Greggo 356 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 Tegna-itis took hold at KHOU and that’s why KPRC is doing fine now. KHOU hasn't been a serious contender for years ... long before Tegna took over. The real reason is that KTRK isn't the dominant station anymore and has bled a lot of viewers. Most of them wound up at KPRC. Pretty amazing considering a decade ago KPRC's 5 p.m. news was in 5th place, behind the other stations' newscasts AND 'The Simpsons' on KRIV. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16469-may-2018-sweeps-roundup/page/4/#findComment-205587 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorningNews 1455 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 I haven't lived in the market for a few years now but I'm really interested to see what KPRC has changed so much to spark this fire under their numbers. It's obvious what KTRK has done to ruin their dominance. Everything outside of the morning, midday and 4 pm newscast are a wreck. The three anchor late night newscast is silly. Things can change so quickly. 13 dominated for decades straight, 11 challenged them around the mid 2000s but both have now lost lots of momentum. Crazy. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16469-may-2018-sweeps-roundup/page/4/#findComment-205588 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRolyPoly 2449 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 I haven't lived in the market for a few years now but I'm really interested to see what KPRC has changed so much to spark this fire under their numbers. It's obvious what KTRK has done to ruin their dominance. Everything outside of the morning, midday and 4 pm newscast are a wreck. The three anchor late night newscast is silly. Things can change so quickly. 13 dominated for decades straight, 11 challenged them around the mid 2000s but both have now lost lots of momentum. Crazy. So what your saying is that KRIV and KIAH still stink, KHOU is challenging but no avail right now to its ratings, KTRK is still dominant and KPRC is catching up big time to potentially become the new #1 soon. (I don't blame KPRC. Graham Media holds 4 out of 6 #1 stations if you still count WPLG and their operations with Graham. WSLS and WKMG aren't #1 but don't be surprised if they end up doing so in the not too distant future, especially 'KMG.) Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16469-may-2018-sweeps-roundup/page/4/#findComment-205589 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorningNews 1455 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 So what your saying is that KRIV and KIAH still stink, KHOU is challenging but no avail right now to its ratings, KTRK is still dominant and KPRC is catching up big time to potentially become the new #1 soon. (I don't blame KPRC. Graham Media holds 4 out of 6 #1 stations if you still count WPLG and their operations with Graham. WSLS and WKMG aren't #1 but don't be surprised if they end up doing so in the not too distant future, especially 'KMG.) Not quite but almost. KRIV does well in the morning I believe. KHOU isn't very competitive anymore. KTRK is most watched among total viewers but KPRC owns the 25-54 demo. It's a confusing market compared to the days when KTRK used to top the competition combined. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16469-may-2018-sweeps-roundup/page/4/#findComment-205594 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greggo 356 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 I haven't lived in the market for a few years now but I'm really interested to see what KPRC has changed so much to spark this fire under their numbers. It's obvious what KTRK has done to ruin their dominance. Everything outside of the morning, midday and 4 pm newscast are a wreck. The three anchor late night newscast is silly. Things can change so quickly. 13 dominated for decades straight, 11 challenged them around the mid 2000s but both have now lost lots of momentum. Crazy. KPRC ditched the tabloid format, which helped considerably. They also tend to own breaking news coverage. Losing Marvin Zindler and pushing out Dave Ward (among others) just made matters worse for KTRK. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16469-may-2018-sweeps-roundup/page/4/#findComment-205596 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eat News 4745 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 Interesting Chart... I bagged it from Lieberman who must have stole it from some cumulus sales stuff.... Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16469-may-2018-sweeps-roundup/page/4/#findComment-205773 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sendir 194 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 Does anyone have Abilene, TX ratings? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16469-may-2018-sweeps-roundup/page/4/#findComment-205775 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgie56 3307 Posted June 15, 2018 Author Share Posted June 15, 2018 Interesting Chart... I bagged it from Lieberman who must have stole it from some cumulus sales stuff.... [ATTACH=full]6174[/ATTACH] Maybe because there’s a lot to do and see in San Francisco and people don’t want to waste their vacations watching TV all day and night? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16469-may-2018-sweeps-roundup/page/4/#findComment-205777 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eat News 4745 Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 Maybe because there’s a lot to do and see in San Francisco and people don’t want to waste their vacations watching TV all day and night? Yup...You are correct. Plenty of LIVE drama everyday on the streets of the bay area... 6a-10a Wake-Up with the Junkies with Ken and Muffy 10-11am Naked Yoga with Lars (or Liz) 11am-1pm Midday Panhandling and Weather 1pm-2pm This Old Cardboard Box 2pm-3pm Jerry Springer (Final Season...with real knives) 3pm-4pm Steve Wilkos (Free w/ Springer) 5pm-7pm Action News- Stolen Stuff Edition 7pm-8pm Rescue Mission- Reality Adventure Contest 9pm-11pm Intervention or Hoarders (depending on therapy requirements) 11pm Eyewitness News - Narcan Edition 11:35pm Jimmy Kibbles and Bits-Comedy for you and your crusty dog All day....all night 24/7 just look up from that brain sucking smartphone and enjoy all the sights of the city by the bay. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16469-may-2018-sweeps-roundup/page/4/#findComment-205779 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cssimmons 2 Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 Charlotte actually a lot higher on that list than I would have guessed. If only someone was willing to post some sweeps numbers on Queen City.... Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16469-may-2018-sweeps-roundup/page/4/#findComment-205781 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DetroitTVNews 66 Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 Interesting that Detroit is the second-largest market in terms of news viewing levels on that list. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16469-may-2018-sweeps-roundup/page/4/#findComment-205785 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetroCity 248 Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 Viewing Levels: I think people who look at viewing levels as a number on their own without context are missing part of the story. You can’t look at viewing levels alone as part of a 24 hour day by themselves and reach a conclusion. Here’s some admittedly arbitrary math: Sleep time: 8 hours Morning prep time: 2 hours Work time: 8 hours (or more) Round trip commute time: 1.5 hours (Varies by cities. Google it and you’ll see people in cities at the bottom of the viewing hours list spend a lot of time commuting.) So far, that adds up to 19.5 hours, and doesn’t include dinner or other activities like gym, socializing, playing with kids, etc.. Now, suddenly, those 3-5 hours of viewing comprise a lot of someone’s available free time. I don’t think people are watching less because they don’t care. They’re watching less because they have less free time. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16469-may-2018-sweeps-roundup/page/4/#findComment-205798 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eat News 4745 Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 Viewing Levels: I think people who look at viewing levels as a number on their own without context are missing part of the story. You can’t look at viewing levels alone as part of a 24 hour day by themselves and reach a conclusion. Here’s some admittedly arbitrary math: Sleep time: 8 hours Morning prep time: 2 hours Work time: 8 hours (or more) Round trip commute time: 1.5 hours (Varies by cities. Google it and you’ll see people in cities at the bottom of the viewing hours list spend a lot of time commuting.) So far, that adds up to 19.5 hours, and doesn’t include dinner or other activities like gym, socializing, playing with kids, etc.. Now, suddenly, those 3-5 hours of viewing comprise a lot of someone’s available free time. I don’t think people are watching less because they don’t care. They’re watching less because they have less free time. Great! The health reporter doggie introduced logic into the thread. So the largest unmeasured demo that is almost absolute would be....... Maximum Security Prisons Avrg Viewing hours 15 hours per day if you are doing life and not in lockdown (solitary). 6 hrs sleep 1 hour recreation outside 20 mins 3 times a day to eat... And you can poop and watch TV at the same time if your cell is so equipped. Our female and some male anchors here at KBEX-TV still get letters from prisoners who are big fans. There were rumors of an anchor at "another station" who was selling her knickers to a 3rd party (a corrections goon) who ended up re-selling them to the convicts. It's also a captive audience. Don't laugh cuz prisoners buy all kinds of stuff... Cool prison stuff here I will call your attention to the "No shank superflex pen". Lots of demos out there that go unmeasured...lost demo's. feel free to add your favorite unmeasured but absolute demo. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16469-may-2018-sweeps-roundup/page/4/#findComment-205802 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetroCity 248 Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 What a tool. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16469-may-2018-sweeps-roundup/page/4/#findComment-205813 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weeters 1916 Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 [quote name='MetroCity']What a tool.[/QUOTE] I don't believe @Eat News was trying to attack you personally, I think he was just being facetious about the issue. Pittsburgh has pretty brutal commutes too... Ever try to get from the airport to downtown at 4pm? I have, a couple times. Takes forever. The majority of ways in and out of the city are over bridges or through tunnels (or both). The only way to have a good commute working in the city is to live in the city. You basically have to live where you work or you have to go through a choke point. So to say it's simply because people don't have free time isn't entirely accurate. Many of those higher-up cities have brutal commutes. San Francisco and Seattle are huge tech hubs and are full of millenials. That plays a huge role in this report. They're not watching traditional television. It doesn't matter why, they just aren't, and that's not good for broadcast TV. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16469-may-2018-sweeps-roundup/page/4/#findComment-205814 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dman748 1256 Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 [quote name='Weeters']I don't believe @Eat News was trying to attack you personally, I think he was just being facetious about the issue. Pittsburgh has pretty brutal commutes too... Ever try to get from the airport to downtown at 4pm? I have, a couple times. Takes forever. The majority of ways in and out of the city are over bridges or through tunnels (or both). The only way to have a good commute working in the city is to live in the city. You basically have to live where you work or you have to go through a choke point. So to say it's simply because people don't have free time isn't entirely accurate. Many of those higher-up cities have brutal commutes. San Francisco and Seattle are huge tech hubs and are full of millenials. That plays a huge role in this report. They're not watching traditional television. It doesn't matter why, they just aren't, and that's not good for broadcast TV.[/QUOTE] I'd be curious as to what TV habits are like with Gen Z, but I wouldn't be surprised if TV viewing habits with Gen Z be even lower than what it is with Millenials just simply because of the fact that the only thing my generation knows (myself included) is the internet and they'll probably spend more time being on their computers, etc. and less watching traditional TV Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16469-may-2018-sweeps-roundup/page/4/#findComment-205819 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eat News 4745 Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 [quote name='Weeters']I don't believe @Eat News was trying to attack you personally, I think he was just being facetious about the issue. .[/QUOTE] Yup... No harm intended. I like the lil metro doggie...in a non-food way. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16469-may-2018-sweeps-roundup/page/4/#findComment-205821 Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnya2k6 171 Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 Atlanta clocks in at 4 1/2 hours exactly, two minutes more than New York City and Baltimore. But as far as minor markets are concerned...I would say Anchorage, Alaska spends about an hour or so on average while Fairbanks is dead last (sorry, Glendive). Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16469-may-2018-sweeps-roundup/page/4/#findComment-205822 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eat News 4745 Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 San Francisco and Seattle are huge tech hubs and are full of millenials. That plays a huge role in this report. They're not watching traditional television. It doesn't matter why, they just aren't, and that's not good for broadcast TV. Bay Area TV crews will tell you the one thing they always hear in the field, and they have heard it for 50 years.... There is a certain arrogance that seems to go with the statement because people will go out of their way to approach crews and engage in a conversation that always ends the same. "Well I don't even own a TV" ... They will smugly say, thinking it's some badge of honor to be so woke ...even MORE woke then the uber-woken TV crew. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16469-may-2018-sweeps-roundup/page/4/#findComment-205824 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blizzard59 41 Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 There's a small, but discernible, negative correlation between the amount of time people 25-54 watch television and the percentage of people between the ages of 25-54 within the total population of the metropolitan area. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16469-may-2018-sweeps-roundup/page/4/#findComment-205825 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomadcowatbk 149 Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 [quote="Weeters, post: 211747, member: 1" San Francisco and Seattle are huge tech hubs and are full of millenials. That plays a huge role in this report. They're not watching traditional television. It doesn't matter why, they just aren't, and that's not good for broadcast TV. what about the markets full of retirees? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16469-may-2018-sweeps-roundup/page/4/#findComment-205827 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyrannical bastard 3955 Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 Even by casually looking at these numbers, the top markets are those that have traditionally some special affinity to local TV, whether it's a longtime on-air personality, branding, or even a theme song (like WPVI's MCTYW).... Towards the bottom, the younger and hipper people may not even own a TV, much less watch it on a regular basis. These are just based on my instincts.... Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16469-may-2018-sweeps-roundup/page/4/#findComment-205836 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weeters 1916 Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 what about the markets full of retirees? Most retirees are outside of the 25-54 age demo. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16469-may-2018-sweeps-roundup/page/4/#findComment-205838 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkolsen 1684 Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 Bay Area TV crews will tell you the one thing they always hear in the field, and they have heard it for 50 years.... There is a certain arrogance that seems to go with the statement because people will go out of their way to approach crews and engage in a conversation that always ends the same. "Well I don't even own a TV" ... They will smugly say, thinking it's some badge of honor to be so woke ...even MORE woke then the uber-woken TV crew. What irks me is when a tv anchor, personality, or movie star say that. That’s literally their job and they aren’t supporting their profession? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16469-may-2018-sweeps-roundup/page/4/#findComment-205839 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breaking News 829 Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 KHOU hasn't been a serious contender for years ... long before Tegna took over. The real reason is that KTRK isn't the dominant station anymore and has bled a lot of viewers. Most of them wound up at KPRC. Pretty amazing considering a decade ago KPRC's 5 p.m. news was in 5th place, behind the other stations' newscasts AND 'The Simpsons' on KRIV. Said who? Under Belo KHOU was neck to neck with KTRK, and once the sell went through and Gannett/TEGNA got their hooks in KHOU it all went down hill. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16469-may-2018-sweeps-roundup/page/4/#findComment-205841 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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