ABC 7 Denver 1712 Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 2 hours ago, Myron Falwell said: Gray CW affiliates could plug in whatever’s airing on Circle or go the local news route, depending on market size. Or backfill with cheapo syndication like MyTV as an interim. Their local stations are so understaffed that they are already as stretched as they can be. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/19111-nexstar-acquires-75-of-the-cw/page/8/#findComment-282129 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Muck 4366 Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 29 minutes ago, ABC 7 Denver said: Their local stations are so understaffed that they are already as stretched as they can be. What’s to say they can’t do the Memorex treatment like Scripps is? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/19111-nexstar-acquires-75-of-the-cw/page/8/#findComment-282130 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABC 7 Denver 1712 Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 22 minutes ago, Myron Falwell said: What’s to say they can’t do the Memorex treatment like Scripps is? Scripps can build more new content than Gray. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/19111-nexstar-acquires-75-of-the-cw/page/8/#findComment-282133 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horizon 262 Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 4 hours ago, Myron Falwell said: I’d be surprised if you don’t see Gray, Scripps, Sinclair and CBS just cut ties with the CW outright. Not because of LIV but because those groups all have their own in-house options to replace the primetime block. LIV merely greased the skids. I mean, I'm pretty sure that the stations news ops. talked about what happened with the Washington Post murder. So imagine a few years later they promote the Saudi-funded golf games.....you would see a field day of people calling them out. So if they don't want to suffer the price of the affiliation motherlord's dark ambitions....this is the way to go. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/19111-nexstar-acquires-75-of-the-cw/page/8/#findComment-282134 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew 149 Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 I would be surprised if Paramount cut ties with CW on their stations. I bet the sale of the network to Nexstar it had something about not pulling the affiliation for a certain length of time or something similar. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/19111-nexstar-acquires-75-of-the-cw/page/8/#findComment-282135 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Muck 4366 Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 (edited) 10 hours ago, Drew said: I would be surprised if Paramount cut ties with CW on their stations. I bet the sale of the network to Nexstar it had something about not pulling the affiliation for a certain length of time or something similar. There actually exists legitimate provisions in affiliate contracts in case the network was ever sold (no, I do not have them on hand, but it was discussed on Discord a few months ago). Despite the nominal 12.5% stake, Paramount really doesn’t need the CW anymore. Edited January 21, 2023 by Myron Falwell Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/19111-nexstar-acquires-75-of-the-cw/page/8/#findComment-282138 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLETVFan 367 Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 8 hours ago, Myron Falwell said: There actually exists legitimate provisions in affiliate contracts in case the network was ever sold (no, I do not have them on hand, but it was discussed on Discord a few months ago). Despite the nominal 12.5% stake, Paramount really doesn’t need the CW anymore. Both Paramount and Warner Bros Discovery have their own streaming services. They both don't need The CW at all. "All American" can easily move to either of the services. 3 Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/19111-nexstar-acquires-75-of-the-cw/page/8/#findComment-282146 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyrannical bastard 3933 Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 And with Nexstar's streaming service they can...... ...oh wait... 6 Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/19111-nexstar-acquires-75-of-the-cw/page/8/#findComment-282147 Share on other sites More sharing options...
channel2 978 Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 2 hours ago, CLETVFan said: Both Paramount and Warner Bros Discovery have their own streaming services. They both don't need The CW at all. "All American" can easily move to either of the services. Wouldn't the profit participants have something to say about that? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/19111-nexstar-acquires-75-of-the-cw/page/8/#findComment-282149 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVVTV12 141 Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 3 hours ago, tyrannical bastard said: And with Nexstar's streaming service they can...... ...oh wait... Streaming? That’s just a fad. Betamax, that is the future. 6 Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/19111-nexstar-acquires-75-of-the-cw/page/8/#findComment-282150 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyrannical bastard 3933 Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 15 minutes ago, EVVTV12 said: Streaming? That’s just a fad. Betamax, that is the future. ...and be sure to put us in your top 8 on Myspace! And for breaking news updates 24 hours a day, call our breaking news hotline...just 99 cents a minute! 5 Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/19111-nexstar-acquires-75-of-the-cw/page/8/#findComment-282151 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nathannah 2402 Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 4 hours ago, CLETVFan said: Both Paramount and Warner Bros Discovery have their own streaming services. They both don't need The CW at all. "All American" can easily move to either of the services. It's part of the CW's old Netflix deal so it would easily move there without issue. I do think that Nexstar only really renewed not based on the loyalty of the show (which is great since it has a just as loyal spin-off), but to avoid minority scrutiny if they didn't have a 'black' show somewhere. This is a company that's had major issues with their minority-owned shells, after all. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/19111-nexstar-acquires-75-of-the-cw/page/8/#findComment-282153 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEOMatrix 1299 Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 On 1/20/2023 at 7:28 PM, Myron Falwell said: Gray CW affiliates could plug in whatever’s airing on Circle or go the local news route, depending on market size. Or backfill with cheapo syndication like MyTV as an interim. ie… WUAB could go back to its pre-CW scheduling (CLE43 II: Electric Boogaloo). 2 1 Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/19111-nexstar-acquires-75-of-the-cw/page/8/#findComment-282154 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nathannah 2402 Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 32 minutes ago, NEOMatrix said: ie… WUAB could go back to its pre-CW scheduling (CLE43 II: Electric Boogaloo). The Mannix and Cannon fans who have their shows pre-empted on WOIO's .2 would love this to happen. Of all the places to burn off MyNet, why choose the Me sub? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/19111-nexstar-acquires-75-of-the-cw/page/8/#findComment-282155 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyrannical bastard 3933 Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 IF The CW bolts WUAB for WJW 8.2 (or even, heaven forbid, Nexstar buys WBNX to make them a CW O&O)....WUAB would probably morph into 19+, since it's basically been the overrun station for WOIO, and the patent disregard of WUAB itself goes all the way back to Raycom... It's best hope now is to be a news-intensive station to compete against WJW. Then again, if WUAB gets stripped of the CW for WJW, it would leave BOTH WUAB and WBNX without affiliations. The upfronts are going to be REAL interesting this spring....what will Nexstar have up it's sleeve? 1 1 Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/19111-nexstar-acquires-75-of-the-cw/page/8/#findComment-282156 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLETVFan 367 Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 12 hours ago, tyrannical bastard said: IF The CW bolts WUAB for WJW 8.2 (or even, heaven forbid, Nexstar buys WBNX to make them a CW O&O)....WUAB would probably morph into 19+, since it's basically been the overrun station for WOIO, and the patent disregard of WUAB itself goes all the way back to Raycom... It's best hope now is to be a news-intensive station to compete against WJW. Then again, if WUAB gets stripped of the CW for WJW, it would leave BOTH WUAB and WBNX without affiliations. The upfronts are going to be REAL interesting this spring....what will Nexstar have up it's sleeve? WBNX does have better programming than WUAB right now. It will be interesting to see what 43 would plan in case the CW moves to 8.2 (or, less likely, 8.1 to displace Fox). Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/19111-nexstar-acquires-75-of-the-cw/page/8/#findComment-282163 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelson R. 569 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 23 hours ago, tyrannical bastard said: IF The CW bolts WUAB for WJW 8.2 (or even, heaven forbid, Nexstar buys WBNX to make them a CW O&O)....WUAB would probably morph into 19+, since it's basically been the overrun station for WOIO, and the patent disregard of WUAB itself goes all the way back to Raycom... It's best hope now is to be a news-intensive station to compete against WJW. Then again, if WUAB gets stripped of the CW for WJW, it would leave BOTH WUAB and WBNX without affiliations. The upfronts are going to be REAL interesting this spring....what will Nexstar have up it's sleeve? Could also see CW move to WGHP 8.2 and WNCN 11.2. WCWG would become an Indy and could change calls. MyNet could move to WLFL and WRDC could be sold off or maybe Charge could take over 28.1. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/19111-nexstar-acquires-75-of-the-cw/page/8/#findComment-282181 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Muck 4366 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 On 1/21/2023 at 11:16 PM, mrschimpf said: The Mannix and Cannon fans who have their shows pre-empted on WOIO's .2 would love this to happen. Of all the places to burn off MyNet, why choose the Me sub? WOIO-WUAB's MyNet contract is the Bobby Bonilla of Cleveland television affiliation deals. On 1/21/2023 at 11:55 PM, tyrannical bastard said: IF The CW bolts WUAB for WJW 8.2 (or even, heaven forbid, Nexstar buys WBNX to make them a CW O&O)....WUAB would probably morph into 19+, since it's basically been the overrun station for WOIO, and the patent disregard of WUAB itself goes all the way back to Raycom... It's best hope now is to be a news-intensive station to compete against WJW. Then again, if WUAB gets stripped of the CW for WJW, it would leave BOTH WUAB and WBNX without affiliations. The upfronts are going to be REAL interesting this spring....what will Nexstar have up it's sleeve? Moving the CW to a WJW sub would be smart. Unfortunately, this is Nexstar, and they'd probably wind up dumping the Fox affiliation for the CW. 2 Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/19111-nexstar-acquires-75-of-the-cw/page/8/#findComment-282183 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Muck 4366 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 On 1/21/2023 at 9:30 PM, EVVTV12 said: Streaming? That’s just a fad. Betamax, that is the future. "Why do people want those darn videotape players? It's stealing our content and a chance for us to make even money" -- Perry Sook, found of Nexstar International Telephone, Telegraph and Phonograph 4 Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/19111-nexstar-acquires-75-of-the-cw/page/8/#findComment-282184 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megatron81 256 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 I'll check out LIV Golf to see if it's good or not I don't like that LIV Golf is Saudi backed. I think whatever local The CW airs on weekend syndication will be moved in the early morning hours or late night hours in my opinion. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/19111-nexstar-acquires-75-of-the-cw/page/8/#findComment-282186 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyrannical bastard 3933 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 6 hours ago, Myron Falwell said: WOIO-WUAB's MyNet contract is the Bobby Bonilla of Cleveland television affiliation deals. Moving the CW to a WJW sub would be smart. Unfortunately, this is Nexstar, and they'd probably wind up dumping the Fox affiliation for the CW. I don't think Nexstar is that stupid to put stations like "FOX 8" in jeopardy.... Then again, they lost all those Fox affiliatons about a decade ago (of which they got back the one in Fort Wayne and bought their way back in Springfield) And lest we forget about poor WJMN.... 1 1 Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/19111-nexstar-acquires-75-of-the-cw/page/8/#findComment-282188 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEOMatrix 1299 Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 (edited) On 1/23/2023 at 12:57 AM, Myron Falwell said: WOIO-WUAB's MyNet contract is the Bobby Bonilla of Cleveland television affiliation deals. Moving the CW to a WJW sub would be smart. Unfortunately, this is Nexstar, and they'd probably wind up dumping the Fox affiliation for the CW. “Cleveland’s Own Channel 8” Nexstar would be doubly stupid to basically gift wrap the Fox affiliation to WUAB. Edited January 25, 2023 by NEOMatrix Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/19111-nexstar-acquires-75-of-the-cw/page/8/#findComment-282239 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyrannical bastard 3933 Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 In an alternate universe, let's say that Gray screws the pooch with CBS and a station formerly known as "CBS 46". If that brought down their affiliation with WOIO, it could potentially reverse the swap from 1994 where Fox returns to "Nineteen" and CBS "comes home" to WJW TV8. Then again, that may put WJW's standing in jeopardy, since much of their success has been at counter-programming the networks (even in CBS's waning days, pre-empting parts of the CBS schedule, and pushing David Letterman ahead an hour) Bottom line, unless the station is a dog to begin with, I don't think Nexstar is going to push aside a major affiliation at their behest. Now if the network pulls it, that's another story., Remember that WTTV was prepared to push The CW to 4.2 after they secured the CBS affiliation. Tribune relented and sold it to WISH. Nexstar may easily take it back should their deal be up at WISH. Columbus would be a coup as well if WCMH puts it on at 4.2 since it would give them another station to compete against the gaggle of Sinclair stations they've assembled. Might even force Steven Mumblow to give up on "WWHO" if they get stripped of The CW. WWHO itself is the 3.0 station for the market where the 1.0 resides on WTTE's spectrum. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/19111-nexstar-acquires-75-of-the-cw/page/8/#findComment-282245 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Muck 4366 Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 12 hours ago, NEOMatrix said: “Cleveland’s Own Channel 8” Nexstar would be doubly stupid to basically gift wrap the Fox affiliation to WUAB. Fox is basically a sports programming service with a forgettable primetime block of crappy reality shows—including 33 different shows that Gordon Ramsey can scream in and 9 different iterations of The Masked Singer (a fad that has long passed its expiration date)—and The Simpsons and Family Guy, two shows that will never die. That might be the goal Nexstar has for the CW, but they’ll never get anything close to the NFL or MLB. So why NOT turn the station into a O&O for a sports programming service that you own? 1 1 2 Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/19111-nexstar-acquires-75-of-the-cw/page/8/#findComment-282263 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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