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Between here and the Discord, we've seen multiple people confirm that this is a new package for the group, so there's been a thread title change.

At least Larry Tisch managed to give CBS the image of a pristine broadcaster. CBS looks so much like a network that rests on its laurels, just like all the other networks that Paramount Global owns. I really believe CBS will be the first broadcast network to cease operations at this point, especially considering the turmoil that every department in CBS is going through. CBS News has always lagged behind it's competitors but never has it been this desecrated and ruined. There's no "pride in it's coverage, history and integrity" anymore, all because Paramount Global couldn't manage itself to save it's own life and now needs to merge with Skydance to survive. ABC and NBC have been affected by Trump but never have I seen so much damage done to them than CBS. Disney and NBCUniversal have made wise decisions when it came to cable negotiations and shutting down cable networks that dragged down the company in the US at least. NBCUniversal also made the wise decision to spin off their cable properties except for Bravo as Versant. Paramount Global has not bothered to shut down any of it's vast amount of cable networks that barely matter or do well at all. Even flagship cable channels like Nickelodeon are not given the care or attention they need at all. I don't think any of the new shows that Nick has announced will make it to a second season, it's all SpongeBob now and that has been milked to death but it refuses to die. Sure there's The Loud House and various preschool programming but how long can they milk it for really? Even Warner Bros. Discovery is highly considering spinning off their cable networks as well. Never have I seen a company so grossly incompetent and mismanaged than Paramount Global. I don't think Shari should of taken on the job at all.

I was told by the assistant news director at KJRH back in April that Scripps was working on a new graphics package and looks like Tampa Bay is the first to get it.

The design has VividZero/Defiant vibes ?

I can't wait until WXYZ gets this package

While a bit generic, the graphics are an upgrade from the Powerpoint package they've had. I'd be interested to hear what other cuts the music package has because that one was quite underwhelming and forgettable.

Better than the current Scripps package! Would be nice if local markets can customize color though... I've always associated WFTS with reds and whites, not blue.

Apologies for pushing up this thread but "The Source" has debuted new graphics and moved into a "new" set, made out of CNN's Washington Newsroom. The new package features Collins and her work at the White House prominently, a departure from the city imagery of the last package, it kind of reminds me of their packages for Chris Wallace.

You read that right. KWQC commissioned it (thanks to Cyle Dickens' help nonetheless) and will debut on June 10th.

Wow he's come a long way since reporting traffic on the radio - He was the first person to report on the 9/11 incidents.

These graphics are a huge upgrade from what she previously had. The tight shot on her is also framed incredibly well.

We’re veering off topic here but I’ll add that I think a lot of these points are extremely valid and the primary one is just that the window on the world doesn’t attract the same hype it once did, similarly to the morning shows themselves. I walk by Today pretty often on my way to work and the size of the plaza crowd these days vs 5-10 years ago is a stark sign of the times.

I think the boat sailed around the time when Ann Curry was gaslighted out of Today and when Trump became president in 2016. The peak of the plaza was in 2012 during the 60th Anniversary of Today. That was the last time the show really valued the plaza and the initial legacy of the streetside studio. I don't think anybody really values or cares about the plaza anymore except for the diehard Today fans. The main show has been split into 3 distinct shows. The main show, the 3rd hour and the last hour. I understand that morning shows aren't really the hot commodity they used to be but damn I can't believe Today is just two hours long now. How is Today with only two hours, 3 distinct versions, significantly low viewership compared to even 2012 and a lower budget supposed to incorporate a plaza of people, the sole thing that was a defining feature, into its format? Al Roker doesn't even interview random people in the plaza anymore so what's the point of keeping the plaza and incorporating it into the Today show? As much as I want the plaza to stay, I feel like there will come a point in time where the plaza will be retired. I know they will celebrate the plaza's history and final day with a bang at least considering how important it is to the show's history in the 50s and 90s but after that, will anybody really miss the plaza?

YES. This one (attached) is one of the arrangements (over a number of years) I did for my original 'WTNCF' theme that I composed for KCRA-TV Kelly Broadcasting in late 83 ... Thanks.

Honestly, it would not surprise me in the least if this hypothetical new 3A set ended up being for Nightly, NBC News Now, and Today. Not only is a bunch of studio space and newsroom space about to open up, but technical spaces as well. It would not shock me at all if NBC chose to consolidate everything inside 30 Rock. The streetside studio thing has to be becoming more trouble than it's worth, and they're about to have at least two full control rooms open up.

4pm- Samantha Cortese and John Fenoglio 5pm/6pm- Cher Calvin and Micah Ohlman 6:30pm- Micah Ohlman 7pm- Cher Calvin and Micah Ohlman....same team for 10pm/11pm.

Cool, what was the story / process / inspiration that got you to that arrangement? Pretty iconic, nailed the newsy urgency and authority with some ebbs and flows. I remember it being used for many years.

Comedy Central's schedule consists of The Daily Show (when there's a new episode), South Park, and reruns of sitcoms you can watch in multiple other places. Meanwhile, MTV has multiple channels that are barely watched, such as MTVU, which is apparently both alive and defunct. They may as well call that one Schrodinger's MTV.

Even sadder if they cave towards the Trump administration by "bribing" them the 20 million dollars in his frivolous lawsuit against their news coverage. If that happens, CBS may as well be done for as a credible network and news organization. Even though ABC caved as well, Disney is in far better shape overall.

FOX Weather has brought back Night Light but in a whole new way. Its in a new 24/7 weather stream on YouTube called FOX Weather Chill.

His bio is now officially off the website

They are on the short list for this year.

so Shari Redstone is the second coming of Larry Tisch?

I understand some of your points. I don't think the streetside studio concept is a necessary trend across multiple stations especially on the local level with constrained budgets. I don't mind Today keeping the plaza however. The W 49th street view being blocked by police is understandable as you said. The Rockefeller Plaza portion however is a lot more controled. Onlookers have to go through metal detection to enter the plaza and security reviews your signs before you walk on. Today already does an occasional weather hit or concert series on the plaza so one or two interview segments out there weather permitting (to keep the plaza portion relevant) wouldn't hurt. Sidenote: GMA's in-studio audience experience was better. There are security guards in the audience monitoring everyone, there's a hype man in the crowd between commercial breaks, and you can actually hear the audio of the anchors and guests speaking. It's more controlled in that you have to book tickets (but people on standby in the audience who show up early can get in before you).

The ability for stations to preempt programming has always been maintained in affiliation contracts, even if they're much rarer now. There's nothing currently stopping any station from not airing tonight's After Midnight, much less this replacement.

No one’s gonna terminate their CBS affiliation because they chose to put an out-of-production Byron Allen show at 12:37 a.m. ET, BFFR. Considering the state of syndication these days, the current American network/affiliate programming model actually looks increasingly out of place, given that in most countries (as well as our Spanish-language networks and diginets), OTA broadcast networks handle most of their daily program output, fillling timeslots not occupied by first-run programs (e.g., dramas, sitcoms, reality series, lifestyle shows), news (local or national) and sports with acquired programming and repeats of current and past network shows. It kinda makes less sense now for networks here in the States to give lower-rated timeslots back to affiliates (the most recent occurrence being in 2021, when NBC gave up the 1:37 slot after A Little Late with Lilly Singh ended), given the downturn in the syndication market and stations’ tendency to just expand local news usually using an already stretched staff, rather than invest in other types of programming. Plus, CBS’s affiliates probably aren’t clamoring to take back the 12:37 a.m. slot. It’s too late for live news (outside of the occasional overrun during March Madness), and Big Three stations don’t run syndicated sitcoms and dramas in late night like they did through the 2000s (thanks largely to CBS and ABC making valiant challenges to NBC’s once-powerhouse late-night lineup with the Late Show, The Late Late Show and Jimmy Kimmel Live!). If CBS had turned over the timeslot, it’d probably be filled by lower-rated first-run syndies (as was often the case until the 1990s), newsmagazines (either second runs of shows like Inside Edition and ET or lower-rated shows like Extra that the station might already air in a later slot), second runs of daytime talk shows (KOCO, for example, has done this since the early 2000s starting with Oprah and now Kelly Clarkson and Jennifer Hudson), or late news rebroadcasts. You’re likely not going to see the types of suited-for-late-night first-run syndies like Arsenio, Love Connection or Blind Date that did well in the past.

Welcome Earl, was this one for KCRA your baby? The brassy Stan Atkinson “we have news for you…next” intro march. Your name sounds familiar from trying to lookup the author info for “Where the News Comes First” themes.

The streetside studio was an interesting concept when NBC brought it back in 1994. But, it's no longer 1994. It says a lot that everyone else has abandoned/is abandoning their streetside studio concept. It doesn't magically make the show better, or increase ratings. It has become a magnet for weirdos and people with an axe to grind, and that can be seen by how the area outside 1A's home base has been filled with a bunch of giant planter boxes over the last decade. The only way you can end up on TV now (and that seems to be a lot fewer people clamoring for that than before) is by being in the area that their security and/or the NYPD can shoo you away from the window. Look at the stark difference between this pic from a 1999 wild feed and nearly the same anchor position from this morning, and another similar one from this past week. You can't even see across the street anymore. Are they in New York City? Can't tell, it's entirely obscured by plants (and not even an actual plant in half of the second image, it's a screen showing a plant). The shots have all been adjusted too, go back and look at late 90's/early 2000's clips and match them up with the modern look... New York City is hidden from view. So, I ask, what is the point?

IMO it's no issue that they share a set, the problem is that the set sucks.

I was a composer producer in the late 80's for VTS (Earl Grizzell). Pretty sure this is a Brad Kelly composition.

That WNBC set was the one in 6B before Fallon took it over. 3K is something like 3/4 to 2/3 the size of 6B. There's going to be a glut of extra space on the 3rd floor once MSNBC moves out. I'd suspect they'll refresh/replace the set in 3A once that happens and hand it over to Nightly.

How many people total are watching? Having 46% of the audience sounds impressive, but if the total audience size is -- for example -- 10,000 people, then big whoop. Ratings no longer matter as they once did. Broadcasters typically earn more-than half of their annual revenue from retransmission fees versus core advertising. Who needs to fight for viewers when you're getting the same check every month from the cable companies?

"Whatever you have ongoing in thte next few hours ... I hope it's profitable!" - Richard Quest /ding!!! God I love Richard Quest. -- Matt

I thought that was Nonstop or 615 Not my favorite because it displaced the Ray Ellis retro theme…although funny that one originally aired 82-85 and less than 10 years later resurrected then updated as “retro”

Thought I'd keep this thread alive by asking a question. A friend of my family that watched a TV station that used the theme and promo in question is wondering which composer came up with it in the 1980's? HINT: It was a nod to a longtime slogan famously used by American Express. The two station IDs attached will explain. WNOL Station ID 1986.mp4 WPMT (Independent, Now Fox) Station ID 1985.mp4

TM Productions 1980's TV Demo

So, the NMSA site identified the WTVD Eyewitness News Theme that some of you have heard, as currently used on WTVD. It is by 4 Elements Music. It's titled as Eyewitness News 2024. It was not done by Gari/Warner-Chappell. Said it before in one way or another, it's sad to see the slow death of the Warner-Chappell catalogs. No updates, no desire to serve broadcasters in a way that they had in the niche areas of news music. Once ABC pulls away, there goes a lot of royalties, which I guess are all that they are interested in when it comes to the news niche. http://www.newsmusicsearcharchive.com/#3,1,2661 https://www.4elementsmusic.com/

WVVA has updated its logo, and is now using a secondary slogan, "Here for You", which is not referenced verbally in the opens (unlike the primary "Two Virginias' News Leader" slogan). The station has also replaced "The Rock" with "Stream". Note the error in the voice track, compared to the open used, and the text misalignment/overlap in the time/temp bug: KSNB and KNOP have also adopted new graphics, but, curiously, what they adopted isn't GrayONE, but what appear to be modifications to the graphics they introduced in August 2022, with new opens in tow. Both stations have also changed news themes (swapping one Warner-Chappell package for another): KNOP switched from Gari's "The NBC Collection" to 615's "Seize the Day", while KSNB switched from said Gari theme to 615's "Tower V.6".

Some of those already had a "non-network" logo on the website header, prior to the latest purge.

I mean, they were an O&O at one point, so it’s sorta weird it all came crashing down.

I can think of a few exceptions. And believe it or not, these are all not owned by Gray. WSB-TV in Atlanta, Georgia WSOC-TV in Charlotte, North Carolina KIII-TV in Corpus Christi, Texas

Well that makes sense, and I completely understand why. Everyone probably knows what network each station is affiliated with in their area, so that's not an issue. And if not, a quick Google search will solve that problem. I just don't think it should be a group wide thing...

No switch to GrayONE yet, but WMTV got the new brand (15 News) and new music (Unite from Stephen Arnold Music) on Wednesday.

I heard this from a colleague who works at an NBC Gray affiliate. It's not an NBC thing. It's a "Gray" thing. Eventually all stations will be removing their affliliation from their logos. The reasoning is to distance the stations from the affiliates and to separate itself from the fake news movement that the national media gets. Basically it's so people trust the LOCAL news and to take on their own branding and identity.

This is confirmation enough for everyone. We don't need a station-by-station report on a peacock removal. From here on, said posts will be hidden. Let us know if a station hasn't changed, at all.

Seems that she has something lined up… a lot of people seem to be showing up on NewsdayTV. I wonder if that’s where she’ll go

Another News 12 Long Island veteran has left the station. Virginia Huie was there for 17 years. https://www.facebook.com/huie12/posts/pfbid028d65nJxCn12uWns2ETrUx5o1jjZzc4mfaRVD11597Zz1adXZ3Hqnss2jNcWv5E8Hl?__cft__[0]=AZXdj605ou5nJYxGcrw_FNL5TbVTQsIV4JD-h1lxcfUbyqh78A_0o2lz9I8CQ_ek-elSWxc9lRjPjD0Gc20_hgpw3EL4y_0as4Ph34VPdkTkWzRNQYWftvrVB2qeIGhPJ4YYzoltRaNAzYHAgTWVyIP-aavWV0xe6d9EC1WMBvdYh8NC_UhPN7PhQ5jEUB_k_Hs&__tn__=%2CO%2CP-R

Today was also Rich Von Holen last day (executive weather producer/on air meteorologist). I guess there was another round of buy outs. Sad the networks continue to lose the faces and talent everyone has come to know. Fact.. Doug mentioned he accepted a buy out.

News 12 Long Island original Doug Geed signed off from the anchor desk last night. He will continue hosting the taped/on location "The East End" weekend show until the end of the year to help transition it to new hosts. Doug's also been using his Facebook and Instagram to showcase some of the behind-the-scenes people he's worked with. https://longisland.news12.com/doug-geed-signs-off-from-anchor-desk-after-37-years-at-news-12-long-island

Longtime News 12 LI anchor/reporter Danielle Campbell is out at the station effective Friday of this week. Notably, she was part of the 2018 age discrimination lawsuit against Altice, who tried to layoff Campbell at the time.