with WBAL. KERO fits much better staying with Scripps, and Hearst is nowhere to be found in the Northwest either. One swap I could see working is WMOR and KCRA/KQCA to Scripps, WTVF and KJRH to Hearst...looking at geographical footprints, WTVF is a no-brainer as it is isolated in the Scripps portfolio and fits well with Hearst, while KJRH was the next best option open (third place station close to several other Hearst stations). Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14408-sjl-buys-kitv-from-hearst/page/2/#findComment-128334 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenShine9 1513 Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 From my understanding, how the Hearst stations rank (from largest to smallest markets): WCVB - Dominant 1st (pseudo-duopoly with WMUR) WESH - 2nd (duopoly with WKCF) KCRA - 2nd? Not familiar with that market (duopoly with KQCA) WTAE - 2nd WBAL - Dominant 1st KMBC - 2nd? Not sure if KCTV has passed them (duopoly with KCWE) WVTM - Distant 4th WISN - 1st WLWT - 1st? Not sure if it has passed WKRC WYFF - 1st WPBF - 2nd KOCO - 3rd, although fairly close? WGAL - Dominant 1st WXII - 1st KOAT - 2nd? Not familiar with that market WLKY - 3rd WDSU - 2nd KITV - Distant 3rd KCCI - Dominant 1st KETV - 2nd WMTW - 3rd WJCL - Distant 3rd WAPT - 3rd WPTZ - 2nd (also has satellite WNNE) KHBS - Distant 2nd (also has satellite KHOG) KSBW - Uber-dominant 1st Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14408-sjl-buys-kitv-from-hearst/page/2/#findComment-128335 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRolyPoly 2415 Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 I think KCRA is first in most timeslots. WBAL is sometimes second against sometimes dominant WJZ. I think KMBC is still #1 while WKRC, I think, is STILL #1. New Mexico, IMO, is too close to call in the ratings. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14408-sjl-buys-kitv-from-hearst/page/2/#findComment-128336 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamTheJ 90 Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 Hearst wouldn't be able to take WMAR though as it conflicts with WBAL. KERO fits much better staying with Scripps, and Hearst is nowhere to be found in the Northwest either. One swap I could see working is WMOR and KCRA/KQCA to Scripps, WTVF and KJRH to Hearst...looking at geographical footprints, WTVF is a no-brainer as it is isolated in the Scripps portfolio and fits well with Hearst, while KJRH was the next best option open (third place station close to several other Hearst stations). Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14408-sjl-buys-kitv-from-hearst/page/2/#findComment-128337 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamTheJ 90 Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 I could see Scripps buying WMTW. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14408-sjl-buys-kitv-from-hearst/page/2/#findComment-128338 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewsMaster 226 Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 From my understanding, how the Hearst stations rank (from largest to smallest markets): KCRA - 2nd? Not familiar with that market (duopoly with KQCA) Correct. KCRA is right behind KOVR. KOAT - 2nd? Not familiar with that market KOAT is usually first but it's always very close with KOB. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14408-sjl-buys-kitv-from-hearst/page/2/#findComment-128339 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TVIntheDesert 183 Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 WLKY - 3rd I thought WLKY was the top station in Louisville (or, at least, battling for first with WHAS), and that WAVE has dropped to third. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14408-sjl-buys-kitv-from-hearst/page/2/#findComment-128343 Share on other sites More sharing options...
News 9 Viewer 100 Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 WCVB - Dominant 1st (pseudo-duopoly with WMUR) They were for a long time, but not anymore. During the last few sweeps in Boston it's been a three way fight for first between WCVB, WHDH and WFXT. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14408-sjl-buys-kitv-from-hearst/page/2/#findComment-128359 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyrannical bastard 3951 Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 Regardless of where KITV stands in the ratings, there has to be a premium cost of doing business in Hawaii, especially with travel expenses. Hearst figures they would get a better ROI by expanding in the mainland and leaving KITV to someone who would "balance the books...." Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14408-sjl-buys-kitv-from-hearst/page/2/#findComment-128368 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCA TK47 277 Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 Correct. KCRA is right behind KOVR. Not even correct. KCRA has dominated the competition (even when KOVR & KXTV's ratings are combined) for decades. Hearst would have to be nuts to sell KCRA. http://www.kcra.com/blob/view/-/31510680/data/1/-/a8e43iz/-/2015-February-Sweeps.pdf Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14408-sjl-buys-kitv-from-hearst/page/2/#findComment-128377 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRolyPoly 2415 Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 Not even correct. KCRA has dominated the competition (even when KOVR & KXTV's ratings are combined) for decades. Hearst would have to be nuts to sell KCRA. http://www.kcra.com/blob/view/-/31510680/data/1/-/a8e43iz/-/2015-February-Sweeps.pdf I knew it. KCRA is #1 because it was locally owned and operated for decades until sold to Hearst. With Hearst, all KCRA did is ignited more flame and energy into local programming/newscasts. And with a slogan like Where The News Comes First (in which KCRA has used the slogan since December 1958 and trademarked since 1980, all according to Wikipedia) and with former names like Channel 3 Reports / KCRA 3 Reports, KCRA has just been nothing but domination in Sacramento. Pure domination. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14408-sjl-buys-kitv-from-hearst/page/2/#findComment-128380 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrtraveler01 738 Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 I must say if I was at KITV I would be getting my resume ready given SJL's track record. KITV doesn't have to go far, they just have to look at their competitor KHON and see how SJL treated them before they were eventually sold to New Vision. To sum it up: It was getting so bad that Joe Moore almost left KHON solely because he disagreed with how SJL was running things. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14408-sjl-buys-kitv-from-hearst/page/2/#findComment-128387 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickp 337 Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 The transition team brought in to run KHON announced multiple job cuts and other changes that resulted in the mass resignations of the station’s management executives, including General Manager Rick Blangiardi, who went on to lead Hawaii News Now’s KGMB-TV and KHNL-TV Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14408-sjl-buys-kitv-from-hearst/page/2/#findComment-128419 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breaking News 829 Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 @GoldenShine9 some of the ratings in some of these markets are wrong. KCRA has always been hands down #1 in the market. KXTV used to be runner and KOVR followed in third place. However KOVR has challenged KXTV for second place. WLKY hands down is #1 and has challenged WHAS for #1 and have dethrone them as well. WAVE has fallen to third place. Cincinnati WKRC is #1 in all newscast and WLWT has to pass WCPO for second. Despite Scripps woes WCPO is second in all newscast except mornings where it a tight battle but WLWT has posted second. ABQ- KOAT usually #1 and it was a 3-way tie a few years back, so I assume KOAT #1 KOB or KRQE #1??? KETV last time I check they were #1 across the board unless WOWT knocked them out and KMTV has been a third place for a minute. WXII maybe #2, because I thought WFMY was #1 in the Peidmont, and yes ratings can change, but what going on at WFMY? Do they have any Gannett woes/issues??? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14408-sjl-buys-kitv-from-hearst/page/2/#findComment-128424 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRolyPoly 2415 Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 @GoldenShine9 some of the ratings in some of these markets are wrong. KCRA has always been hands down #1 in the market. KXTV used to be runner and KOVR followed in third place. However KOVR has challenged KXTV for second place. WLKY hands down is #1 and has challenged WHAS for #1 and have dethrone them as well. WAVE has fallen to third place. Cincinnati WKRC is #1 in all newscast and WLWT has to pass WCPO for second. Despite Scripps woes WCPO is second in all newscast except mornings where it a tight battle but WLWT has posted second. ABQ- KOAT usually #1 and it was a 3-way tie a few years back, so I assume KOAT #1 KOB or KRQE #1??? KETV last time I check they were #1 across the board unless WOWT knocked them out and KMTV has been a third place for a minute. WXII maybe #2, because I thought WFMY was #1 in the Peidmont, and yes ratings can change, but what going on at WFMY? Do they have and Gannett woes/issues??? KCRA, WLKY, KOAT, KETV and WXII are #1. WLWT is #3, compared to WKRC #1 and WCPO #2. WLKY tightly competes against WHAS while KETV does the same against WOWT and WXII... by a longshot. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14408-sjl-buys-kitv-from-hearst/page/2/#findComment-128426 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkolsen 1684 Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 I can't help but wonder what will happen to those who resign or are layer off. I doubt that even a fraction will or be hired by Hawaii News Now or KHON assuming there are job openings. But I wonder if Raycom has the desire (and money) to create a duopoly to WTTV/WXIN type of situation. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14408-sjl-buys-kitv-from-hearst/page/2/#findComment-128429 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrtraveler01 738 Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 I can't help but wonder what will happen to those who resign or are layer off. I doubt that even a fraction will or be hired by Hawaii News Now or KHON assuming there are job openings. But I wonder if Raycom has the desire (and money) to create a duopoly to WTTV/WXIN type of situation. Raycom already has a duopoly (triopoly if you include the SSA with KFVE) and that came with a lot of controversy, no way they would be able to get KITV too. It'll probably end up being someone like Nexstar or Sinclair. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14408-sjl-buys-kitv-from-hearst/page/2/#findComment-128430 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenShine9 1513 Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 @GoldenShine9 some of the ratings in some of these markets are wrong. KCRA has always been hands down #1 in the market. KXTV used to be runner and KOVR followed in third place. However KOVR has challenged KXTV for second place. WLKY hands down is #1 and has challenged WHAS for #1 and have dethrone them as well. WAVE has fallen to third place. Cincinnati WKRC is #1 in all newscast and WLWT has to pass WCPO for second. Despite Scripps woes WCPO is second in all newscast except mornings where it a tight battle but WLWT has posted second. ABQ- KOAT usually #1 and it was a 3-way tie a few years back, so I assume KOAT #1 KOB or KRQE #1??? KETV last time I check they were #1 across the board unless WOWT knocked them out and KMTV has been a third place for a minute. WXII maybe #2, because I thought WFMY was #1 in the Peidmont, and yes ratings can change, but what going on at WFMY? Do they have and Gannett woes/issues??? Some of them I wasn't sure about. I'm a bit surprised on WLKY, I figured they were #3 due to their channel position and that is often a sign of weakness, unless Hearst really got aggressive with them. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14408-sjl-buys-kitv-from-hearst/page/2/#findComment-128435 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkolsen 1684 Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 Raycom already has a duopoly (triopoly if you include the SSA with KFVE) and that came with a lot of controversy, no way they would be able to get KITV too. It'll probably end up being someone like Nexstar or Sinclair. I meant whether or not Raycom would ever consider operating their duopoly like WTTV/ WXIN where they maintain separate anchor teams/newscasts. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14408-sjl-buys-kitv-from-hearst/page/2/#findComment-128463 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRolyPoly 2415 Posted May 18, 2015 Share Posted May 18, 2015 I meant whether or not Raycom would ever consider operating their duopoly like Tribune's WTTV/WXIN where they maintain separate anchor teams/newscasts. There. That's better. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14408-sjl-buys-kitv-from-hearst/page/2/#findComment-128466 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breaking News 829 Posted May 18, 2015 Share Posted May 18, 2015 Some of them I wasn't sure about. I'm a bit surprised on WLKY, I figured they were #3 due to their channel position and that is often a sign of weakness, unless Hearst really got aggressive with them. No, WLKY has made moves in the last few years, and the Louisville market is probably one of the most competitive markets along with Pittsburgh. WLKY has moved up. It probably a big plus with CBS being on top with their prime-time shows. Here some articles from 2012/2013. I know there a few years old, haven't seen any from 2014/15. WAVE seems to have alot of woes, and WHAS probably has it issues as well. http://www.bizjournals.com/louisville/news/2012/07/30/wlky-tv-wins-majority-of-time-slots-in.html http://insiderlouisville.com/news/two-up-two-down-what-the-february-sweeps-say-about-local-tv-competition/ Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14408-sjl-buys-kitv-from-hearst/page/2/#findComment-128473 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterlingNorth 33 Posted May 18, 2015 Share Posted May 18, 2015 WBAL - Dominant 1st Have things changed in Baltimore since I left? Admittedly, it was back in 2012, but WBAL and WJZ were always locked in a fierce battle for 1st. Though I haven't seen anything on either network since 2012, and it doesn't appear that the Baltimore Sun tracks TV news ratings anymore. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14408-sjl-buys-kitv-from-hearst/page/2/#findComment-128479 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkolsen 1684 Posted May 18, 2015 Share Posted May 18, 2015 WBAL - Dominant 1st Have things changed in Baltimore since I left? Admittedly, it was back in 2012, but WBAL and WJZ were always locked in a fierce battle for 1st. Though I haven't seen anything on either network since 2012, and it doesn't appear that the Baltimore Sun tracks TV news ratings anymore. In the past few years they were strong in different day parts (WJZ in AM and WBAL PM) but in the past year or more I think WBAL won the majority of their timeslots. WBAL in February had the highest number of viewers in all timeslots* and won the demo for everything except for the 4:30 AM, 5:00 AM and 12:00 PM shows. I believe Today and Nightly News have remained on top even though it's been on shaky ground nationally. For what it's worth their sub channel WBAL + / MeTV Baltimore has the highest ratings of ALL classic diginets nationwide. Although they don't report or mention their 10PM newscasts in any of their PoP promos / news releases I have heard that they are neck and neck with WBFF. *this was given through a PoP promo. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14408-sjl-buys-kitv-from-hearst/page/2/#findComment-128487 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samantha 2895 Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 We finally have a purchase price: $21 million. There are some exceptional things in here: a Spectrum Auction Contingency Agreement and an agreement noting that some of the programs KITV airs (Giants games and MeTV) are uplinked at KMBC. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14408-sjl-buys-kitv-from-hearst/page/2/#findComment-128864 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleSeven 1955 Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 As of last Friday (7/10), the sale has been greenlighted. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14408-sjl-buys-kitv-from-hearst/page/2/#findComment-131134 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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