tjt24 313 Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 Nexstar/MG couldn't even take WTHR since they will own WISH/WNDY, and seeing how WISH seems to be a big station still (despite the news staff leaving the station en masse it seems like), I doubt the new Nexstar would sell WISH anytime soon. And I seen yesterday on FTVLive that their GM Les Vann is now out. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15305-ftv-live-wbns-wthr-being-shopped/page/2/#findComment-158177 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mre29 1537 Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 I'm hoping for Hearst or Meredith, though I could see Cox being interested. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15305-ftv-live-wbns-wthr-being-shopped/page/2/#findComment-158178 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyNewsOpens 83 Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 I'm hoping for Hearst or Meredith, though I could see Cox being interested. I always loved Hearst's open for their stations (the current one AND the one in the 90's-early 00's), which is another hope for me, but I know it's not all news opens. Hopefully the newscasts will be decent if Hearst gets channel 13. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15305-ftv-live-wbns-wthr-being-shopped/page/2/#findComment-158179 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsn1992 25 Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 I always loved Hearst's open for their stations (the current one AND the one in the 90's-early 00's), which is another hope for me, but I know it's not all news opens. Hopefully the newscasts will be decent if Hearst gets channel 13. To be fair, Hearst has been pretty consistently with their stations and news operations. There's a few that don't do so well, but WTHR and WBNS would be nice additions to the resume. Also, Strive (the current Hearst theme) is surprisingly the best station-group mandated news music in my eyes. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15305-ftv-live-wbns-wthr-being-shopped/page/2/#findComment-158183 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColumbusNewsFan 217 Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 Oh god. I hope they do. As I said that is not happening at all. they are running like hell away from it unlike WTHR Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15305-ftv-live-wbns-wthr-being-shopped/page/2/#findComment-158186 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyNewsOpens 83 Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 As I said that is not happening at all. they are running like hell away from it unlike WTHR What is WBNS rated in Columbus ratings anyway? I know WTHR isn't dropping it because their ratings beat everyone else in Indy ten-fold, so it makes me wonder. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15305-ftv-live-wbns-wthr-being-shopped/page/2/#findComment-158187 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRob 938 Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 And I seen yesterday on FTVLive that their GM Les Vann is now out. Not to derail the thread, but I think he's crossing the street to WXIN/WTTV. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15305-ftv-live-wbns-wthr-being-shopped/page/2/#findComment-158190 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Muck 4378 Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 What is WBNS rated in Columbus ratings anyway? I know WTHR isn't dropping it because their ratings beat everyone else in Indy ten-fold, so it makes me wonder. 10TV is still the market leader, followed by ABC6/Fox28, and then NBC4. Been like that for quite awhile. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15305-ftv-live-wbns-wthr-being-shopped/page/2/#findComment-158191 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRob 938 Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 In answer to the ratings questions, WTHR is still way, way out in front in Indianapolis. 5th place? I'm not sure, but it's probably WTTV, due to its weakness in the morning. WBNS is still the ratings leader in Columbus, with WSYX second and WCMH third. But the margin is not nearly as large as WTHR in its market. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15305-ftv-live-wbns-wthr-being-shopped/page/2/#findComment-158192 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Muck 4378 Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 I wonder if there is any bad blood between the Coxes and the Wolfes. The Wolfes were stalwart Republicans, political players. The Coxes were Democrats, but they've been gone for 50 years so it may not matter. I'm pretty sure there's still some serious bad blood between the Wolfes and Scripps. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15305-ftv-live-wbns-wthr-being-shopped/page/2/#findComment-158193 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjt24 313 Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 Not to derail the thread, but I think he's crossing the street to WXIN/WTTV. Oh ok. Just thought I'd point that out... Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15305-ftv-live-wbns-wthr-being-shopped/page/2/#findComment-158195 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyHarry 727 Posted August 23, 2016 Author Share Posted August 23, 2016 What makes you experts think that Cox needs to "dump stations" to "be able to afford" WTHR and WBNS? 1. Family companies don't like to take on debt unlike public companies. It's their inheritance on the line. 2. They sold WTOV and WJAC and a few other stations if I remember correctly in order to buy other stations. It's not a question of whether they can do it or not, it's a question of whether they want to carry on the additional debt. If you have a lot of debt you end up working for the banks instead of for yourself. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15305-ftv-live-wbns-wthr-being-shopped/page/2/#findComment-158196 Share on other sites More sharing options...
who?cares 254 Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 In answer to the ratings questions, WTHR is still way, way out in front in Indianapolis. 5th place? I'm not sure, but it's probably WTTV, due to its weakness in the morning. WBNS is still the ratings leader in Columbus, with WSYX second and WCMH third. But the margin is not nearly as large as WTHR in its market. Last I had checked... TTV had passed WRTV. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15305-ftv-live-wbns-wthr-being-shopped/page/2/#findComment-158197 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyHarry 727 Posted August 23, 2016 Author Share Posted August 23, 2016 Hearst, Meredith, or Cox would definitely be the best options if a major group would take over. TEGNA or Raycom would be fine, but kind of not preferable. All I ask for i please not Nexstar or Sinclair... Please Please Please. (Although since they are near their cap, it could work out just fine where they won't be in the picture.) Underdog pick here, but since the Meredith/MG debacle, I think they may be ready to buy. So I lay my damn dollars on Meredith acquiring these stations. If I am an employee at any of those stations, I would want Cox because Cox is a privately owned company that doesn't have to answer to Wall Street. That makes a huge difference in how employees are treated and just the general turbulence of working with for a public company. You never know when your get bought or sold or merged in a public company. You are also more likely to end up on the chopping block at Christmas time if you find yourself in a Clear Channel type of situation. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15305-ftv-live-wbns-wthr-being-shopped/page/2/#findComment-158198 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToriElectra 292 Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 How about Raycom? They don't seem very, um, odious, and they haven't really done anything lately. They could give their Cleveland duo some companions. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15305-ftv-live-wbns-wthr-being-shopped/page/2/#findComment-158203 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColumbusNewsFan 217 Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 What is WBNS rated in Columbus ratings anyway? I know WTHR isn't dropping it because their ratings beat everyone else in Indy ten-fold, so it makes me wonder. It's the top station in Columbus mainly owning all news cast slots in all time slots Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15305-ftv-live-wbns-wthr-being-shopped/page/2/#findComment-158204 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breaking News 829 Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 10TV is still the market leader, followed by ABC6/Fox28, and then NBC4. Been like that for quite awhile. It been like that for the last 2/3years. WSYX has had a hard climb out of being #3 forever. It been #2 during the mid 70s & parts of the 80s. BNS has held the market, being #1 and several times WCMH has come in either tied for #1 or knocked BNS off it perch for #1 supremacy. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15305-ftv-live-wbns-wthr-being-shopped/page/2/#findComment-158206 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breaking News 829 Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 If I am an employee at any of those stations, I would want Cox because Cox is a privately owned company that doesn't have to answer to Wall Street. That makes a huge difference in how employees are treated and just the general turbulence of working with for a public company. You never know when your get bought or sold or merged in a public company. You are also more likely to end up on the chopping block at Christmas time if you find yourself in a Clear Channel type of situation. I agree Cox is the best broadcasting, but BNS is not Cox material. Yeah, I said it. BNS has been a family owned station for six decades, and they have had it easy. It time for the mom & pop shop to shake it up a little bit. TEGNA is in this station wheelhouse. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15305-ftv-live-wbns-wthr-being-shopped/page/2/#findComment-158207 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardek1995 200 Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 I agree Cox is the best broadcasting, but BNS is not Cox material. Yeah, I said it. BNS has been a family owned station for six decades, and they have had it easy. It time for the mom & pop shop to shake it up a little bit. TEGNA is in this station wheelhouse.I think it is Cox material or Meredith material, but not TEGNA material, that's KFMB. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15305-ftv-live-wbns-wthr-being-shopped/page/2/#findComment-158208 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbnews 344 Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 Turns out Dispatch is not selling it's stations. http://www.ftvlive.com/todays-news/2016/8/23/retraction-dispatch-says-stations-are-not-for-sale Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15305-ftv-live-wbns-wthr-being-shopped/page/2/#findComment-158212 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasTVNews 1377 Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 Sorry folks, but according to FTVLive, Dispatch Broadcast Group is not for sale. Weeters, if your out there; I guess its safe to say this thread is closed. http://www.ftvlive.com/todays-news/2016/8/23/retraction-dispatch-says-stations-are-not-for-sale Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15305-ftv-live-wbns-wthr-being-shopped/page/2/#findComment-158213 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breaking News 829 Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 I think it is Cox material or Meredith material, but not TEGNA material, that's KFMB. We both agree to disagree, but I want Meredith to merge with Hearst. I don't see BNS having the Cox mantra apart of their family friendly brand. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15305-ftv-live-wbns-wthr-being-shopped/page/2/#findComment-158214 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Muck 4378 Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 Sorry folks, but according to FTVLive, Dispatch Broadcast Group is not for sale. Weeters, if your out there; I guess its safe to say this thread is closed. http://www.ftvlive.com/todays-news/2016/8/23/retraction-dispatch-says-stations-are-not-for-sale Pretty powerful retraction on Scott/FTVLive's part. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15305-ftv-live-wbns-wthr-being-shopped/page/2/#findComment-158216 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjt24 313 Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 Sorry folks, but according to FTVLive, Dispatch Broadcast Group is not for sale. Weeters, if your out there; I guess its safe to say this thread is closed. http://www.ftvlive.com/todays-news/2016/8/23/retraction-dispatch-says-stations-are-not-for-sale Well I guess that's that then. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15305-ftv-live-wbns-wthr-being-shopped/page/2/#findComment-158217 Share on other sites More sharing options...
24994J 5585 Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 Twenty bucks say they put'em up for sale within a year. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15305-ftv-live-wbns-wthr-being-shopped/page/2/#findComment-158218 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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