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*separated posts so it's not one massive paragraph* It's not implausible but----Why do we keep forcing idea that CBS is going to launch an afternoon newscast when they've shown no indications of doing so, and their national news product is not strong outside of 60 Mins and Sunday Morning?

I always rhought Harry would have been great anchor for Sunday Today or CBS Sunday Morning. Reminds me of the Charles (Kuralt/Osgood).

Probably goes back to the origins in newspapers where photography was the means of capturing images. Even with television adopting film and later video, the term persists into this day.

Yeah I was surprised that he wasn’t strongly considered for CBS Sunday Morning after the final Early Show relaunch. He was easily the strongest of the network’s bench and was heavily utilized on Evening News, Face the Nation too.

Harry has always been my favorite morning anchor, especially when paired with Paula Zahn on CBS. A total class act, and I always hoped when CBS fumbled and NBC picked him up that he would take over Today, especially after the whole Matt Lauer scandal. Either way, a great career indeed. Happy retirement, Harry—you’ll be missed but job well-done!

Setting aside Nexstar/Mission for a moment, technology and generational shifts result in fewer eyes on all kinds of news sources. The pie has been sliced into far smaller portions, and consolidation didn’t cause that.

Question, how come TV cameraman/women are often referred to as photographers? Did the term just carry over from newspapers to broadcast journalism? I have always associated photographer with someone who takes still photos as opposed to videos. Thanks.

Video is moving pictures. I don’t think it’s too strange to call them photographers. Every station can also have their quirks and have slightly different terms for the same role or function. I know KUSA is pretty adamant about calling them ‘photojournalists,’ while I know some stations also use the term “camera technician” or “ENG operator.” I also know that some stations used to have union contracts that were so strong that the ‘photographers’ were strictly there to worry about the camera and were forbidden from conducting interviews (that was the role of the reporter) or driving or operating the live truck (a role for the ‘live truck operator.’)

April Fools joke?

Thanks for asking this question as I've wondered it myself. The phrase "Photo-journalist" isn't really used outside of the industry, so perhaps photographer is a simpler term; it's also female inclusive unlike "cameraman".

And finally, Margret Orr signed off from WDSU last night: https://www.wdsu.com/article/margaret-orrs-final-farewell-wdsu-new-orleans/60346573 Among the tributes was one from NOLA native John Goodman:

Harry Smith is leaving NBC after 12 years! Grew up with him on CBS' The Early Show. Looks like he's leaving the industry as he'll be teaching at Central College in Pella, Iowa

Missed this during Spring Training (especially given that our Sportsnet carried the PIT feed on this game), but Sportsnet Pittsburgh has unsurprisingly commandeered the NESN Red Sox graphics too. The only difference being that the blueish tint on the NESN version was made dark grey like the Bruins/Penguins graphics.

Thank You! Compared to what Dana is getting over on Ch 2, and compared to what happened to Sue, I'm really proud of how News 4 is celebrating and honoring Chuck. Im also glad that they acknowledged how the Chuck/Sue pairing contributed to Chuck's success, and that they let her talk on camera.

Here’s the whole special on Chuck from last night:

Don Alhart is retiring on June 6th after 58 years at WHAM: https://13wham.com/news/local/don-alhart-retiring-after-58-years-at-13wham-news#

No offense, but who? I don't recognize those names from WCBS or WNBC in the 80s, 90s, to today.

I hate to say this, but the poster does have a point. Yes, there's alot of ageism goes on in many work industries. Television news is no exception either. Chuck, still might be spry, but Sue Simmons got the boot and he didn't is very telling. Sue a year older than Chuck, and he still get to anchor one newscast where her contract wasn't renewed. Chuck and Sue were an institution together on WNBC and a pillar in NYC area, but he should of been ushered out along with Sue. The question is why? Was it because he was a man? Again, their age only separates them a year apart.

Bumping this up-- personally, IMO, if WWL in the Big Easy was to no longer be EWN (saddened that that Big Easy CBS station was to no longer be/is no longer EWN), then I think a better name for that news would have been News 4 Louisiana, or even News 4 New Orleans [that latter one would have given WWL, seemingly, a sort of WNBC/Big Apple flavor, because News 4 New York has been a long-running news handle in the Big Apple, first from 1980-95, and then from 2008-now]).

Wonder why other networks aren't interested? Like the USA network? They want more sports programming.

We can revisit this road forever but why the NBC brass broke up an iconic pairing? To this day I still don't know. I dont think it was ratings so it "must be the money" to quote Nelly lol. Its pretty telling that none of his anchor pairings after Sue (as great as Shiba and Sibila were) lasted long. Hopefully Natalie lasts long. As much as I love Chuck's straight non emotional/non editorial news persona, Sue's peronality made the pairing complete and livened him at times. She (and Roz Abrahms & Brenda Blackmon) should still be working today, if at least on the weekends. Back to Chuck, wishing him good health and I hope he takes the job to the end.

Last night during the 5 pm hour, they showed one of Chuck's long form reports (I miss those, it is what made News4 special in the 80s) where he reported on the B17 bombers, and found a person who flew with his dad, then allowed them to have a reunion. A touching story of the life of WW2 bombers and their post war lives. I assume we will see more of that tonight as well. They also seem to be making a concerted effort of including Sue Simmons, either mentioning her, stories with her and pieces of Chuck's interview with her. No matter how messy her departure was, you can never take away the great Chuck & Sue pairing and was a big part of Chuck's success & longevity.

If I remember correctly, Chuck didn’t do much to move the needle at WNBC. It was the addition of Sue and their pairing that made 4 a ratings contender.

It's too bad Sue is not there with him to celebrate, but that is the nature of the business. We'll see if Chuck makes the record for 57 years! Also here is a recent interview with Sue from Newsday: https://www.newsday.com/entertainment/tv/sue-simmons-chuck-scarborough-wnbc-ppsgedjt

Another thing to consider, specifically in the case of B&B, because I think we tend to think of things only in terms of how it affects us ("us" being those in the United States): The Bold and the Beautiful is one of the most-watched shows on tv internationally, which is where I think it makes its money. I even read someplace that Bold has more viewers on a daily basis in Italy (where it's known simply as Beautiful) than here in the States. It's also very popular in Australia, I believe, evidently pulling in higher ratings there than the homegrown Neighbours which was cancelled not too long ago. I would agree that if it relied chiefly on U.S. audiences, it would've gotten the ax a long time ago, unfortunately. But, its international presence is what's propping it up. Perhaps it might make the move to Paramount+ someday for U.S. audiences, but as long as the show is making money via international broadcasts and licensing and what not, it's probably not going to really go anywhere anytime soon, even it's not necessarily broadcast OTA on CBS.

I can see a CBS newscast at 11 AM outside the Eastern time zone, but there are five stations which run Y&R at 11:30: Los Angeles, Chicago, Dallas, Nashville, and Springfield, MO. Also, KFMB has a local newscast from 11-12:30, delaying Y&R to 1 PM. In the Eastern time zone, you seem to be suggesting that CBS's newscast air at 1 PM, directly opposite GMA3 and NBC News Daily. Do you think people will want three news/public affairs shows head-to-head in the middle of the day? And does Y&R get the boot? Perhaps those five stations that run Y&R at 11:30 expand their midday news (or, in Nashville, "Talk of the Town") to 11-12, then go along with the East Coast with network news at 12 (CT/PT). The question then becomes: what happens to the soaps? It looks to me like B&B is headed for the boneyard sometime in 2025, and the new Black-oriented soap The Gates is still on the drawing boards. Does Y&R go to 2/1? And a few other complications: there are CBS affiliates (WBTV Charlotte and WANF Atlanta among them) that start their news blocks at 3. That doesn't bode well as a potential timeslot for a soap; further, I don't see CBS giving up Let's Make A Deal, which seems to work just fine either at 10 AM or 3 PM. This is a truly complicated situation.

I hope it replaces The Talk; I hated that show ever since. I had a vision of what the lineup would look like. 10AM (ET) - LMAD 11AM (ET) - The Price is Right 12PM - Local News 12:30PM - Y&R 1:30PM - B&B 2PM - The Gates In case you forgotten, CBS pulled the plug on two legendary soaps (GL & AWTW) in '09 and '10. And for game show fans like me, in case you might remember CBS did a pilot for ($1,000,000) Pyramid in '09, but it was passed up... twice!

I truly appreciate that you care about visual presentation standards. But I don't see the lack of a high camera or the shift to chromakey as the lowering of the bar for local news. Endless "local" newscasts filled with national stories from network news services, repurposed packages from ownership sister stations, and copious time spent on television talking about "what people are talking about online". Local newscasts with a shrinking amount of actual community news. That's lowering the bar for news. Not a few tweaks to how a newscast is shot.

Given my work for our school's program, I 100% understand emphasize this! Some days you just have to improvise and work with what you have while still putting out the best product you can! Just because you didn't have that one wide shot or this newscast is a bit different then the one this time yesterday doesn't degrade the overall product at all! As people have said, it's things people barley notice anyway!

That’s because it is hyperbole. The world is not frozen in time and there is not one single way to do things. Sometimes things are done for variety, sometimes because something is temporarily unavailable, sometimes because in the judgement of those tasked with making the decision, something wasn’t working. We’re not talking about an assembly line where doing things to precise specifications every time is a matter of quality and safety. It’s perfectly fine to draw from several options.

KRON Newscenter 4 Update 1980

KNDO 9/21/1988, NewsCenter during the Olympics PS - Those KIRO clips from the 1970s are amazing!! There's tons of JP Patches clips on that YT channel too!

It's a one-time show, sounds like it'll be at least party live, the brainchild of all the main show's comedic minds.

And the USFL version of the 2020-23 Fox graphics still live...

Idea 10 Lets Make a Deal 11 Price is Right 12 Local News 12:30 Y&R 1 NEW SOAP: The Gates 1:30 B&B 2 The Talk This is simplest way to accommodate the new soap without massively altering or confusing CBS's daytime lineup. Y&R remains in it's successful 12:30 ET slot, Gates airs at 1 to get the carryover audience, and the fans don't change the channel because they know Bold is coming on right after. I doubt the The Talk or the game shows will be sliced to 30 minutes. I also don't see the veteran B&B getting canceled for a new soap. As awful as the show has become, it's still number two in soap ratings, and has international appeal. If you regularly watch B&B, you would know that expanding it to one hour is a bad idea. Not counting commercials, Bold's writers can't even fill 18 minutes without heavy repetition, let alone a full 38. I don't mind if the CBS daytime block extends into 3pm, but affiliates like WANF, with 3 PM newscasts would.

wow, literally just mentioned his name this week when I asked which Anchorhead beat in Chuck Scarborough for the longest tenured record. Another legend, Harry Smith is leaving NBC after 12 years! I grew up watching him on CBS' The Early Show.

I’m not privy as to why Sue’s contract wasn’t renewed. If it’s a case of ageism/sexism, that’s horrible and there’s zero excuse for it. However, it’s also entirely possible that she was ready to retire and he wasn’t. There’s also internet gossip (which I won’t link to because it’s not credible) that suggests that Sue was “phoning it in” and that management at the time wasn’t willing to give her a new contract; again, I’d take that with a grain of salt. If we go off the assumption that Sue’s dismissal was unfair, however, I don’t think one unfair dismissal demands another. It wouldn’t have made it right for both of them to be forced out for their age instead of just one of them; amplifying ageism in the workplace is not the solution to sexism IMO.