The Ever-Evolving Gray Graphics Situation...Thread

[EricTheEnthusiast 39]

On 4/18/2022 at 4:23 PM, Wildish said:

WVUE being such a strong market leader deserved better. This is worse than WGNO's package. Basic, Bland, Boring. Tegna looks better than this even. They should have stayed with Raycom's graphics if they couldn't do better.

 

I've been holding back on commenting on the new WVUE graphics since it launched just to see what improvements or modifications would be made as usually once a package hits the air you see stations make a few tweaks to better fit the product and process. However, they've been saddled with technical issues and other mistakes that continue to this day (over a month in). Does anyone know what's going on? Specifically:

- they can't get through a newscast (or usually even a segment) without a mismatch between graphics, video, and story (happens all the time during the opening teases or the coming up teases)

- they can't get through a newscast (or usually even a segment) without an audio issue (you constantly hear an anchor start talking in the distance several seconds before their mic is brought up)

- the graphics seem to fire randomly, interrupting stories or live reports

- commercials inadvertently start during newscasts, and the talent seem unaware (during the weather hit, a commercial and a half played and David Bernard was still going as if he had no idea)

- yesterday during a weather hit in the 7am hour, the screen went black for about 2 minutes and came back to Nicondra doing her weather hit unaware (seen on both YouTube TV and my OTA DVR)

 

Before the graphics change, WVUE was on par with some of the national outlets, mistake-free and very well-produced. Now they're lucky to go a segment without a glitch of one sort or another. I feel bad for everyone that's there, you know they don't want this. But what is going on?

[sanewsguy 511]

25 minutes ago, EricTheEnthusiast said:

I've been holding back on commenting on the new WVUE graphics since it launched just to see what improvements or modifications would be made as usually once a package hits the air you see stations make a few tweaks to better fit the product and process. However, they've been saddled with technical issues and other mistakes that continue to this day (over a month in). Does anyone know what's going on? Specifically:

- they can't get through a newscast (or usually even a segment) without a mismatch between graphics, video, and story (happens all the time during the opening teases or the coming up teases)

- they can't get through a newscast (or usually even a segment) without an audio issue (you constantly hear an anchor start talking in the distance several seconds before their mic is brought up)

- the graphics seem to fire randomly, interrupting stories or live reports

- commercials inadvertently start during newscasts, and the talent seem unaware (during the weather hit, a commercial and a half played and David Bernard was still going as if he had no idea)

- yesterday during a weather hit in the 7am hour, the screen went black for about 2 minutes and came back to Nicondra doing her weather hit unaware (seen on both YouTube TV and my OTA DVR)

 

Before the graphics change, WVUE was on par with some of the national outlets, mistake-free and very well-produced. Now they're lucky to go a segment without a glitch of one sort or another. I feel bad for everyone that's there, you know they don't want this. But what is going on?

Sounds to me like the TDs aren’t used to automation!

[CircleSeven 1955]

1 hour ago, pinghawi said:

Is WOWT changing it's graphics to the WMC graphics package?

This question comes up because on the station's website, there a background on the header that looks similar to that graphic pack.

 

Don't know if or when a graphic change will be in effect. Probably won't happen until after the station moves down the street to Blackstone (Kiewit) Plaza.

 

[Yankees4life 559]

2 hours ago, CircleSeven said:

This question comes up because on the station's website, there a background on the header that looks similar to that graphic pack.

 

Don't know if or when a graphic change will be in effect. Probably won't happen until after the station moves down the street to Blackstone (Kiewit) Plaza.

 

That...doesn't make any sense they already had a graphics change

[CircleSeven 1955]

2 hours ago, Yankees4life said:

That...doesn't make any sense they already had a graphics change

Hold the phone. When they last switched to the current (WVLT) pack? 2019?

 

Edited June 2, 2022 by CircleSeven

[Yankees4life 559]

2 hours ago, CircleSeven said:

Hold the phone. When they last switched to the current (WVLT) pack? 2019?

 

Yep. That is it

[patrickhuber100 1]

WEEK here in Peoria looks to have switched their weather department over to the standard Gray pack. Expect a full graphics changeover in the coming weeks. They would be the first ex-Quincy station to do so. 

[GoldenShine9 1513]

I figured the ex-Quincy stations would be next. As far as the ex-Meredith stations, they are similar enough that I suspect they will be retained until another Gray package comes along later.

[ATLNewsExpert 455]

I know this is probably a lost cause considering Fairbanks is one of the smallest markets in the nation but when on earth is Gray going to do something with KTVF and sister station KXDF?? Seriously they've owned the stations since 2017 and have yet to do ANYTHING, no new sets or graphics yet KTVF is using the WMC graphics for weather, heck both are not even in HD yet!

[ABC 7 Denver 1717]

49 minutes ago, ATLNewsExpert said:

I know this is probably a lost cause considering Fairbanks is one of the smallest markets in the nation but when on earth is Gray going to do something with KTVF and sister station KXDF?? Seriously they've owned the stations since 2017 and have yet to do ANYTHING, no new sets or graphics yet KTVF is using the WMC graphics for weather, heck both are not even in HD yet!

 

Unlikely they'll do anything.

[newsn8te 200]

Remember when Gray tried to recreate WABC’s old look? Looking at this and seeing the Beehive graphics, it’s clear that Gray really needs a new graphics department. 

 

 

[CarolinaWxGuy 25]

 Looks like KCBD/KJTV finally switched over.

[Working4You 40]

Speaking of KKTV in Colorado Springs.... Looks like they just went through a logo revamp. 

[ABC 7 Denver 1717]

5 hours ago, Working4You said:

Speaking of KKTV in Colorado Springs.... Looks like they just went through a logo revamp. 

 

Wow. Bland and uninteresting.

 

In action, sort of:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIjPxDHIgQ4

Edited June 29, 2022 by ABC 7 Denver

[noggi 604]

Oh wow... that's really bad.

[qunewsguy 377]

46 minutes ago, noggi said:

Oh wow... that's really bad.

It's so bad the video was pulled offline LOL

[ABC 7 Denver 1717]

Well, here's 

1 hour ago, qunewsguy said:

It's so bad the video was pulled offline LOL

 

Nah. I just cut of the link. It's fixed now.

[ttvn2000 320]

A TEGNA-inspired logo with cruddy Gray graphics…. Marvelous.

[T.L. Hughes 890]

KOLN/KGIN, KSNB and KNOP have all debuted new graphics. In the cases of KSNB and KNOP, both have switched to different flat variants of the “honeycomb” package.

 

KOLN/KGIN:

 

KSNB (note that the bottom-of-screen ID has KSNB’s city of license, York, listed where its callsign is supposed to be):

 

KNOP:

 

[froyo49 230]

15 minutes ago, T.L. Hughes said:

KOLN/KGIN, KSNB and KNOP have all debuted new graphics. In the cases of KSNB and KNOP, both have switched to different flat variants of the “honeycomb” package.

Took them long enough to make a flat package. Maybe there is hope for Gray’s graphics hub

[phillynewslover 134]

The KOLN graphics are really growing on me. For Gray graphics, they're terrific. Probably up there with the WOIO package, and the Meredith package (although technically that isn't Gray).

[ATLNewsExpert 455]

7 hours ago, T.L. Hughes said:

KOLN/KGIN, KSNB and KNOP have all debuted new graphics. In the cases of KSNB and KNOP, both have switched to different flat variants of the “honeycomb” package.

 

KOLN/KGIN:

 

KSNB (note that the bottom-of-screen ID has KSNB’s city of license, York, listed where its callsign is supposed to be):

 

KNOP:

 

The KOLN graphics aren't that bad for Gray standards, in fact their quite good. Perhaps WGCL and the Meredith stations will get something similar (likely in WGCL'S case,  new graphics and a rebrand might be in store with the new upcoming set )

[GoldenShine9 1513]

The honeycomb seems to be the small-market Gray package.

[who?cares 254]

I don't mind any of the three above. For smaller markets they're actually good, and look far better than the WWSB / WAFF package.

For the sake of show pacing,  I appreciate the updated honeycomb open.

[evv_mlis 22]

WFIE is taking an interesting approach and using their new honeycomb graphics for 95% of news; for high school football coverage, they are using the WMC style lower thirds and colors.