Jase 1046 Posted April 3, 2023 Share Posted April 3, 2023 (edited) As others have said, nothing ground-breaking. Music is a bit too dramatic for me. Shame the new graphic elements couldn't be fully implemented. Kate seems out of it for some reason. Edited April 3, 2023 by jase 4 Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16640-cnn-the-continuing-soap-opera/page/22/#findComment-284922 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRAP-TV 146 Posted April 3, 2023 Share Posted April 3, 2023 3 hours ago, jase said: As others have said, nothing ground-breaking. Music is a bit too dramatic for me. Shame the new graphic elements couldn't be fully implemented. Kate seems out of it for some reason. Kate didn't look well this morning. I hope she's ok. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16640-cnn-the-continuing-soap-opera/page/22/#findComment-284962 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MediaZone4K 2165 Posted April 3, 2023 Share Posted April 3, 2023 (edited) I was surprised that unlike MSNBC, CNN broke away from Trump's Florida departure to cover other stories. MSNBC temporarily did so just for the southern tornadoes. It's hard to think of recent time where MSNBC has covered something non-Trump/politics related with the exception of severe weather. Edited April 3, 2023 by MediaZone4K 1 Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16640-cnn-the-continuing-soap-opera/page/22/#findComment-284966 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLNewsExpert 453 Posted April 3, 2023 Share Posted April 3, 2023 Does someone have the open? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16640-cnn-the-continuing-soap-opera/page/22/#findComment-284967 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mountainave 600 Posted April 3, 2023 Share Posted April 3, 2023 Initial thoughts: interesting concept. The stand-ups, floor-to-ceiling graphics, and camera pans from one part of the studio to another reminded me of CNN’s election night coverage, which is probably not an accident. Creates a more active and fast-paced feeling. As others have said, no graphics overhaul yet. Lower thirds and bug are all the same. Some elements drawing from the new logo did appear sporadically. Some of the standing felt excessive, though. I almost felt bad for the anchors. I only watched the first 10 minutes but I didn’t see anyone sit down once. Even the panel discussion I saw involved everyone standing and chatting around a table. It was almost distracting. I suspect they will recalibrate some of this over time. 2 Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16640-cnn-the-continuing-soap-opera/page/22/#findComment-284969 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoffrey 858 Posted April 3, 2023 Share Posted April 3, 2023 I'm not sure what I think of the new format. I like the use of graphics on the studio screens that give flat walls an appearance of depth. I like the new music (or at least the retro CNN signature -- the rest felt like generic production music). I'm not a fan of the lack of anchor interaction. There are three anchors but they almost never acknowledge each other. They're all pretty much presenting stories individually. Toward the end, John and Kate discussed March Madness with sports contributor Christine Brennan, but that was it. What's the point of three anchors other than to satisfy previous contractual agreements? John and Kate have worked together in the past (used to co-anchor At This Hour before John went to 9-11am Newsroom, before going to New Day) and have great, sarcastic chemistry, but none of that was seen today. It felt "heavily produced" which I actually don't like, especially for a daytime newscast. I wonder how well equipped they will be at handling unexpected stories if they don't have maps, graphics and camera shots planned in advance. Will they be slower? Also felt like fewer panels or discussions with experts with a greater focus on live reporters in the field. More reporting is good but I think cable news viewers have become accustomed to panels/debates. The whole broadcast overall felt kind of lifeless, and I'm a fan of these three anchors. 1 1 Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16640-cnn-the-continuing-soap-opera/page/22/#findComment-284970 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 1046 Posted April 3, 2023 Share Posted April 3, 2023 I think interactions between the anchors will come with time. It’s a new format that everyone will have to get use to. I guess (hope) they get a chance to sit down off camera because standing for 3 hrs is a pain. Honestly, I’m glad there were no panels or political discussions. I know that’s their bread and butter, but viewers can get that elsewhere. I rather they focus on the news during these two 3 hr. blocks. I agree the show appeared too scripted, but that’s an easy fix. I’m interested in seeing how things will go when there’s breaking news (I.e… will they wheel in a desk and chairs for the anchors, etc…). Overall, not too bad. 2 Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16640-cnn-the-continuing-soap-opera/page/22/#findComment-284972 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvfan91 1 Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 (edited) Does anyone know what font is used for the logotype? Edited April 4, 2023 by tvfan91 Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16640-cnn-the-continuing-soap-opera/page/22/#findComment-285011 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgie56 3303 Posted April 5, 2023 Share Posted April 5, 2023 Damning bombshell from Variety about Don Lemon’s conduct toward women at the network. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16640-cnn-the-continuing-soap-opera/page/22/#findComment-285145 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Action Newsroom 1277 Posted April 5, 2023 Share Posted April 5, 2023 41 minutes ago, Georgie56 said: Damning bombshell from Variety about Don Lemon’s conduct toward women at the network. Damming indeed. That is some gross, salacious, embarrassing and unconscionable behavior lead by an inflated ego and a self-serving drive for more airtime. And the fact that executives at the time of these communications just let him off the hook each time is just as terrible. If this won't lead to his termination or resignation from the network, nothing will. 1 Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16640-cnn-the-continuing-soap-opera/page/22/#findComment-285147 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvtime07 252 Posted April 5, 2023 Share Posted April 5, 2023 1 hour ago, Action Newsroom said: Damming indeed. That is some gross, salacious, embarrassing and unconscionable behavior lead by an inflated ego and a self-serving drive for more airtime. And the fact that executives at the time of these communications just let him off the hook each time is just as terrible. If this won't lead to his termination or resignation from the network, nothing will. It's indeed sad. I've never been a fan of Lemon just from how he presents himself on television, I always found him as arrogant and annoying at times. His style of reporting is why I don't appreciate the state of cable news. This Variety article just confirms he is a toxic person to work with as well. I was really surprised when he wasn't let go last year, but with CNN This Morning's ratings in the toilet, CNN should cut their losses with Lemon. 3 Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16640-cnn-the-continuing-soap-opera/page/22/#findComment-285149 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newsjunkie24 506 Posted April 5, 2023 Share Posted April 5, 2023 Don's always struck me as a bit arrogant of times. I agree with his political opinions, but there was always something that rubbed me the wrong way. The fact they kept him and got rid of the likable and no baggage Robin Meade upset me in a way. Her ratings were always better than anything CNN's done with mornings over the past decade. If I was in Licht's shoes, I'd bring back Robin and the Morning Express crew, perhaps in a different place than Atlanta. CNN This Morning isn't bad, but the ratings won't increase until Don is fired or resigns at this point. 4 Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16640-cnn-the-continuing-soap-opera/page/22/#findComment-285151 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoffrey 858 Posted April 6, 2023 Share Posted April 6, 2023 I generally have not been a fan of Don's for a while. He definitely seems to crave the spotlight in a way that is really irritating to me. I was shocked that he was tapped to headline the new morning show, especially over signs the network was trying to appease Republicans while also cutting back on drama. Don seems tired in the morning and just seems even less sharp than he was in primetime and adds little substance to any conversation. He is easily outshined by Poppy and Kaitlan. Don may be, dare I say it?, past his prime. I do want to correct something Variety twice claimed in the article, including here: Quote It appears to be the last time he was paired with a female anchor until his most recent assignment on “CNN This Morning With Don Lemon, Poppy Harlow and Kaitlan Collins.” When CNN hired Alisyn Camerota but didn't know where to put her at first, she was paired with Don for a time on CNN Tonight. It might have only lasted a few weeks or months but it was permanent enough for both anchors' names to have been on the show's logo. (Alisyn would go on to bump Kate Bolduan as Chris Cuomo's New Day co-anchor.) Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16640-cnn-the-continuing-soap-opera/page/22/#findComment-285181 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daybreak 288 Posted April 6, 2023 Share Posted April 6, 2023 I read the report and now I’m more confused and concerned as to why was this allowed to go on for so long unchecked. There’s been a few time his ratings were subpar so why not get rid of him then? This seems like a set up to an ouster. 1 Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16640-cnn-the-continuing-soap-opera/page/22/#findComment-285182 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MediaZone4K 2165 Posted April 6, 2023 Share Posted April 6, 2023 17 hours ago, Daybreak said: I read the report and now I’m more confused and concerned as to why was this allowed to go on for so long unchecked. There’s been a few time his ratings were subpar so why not get rid of him then? This seems like a set up to an ouster. Once again broadcast news proves itself to be a hotbed of inflated egos and back biting. Sucks. Never been a fan of Lemon's. This confirms things. 1 Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16640-cnn-the-continuing-soap-opera/page/22/#findComment-285200 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBC 5 Chicago 191 Posted April 6, 2023 Share Posted April 6, 2023 Take this with a grain of salt but Radar is saying Kaitlan Collins is moving to the 9pm slot temporarily as a trial starting next week . If true, sure adds more fuel to the fire. I quite enjoy Katilan Collins. I like her style and she seems very well connected to get the scoop on a lot of things. As for Don Lemon, I liked him when he was here at WMAQ in Chicago but I would agree I feel his ego has been inflated too big and he comes across pompous and arrogant most of the time. While I'll typically agree with his views its his delivery that I don't quite enjoy. I tried watching CNN this morning. I enjoy Poppy and Kaitlan more than Don. 1 Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16640-cnn-the-continuing-soap-opera/page/22/#findComment-285206 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 1046 Posted April 6, 2023 Share Posted April 6, 2023 (edited) 19 hours ago, Geoffrey said: I do want to correct something Variety twice claimed in the article, including here: When CNN hired Alisyn Camerota but didn't know where to put her at first, she was paired with Don for a time on CNN Tonight. It might have only lasted a few weeks or months but it was permanent enough for both anchors' names to have been on the show's logo. (Alisyn would go on to bump Kate Bolduan as Chris Cuomo's New Day co-anchor.) Worth noting is that Don was on with Alisyn this past Tuesday on CNN Tonight, so it would appear that they don't have a issue working together. Pairing him with Poppy and Kaitlan was shocking, for a lot of reasons, and they have zero chemistry that will never get better. The oddest trio there is. 19 hours ago, Daybreak said: I read the report and now I’m more confused and concerned as to why was this allowed to go on for so long unchecked. There’s been a few time his ratings were subpar so why not get rid of him then? This seems like a set up to an ouster. Unfortunately, being a jerk and creating a hostile work environment wasn't a big deal then as it is now. Plus, given that management was always going to side with him no matter what; he no doubt felt he could say/do whatever. Now it appears he is on very thin ice so his ouster or another re-assignment 'could' be imminent. 23 minutes ago, NBC 5 Chicago said: Take this with a grain of salt but Radar is saying Kaitlan Collins is moving to the 9pm slot temporarily as a trial starting next week . If true, sure adds more fuel to the fire. I quite enjoy Katilan Collins. I like her style and she seems very well connected to get the scoop on a lot of things. As for Don Lemon, I liked him when he was here at WMAQ in Chicago but I would agree I feel his ego has been inflated too big and he comes across pompous and arrogant most of the time. While I'll typically agree with his views its his delivery that I don't quite enjoy. I tried watching CNN this morning. I enjoy Poppy and Kaitlan more than Don. I feel like having her in an anchor/host role isn't the best use of her skills. She is much better reporting than anchoring. Edited April 6, 2023 by jase Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16640-cnn-the-continuing-soap-opera/page/22/#findComment-285207 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mre29 1514 Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 Meanwhile, HLN, which has been showing older Warner Bros. TV dramas on weekends -- first The West Wing, now Fringe -- has expanded that to weeknights, with Third Watch now showing at a rate of four episodes per night (8:00pm to midnight, ET). I mention it despite not being sure this is the correct thread anymore for discussing HLN. I mean, does the channel even fall under Licht's purview outside of simulcasting CNN This Morning? Do we have to move this discussion to the Breakroom? 1 Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16640-cnn-the-continuing-soap-opera/page/22/#findComment-285277 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 1046 Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 3 hours ago, mre29 said: Meanwhile, HLN, which has been showing older Warner Bros. TV dramas on weekends -- first The West Wing, now Fringe -- has expanded that to weeknights, with Third Watch now showing at a rate of four episodes per night (8:00pm to midnight, ET). I mention it despite not being sure this is the correct thread anymore for discussing HLN. I mean, does the channel even fall under Licht's purview outside of simulcasting CNN This Morning? Do we have to move this discussion to the Breakroom? I believe overall oversight of HLN is now under Kathleen Finch (WBD US Networks Group chair) with Jason Sarlanis handling the programming side of things. 1 Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16640-cnn-the-continuing-soap-opera/page/22/#findComment-285280 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mountainave 600 Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 (edited) Can’t make any inferences based off of one night for an experimental show she essentially guest hosted. But a win for sure. Edited April 11, 2023 by mountainave Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16640-cnn-the-continuing-soap-opera/page/22/#findComment-285319 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mre29 1514 Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 I've gone ahead and started a Speculatron thread for HLN. As Daleks would say, SPEC-U-LATE!! 1 Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16640-cnn-the-continuing-soap-opera/page/22/#findComment-285324 Share on other sites More sharing options...
anchorman 94 Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 On 4/3/2023 at 12:52 PM, mountainave said: Initial thoughts: interesting concept. The stand-ups, floor-to-ceiling graphics, and camera pans from one part of the studio to another reminded me of CNN’s election night coverage, which is probably not an accident. Creates a more active and fast-paced feeling. As others have said, no graphics overhaul yet. Lower thirds and bug are all the same. Some elements drawing from the new logo did appear sporadically. Some of the standing felt excessive, though. I almost felt bad for the anchors. I only watched the first 10 minutes but I didn’t see anyone sit down once. Even the panel discussion I saw involved everyone standing and chatting around a table. It was almost distracting. I suspect they will recalibrate some of this over time. I’m glad you said *almost* feel bad for the anchors. Doctors, teachers, etc. stand for 8-12 hours a day and don’t get paid millions of dollars to do so. 1 Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16640-cnn-the-continuing-soap-opera/page/22/#findComment-285414 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mountainave 600 Posted April 14, 2023 Share Posted April 14, 2023 6 hours ago, anchorman said: I’m glad you said *almost* feel bad for the anchors. Doctors, teachers, etc. stand for 8-12 hours a day and don’t get paid millions of dollars to do so. I’m aware. I fit into one of those categories. 1 Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16640-cnn-the-continuing-soap-opera/page/22/#findComment-285426 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraigViewer 77 Posted April 14, 2023 Share Posted April 14, 2023 (edited) Has CNN decided to not use Laura Coates as anchor of the 11pm EST hour of "CNN Tonight?" Just a few months ago, she was named host of the second hour, but I don't see her anchoring in that time slot regularly. Edited April 14, 2023 by CraigViewer Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16640-cnn-the-continuing-soap-opera/page/22/#findComment-285433 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCoast 12 Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 Laura Coates’ Sirius XM show recently switched from 3-6pm ET to 7-9am ET. I think this might be a factor into why we haven’t seen Laura on air as much. 7-9am and 11pm-midnight would be a very long day, Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16640-cnn-the-continuing-soap-opera/page/22/#findComment-285474 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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