Newscenter5WCVB 29 Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 I can't tell because the bug was in the way but I'm guessing he was going to start talking at 11:01. . [ATTACH=full]2449[/ATTACH] Spot on. The Steve Handelsman live shot was set for 23:01:00/et Now, that time doesn't account for any delays in the transmission. I know, for my station, 23:01:00 means 23:01:03 on our clock. 3 second delay on anything that comes down from network. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14782-here-we-go-again-terrorists-have-struck-paris/page/2/#findComment-139431 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surplus Engineer 38 Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 ABC ran a special report from 730-8pm tonight... WXYZ preempted The List for it.. I don't know if lots of other ABC affiliates picked it up... WDIV aired Jeopardy! At that time which leads me to believe NBC didn't do the same... NBC had several optional special reports on the feeds I was watching yesterday afternoon. They never aired a mandatory special report. If an NBC affiliate was in Jeopardy, they probably wanted the money from the commercial breaks and they probably wanted to avoid pissing off the blue hairs. Fox had two or three optional special reports, each lasting quite a long time. Most Fox affiliates wouldn't have taken it though, mostly because most Fox affiliates take relatively few special reports. Most NBC affiliates take most of the optional special reports. You find some that prefer to toss it on their website and live feed on their app. I saw at least 3 ABC special reports on the feeds I had up. ABC is different than NBC in that they don't have a separate service for special reports and they don't label them optional. It is presumed you will take all of the special reports unless you are in your local news. Some stations will still take them even if they are in their local news. I didn't have any CBS feeds up yesterday so I didn't notice what they were doing. They only do it once every 5-8 years, but with how Fox makes you wire your air chain, if Fox network decides that something is big enough to do a mandatory special report (Level 1), they can and will use the splicer to override you and put themselves on your air, no matter what programming you are in. Yesterday obviously didn't rise to that level. I think the last time they used that was the Japan earthquake and tsunami. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14782-here-we-go-again-terrorists-have-struck-paris/page/2/#findComment-139434 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRob 938 Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 Level-1 cut-ins are rare for FOX. I'm pretty sure FOX can override us, as mentioned above. 99% of FOX's cut-ins are level-2 (optional). In some respects, it's easier for us to do the breaking news ourselves (local anchors talking over whatever live feed is available), because have a good chance of being in a newscast anyway. By the way, KSHB (after NBC cut in prior to 4:00 CST) still led with Gary Pinkel announcing his retirement as Missouri's football coach. The Paris attacks made the end of the A-block on "The Now." Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14782-here-we-go-again-terrorists-have-struck-paris/page/2/#findComment-139436 Share on other sites More sharing options...
24994J 5585 Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 I don't know about others, but WFLD in Chicago, despite their ineptitude, aired almost 3 and a half hours of Fox's special report during the afternoon. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14782-here-we-go-again-terrorists-have-struck-paris/page/2/#findComment-139440 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Journalist 894 Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 CBC in Canada has been on this since the news broke. They interrupted programming sometime before 8 pm ET to carry a speech from the Prime Minister. The National carried on the coverage at 9 pm and went on hourly repeat the entire night, essentially discarding the entire Friday night / early Saturday morning schedule for most if not all CBC affiliates. Late night local news was also dumped in favor for the repeat. CTV, Global and Citytv on the other hand? Besides the flagship news programs, don't even bother asking what they were doing. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14782-here-we-go-again-terrorists-have-struck-paris/page/2/#findComment-139445 Share on other sites More sharing options...
USNewsie 50 Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 I don't know about others, but WFLD in Chicago, despite their ineptitude, aired almost 3 and a half hours of Fox's special report during the afternoon. During events like this when the Fox Broadcasting Network simulcast FNC, do they have different graphics than the not so perfect FNC graphics? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14782-here-we-go-again-terrorists-have-struck-paris/page/2/#findComment-139446 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TriangleTriadMediaNews 267 Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 During events like this when the Fox Broadcasting Network simulcast FNC, do they have different graphics than the not so perfect FNC graphics? Usually FOX affiliates use the same graphics during special events that they do during the State of the Union or a primetime POTUS speech. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14782-here-we-go-again-terrorists-have-struck-paris/page/2/#findComment-139449 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkolsen 1684 Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 Do the other networks have the ability to "force" a special report on air like Fox does? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14782-here-we-go-again-terrorists-have-struck-paris/page/2/#findComment-139450 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weeters 1916 Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 Do the other networks have the ability to "force" a special report on air like Fox does? It's unique to FOX, as far as I know. None of the other networks (that matter) use the "Splicer" setup. The only thing networks can control at a local level at ABC, CBS, and NBC are the bug/ticker inserters (Brandnet, LIDIA, and Namedropper respectively). Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14782-here-we-go-again-terrorists-have-struck-paris/page/2/#findComment-139461 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasTVNews 1377 Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 So far, during today's college football games; CBS, NBC and ABC aired special report/updates on the terror in Paris during halftime. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14782-here-we-go-again-terrorists-have-struck-paris/page/2/#findComment-139462 Share on other sites More sharing options...
USNewsie 50 Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 According to TVNewser, Norah O'Donnell will anchor a special edition of 48 Hours tonight before the Democratic Debate. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14782-here-we-go-again-terrorists-have-struck-paris/page/2/#findComment-139463 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surplus Engineer 38 Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 It's unique to FOX, as far as I know. None of the other networks (that matter) use the "Splicer" setup. Thankfully, this is true. Edit: I think they can also command the affiliate's satellite receivers to switch services and even move a dish depending on setup. That ensures that they can move you between regional feeds for sports. Fox is more of a control freak than any of the other networks when it comes to engineering. They can control all kinds of receiver and air chain settings. They're really anal about making sure THEIR product looks the way they want it to look on your air. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14782-here-we-go-again-terrorists-have-struck-paris/page/2/#findComment-139464 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 1054 Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 I don't know about others, but WFLD in Chicago, despite their ineptitude, aired almost 3 and a half hours of Fox's special report during the afternoon. Technically, since this was a network override event, they didn't have a choice in the matter. They likely would not have broken in at all given their track record, but at least they (the network) did. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14782-here-we-go-again-terrorists-have-struck-paris/page/2/#findComment-139465 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surplus Engineer 38 Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 Technically, since this was a network override event, they didn't have a choice in the matter. They likely would not have broken in at all given their track record, but at least they (the network) did. This was NOT a network override event (a.k.a. level 1 special report). Strictly level 2 (optional). Now it could be that since they're O&O, network could have called them and told them to take it, but I never heard any red box activity warning of a level 1. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14782-here-we-go-again-terrorists-have-struck-paris/page/2/#findComment-139466 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 1054 Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 This was NOT a network override event (a.k.a. level 1 special report). Strictly level 2 (optional). Now it could be that since they're O&O, network could have called them and told them to take it, but I never heard any red box activity warning of a level 1. Okay...cool your jets. There was no standard intro (of any kind) just a hard cut right into FNC's coverage which would suggest a network override, but who knows (or cares really given the subject matter). Had the network called them, one would assume WFLD would have had someone say what was happening and then go with FNC's coverage. It didn't happen that way which is somewhat unusual. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14782-here-we-go-again-terrorists-have-struck-paris/page/2/#findComment-139467 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TriangleTriadMediaNews 267 Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 I was watching Judge Judy on WTTG and the special report cut in during a commercial break. I also receive WRLH (FOX/Richmond) via cable and they continued to air Maury, never saw a special report over there as often as I checked them. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14782-here-we-go-again-terrorists-have-struck-paris/page/2/#findComment-139469 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkolsen 1684 Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 Spot on. The Steve Handelsman live shot was set for 23:01:00/et Now, that time doesn't account for any delays in the transmission. I know, for my station, 23:01:00 means 23:01:03 on our clock. 3 second delay on anything that comes down from network. WBAL's usually spot on and at the moment the clock strikes 10:59:30 the newscast starts. I'm guessing they thought what ever they wrote would fill that time but they didn't. It's unique to FOX, as far as I know. None of the other networks (that matter) use the "Splicer" setup. The only thing networks can control at a local level at ABC, CBS, and NBC are the bug/ticker inserters (Brandnet, LIDIA, and Namedropper respectively). I've read that some of the network hardware may allow the network to change the "channel" they are receiving Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14782-here-we-go-again-terrorists-have-struck-paris/page/2/#findComment-139470 Share on other sites More sharing options...
danderson500 29 Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 wondering if the networks are not going to interrupt football today? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14782-here-we-go-again-terrorists-have-struck-paris/page/2/#findComment-139472 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ns8401 941 Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 wondering if the networks are not going to interrupt football today? What would be a good reason to interrupt it? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14782-here-we-go-again-terrorists-have-struck-paris/page/2/#findComment-139473 Share on other sites More sharing options...
24994J 5585 Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 CBS did an update at halftime, but it was just about 30 seconds and gave a brief overview of the investigation. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14782-here-we-go-again-terrorists-have-struck-paris/page/2/#findComment-139474 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColDayNews 438 Posted November 15, 2015 Author Share Posted November 15, 2015 During events like this when the Fox Broadcasting Network simulcast ,FNC, do they have different graphics than the not so perfect FNC graphics? The graphics are part of FNC's 2010 and 2013 packages. On Fox Broadcast, FNC's "straight-news" anchors (i.e. Patti Anne Browne, Jon Scott, Gregg Jarrett, Bill Hemmer, Arthel Neville, Harris Faulkner, etc.) will anchor an event during the day while Shep anchors for primetime. Some circumstances (such as the Iran nuke deal announcement) will require an FNC simulcast. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14782-here-we-go-again-terrorists-have-struck-paris/page/2/#findComment-139477 Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnya2k6 171 Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 Meanwhile, all three network anchors (Holt, Pelley, Muir) are in Paris and did tonight's newscasts there, as well as Peter Mansbridge (CBC; no sign of Lisa LaFlamme (CTV) or Dawna Friesen (Global), so he's the only Canadian anchor present), Huw Edwards (BBC), Kay Burley (Sky), and Tom Bradby (ITV) on the international front. Oh, and Anderson Cooper, too. A few local anchors may have caught flights to Paris as well; I wouldn't be surprised if Justin Farmer and/or Russ Spencer are already there. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14782-here-we-go-again-terrorists-have-struck-paris/page/2/#findComment-139487 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eat News 4745 Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 Meanwhile, all three network anchors (Holt, Pelley, Muir) are in Paris and did tonight's newscasts there, as well as Peter Mansbridge (CBC; no sign of Lisa LaFlamme (CTV) or Dawna Friesen (Global), so he's the only Canadian anchor present), Huw Edwards (BBC), Kay Burley (Sky), and Tom Bradby (ITV) on the international front. Oh, and Anderson Cooper, too. A few local anchors may have caught flights to Paris as well; I wouldn't be surprised if Justin Farmer and/or Russ Spencer are already there. Is it sweeps in Canada also??? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14782-here-we-go-again-terrorists-have-struck-paris/page/2/#findComment-139501 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Journalist 894 Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 as well as Peter Mansbridge (CBC; no sign of Lisa LaFlamme (CTV) or Dawna Friesen (Global), so he's the only Canadian anchor present) CBC's Mansbridge and CTV's LaFlamme is definitely there, Global's Friesen is not. Is it sweeps in Canada also??? The CTV stations has been airing special promos on their local investigative content so I guess sweeps are in right now? Not sure. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14782-here-we-go-again-terrorists-have-struck-paris/page/2/#findComment-139515 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darius22 122 Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 I don't think they were trying to switch to the WCBS feed, rather the text just shows where the color bars/signal is originating from. WBAL turned to a generic live hit from News Channel a little early and got the the audio of Steve Handelsman talking to his producers. After the producers at WBAL realized it would be a few more seconds before he would start talking they rolled the prefed package. I can't tell because the bug was in the way but I'm guessing he was going to start talking at 11:01. . [ATTACH=full]2449[/ATTACH] oh ok. i remember now. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14782-here-we-go-again-terrorists-have-struck-paris/page/2/#findComment-139534 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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