ColDayNews 438 Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 A simulcast of the 7am-9am hours of FNC's Fox & Friends on local stations, similar to how Foxnet simulcasted FOX Report with Shepard Smith could be a viable competitor to GMA, Today and CBS This Morning. It could work this way: Heather Nauert does her usual headlines. Fox would allow local news/weather/traffic during FNC's commercial break. The 8:50 AM toss to Hemmer or McCallum for America's Newsroom could be a final headline and traffic and weather cut-in. The FNC ticker would remain intact, but instead of the spinning cube, the rectangular logo used during Special Reports/Presidential Addresses on the broadcast network, typically anchored by Shep Smith would be used. Maria Molina's national weather updates would remain. What do y'all think? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14597-should-fox-simulcast-fox-and-friends-on-its-local-stations/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRolyPoly 2449 Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 A simulcast of the 7am-9am hours of FNC's Fox & Friends on local stations, similar to how Foxnet simulcasted FOX Report with Shepard Smith could be a viable competitor to GMA, Today and CBS This Morning. It could work this way: Heather Nauert does her usual headlines. Fox would allow local news/weather/traffic during FNC's commercial break. The 8:50 AM toss to Hemmer or McCallum for America's Newsroom could be a final headline and traffic and weather cut-in. The FNC ticker would remain intact, but instead of the spinning cube, the rectangular logo used during Special Reports/Presidential Addresses on the broadcast network, typically anchored by Shep Smith would be used. Maria Molina's national weather updates would remain. What do y'all think? Not when you have Good Day New York, KTVU Mornings on 2, 7 News Today in Florida, Good Day Tampa Bay and other highly successful local morning newscasts. So... NO. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14597-should-fox-simulcast-fox-and-friends-on-its-local-stations/#findComment-133071 Share on other sites More sharing options...
24994J 5585 Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 I'd imagine that most Fox affiliates hate the wrongful association viewers think they have with FNC, hardly would they want the product on their stations. Besides, almost all the affiliates already broadcast locally against the big 3 morning shows, and many are very successful, outdrawing the networks. Why would those stations in particular agree to air 'F&F', or at least not complain about the potential loss of revenue at the local level? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14597-should-fox-simulcast-fox-and-friends-on-its-local-stations/#findComment-133072 Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianpr3 178 Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 no because the fox o&o's would lose their good day shows Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14597-should-fox-simulcast-fox-and-friends-on-its-local-stations/#findComment-133074 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColDayNews 438 Posted August 25, 2015 Author Share Posted August 25, 2015 I'd imagine that most Fox affiliates hate the wrongful association viewers think they have with FNC, hardly would they want the product on their stations. Besides, almost all the affiliates already broadcast locally against the big 3 morning shows, and many are very successful, outdrawing the networks. Why would those stations in particular agree to air 'F&F', or at least not complain about the potential loss of revenue at the local level? Hey, thanks for the reply. I forgot, the Presidential Address on the morning of July 14th due to the Iran nuke deal was what made me wonder why Fox hasn't at least tried this. IIRC, my local station, WRGT, went into simulcast with FNC complete with the new graphics and Doocy tossing back to local stations to resume their normal programming. This made me wonder why Fox doesn't have a national morning show. Thanks again for your reply! Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14597-should-fox-simulcast-fox-and-friends-on-its-local-stations/#findComment-133075 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ns8401 941 Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 A simulcast of the 7am-9am hours of FNC's Fox & Friends on local stations, similar to how Foxnet simulcasted FOX Report with Shepard Smith could be a viable competitor to GMA, Today and CBS This Morning. It could work this way: Heather Nauert does her usual headlines. Fox would allow local news/weather/traffic during FNC's commercial break. The 8:50 AM toss to Hemmer or McCallum for America's Newsroom could be a final headline and traffic and weather cut-in. The FNC ticker would remain intact, but instead of the spinning cube, the rectangular logo used during Special Reports/Presidential Addresses on the broadcast network, typically anchored by Shep Smith would be used. Maria Molina's national weather updates would remain. What do y'all think? In some of their markets where the local newscasts kill GMA and TODAY combined this would be a horrible idea. For example here in Detroit WJBK is #1 5am-Noon thanks to its long running Fox 2 News Morning being so popular... It's popularity has boosted them up in the demos to number one in almost every evening slot as well because people like what they get in the mornings and come back for more later. Shutting that down would hurt them tremendously... Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14597-should-fox-simulcast-fox-and-friends-on-its-local-stations/#findComment-133078 Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Block 1566 Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Yeah, sounds like a great way to sabotage the local shows *and* probably the ratings of Fox and Friends itself, which could see some leakage of viewers to the simulcast. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14597-should-fox-simulcast-fox-and-friends-on-its-local-stations/#findComment-133080 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samantha 2896 Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 It would kill the local stations' successful morning product, be an anchor on those affiliates who already don't like sharing a name with Fox News Channel... And on the West Coast, the hours would be so totally off. The logistics don't even make sense. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14597-should-fox-simulcast-fox-and-friends-on-its-local-stations/#findComment-133086 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkolsen 1684 Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 No. Fox stations already have a hard enough time getting people to realize that they are not associated with Fox News. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14597-should-fox-simulcast-fox-and-friends-on-its-local-stations/#findComment-133093 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToriElectra 292 Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Yeah, especially the stations that switched from other networks like WTVT- the viewers that remembered they weren't always Fox are starting to probably forget that. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14597-should-fox-simulcast-fox-and-friends-on-its-local-stations/#findComment-133100 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Muck 4378 Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 The affiliates alone would make such an idea DOA. No contest. Similar to WJBK, WJW's morning newscast has been a ratings steamroller since the days of "ei8ht IS NEWS" 20 years ago. Outside of possibly WKYC, no other station in the Cleveland market comes close. Like hell they would give that up. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14597-should-fox-simulcast-fox-and-friends-on-its-local-stations/#findComment-133101 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Muck 4378 Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 No. Fox stations already have a hard enough time getting people to realize that they are not associated with Fox News. It doesn't help that most of the O&Os and many affiliates had or have logos and graphics similar to FNC (by design with the first O&O standardization 10 years ago). Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14597-should-fox-simulcast-fox-and-friends-on-its-local-stations/#findComment-133102 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRob 938 Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 We beat the national morning shows every day with local news. FnF can stay on cable. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14597-should-fox-simulcast-fox-and-friends-on-its-local-stations/#findComment-133110 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eat News 4745 Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 What FOX stations are having to "distance" themselves from FNC? I hear this all the time from people critical of FOX News Channel...but have yet to see on example of it anywhere. Are FOX stations being forced to run spots dIs-assocating from FNC? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14597-should-fox-simulcast-fox-and-friends-on-its-local-stations/#findComment-133111 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEOMatrix 1299 Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 What would be the benefit of the local affiliates running "Fox and Friends"? Majority of viewers do like having a local alternative to the Big 3 Morning Shows. Ending that would just be a middle finger to viewership and to the affilation base. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14597-should-fox-simulcast-fox-and-friends-on-its-local-stations/#findComment-133112 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToriElectra 292 Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Fox has tried twice to push national breakfast shows: once with Fox after Breakfast (a reworking of FX's Breakfast Time back when they were "interactive") in the mid-90s, and again in the mid 2000s with Good Day Live (with the crew from Good Day LA). Both attempts crashed and burned. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14597-should-fox-simulcast-fox-and-friends-on-its-local-stations/#findComment-133115 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Muck 4378 Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Fox has tried twice to push national breakfast shows: once with Fox after Breakfast (a reworking of FX's Breakfast Time back when they were "interactive") in the mid-90s, and again in the mid 2000s with Good Day Live (with the crew from Good Day LA). Both attempts crashed and burned. And neither ran in the 7-9 slot. "After Breakfast" (which IIRC was later retitled "The Vicki Laurence Show" after everyone involved with "Breakfast Time" departed) aired nationally on Fox in the 9am hour. "Good Day Live" was syndicated by 20th Television and not carried on Fox itself, with most stations (including WJW) carrying it in the 1pm ET (10am PT) hour. Then there was "The Spaghetti Cat Morning Show with Mike and Juliet," which 20th Television also syndicated; stations typically carried it at the 9am hour. After Mike and Juilet faded away, many Fox affils extended their morning newscasts into the 9am hour. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14597-should-fox-simulcast-fox-and-friends-on-its-local-stations/#findComment-133119 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbs4dallas 17 Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 KTBC thrives with Good Day Austin from 7-9am, while its other newscasts are either in second or third place at 5pm an 10pm. It does not need a national morning news show. (Unless it was switching affiliations) Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14597-should-fox-simulcast-fox-and-friends-on-its-local-stations/#findComment-133120 Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.L. Hughes 890 Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 In essence, Fox seems not that willing to expand beyond primetime, sports and Fox News Sunday, when one considers that after their only late-night success, MAD TV ended five years ago, they haven't done much in late night; all of their other late-night efforts failed, including more recently Animation Domination High-Def (which toils in reruns), and the network hasn't treaded in late-night programming on weeknights since about '93, when The Chevy Chase Show crashed and burned. This (to use a Kent Brockman term) "avoision" is perfectly illustrated by the fact that it gave the two-hour daytime lineup back to the affiliates when the Fox Kids weekday block ended in 2001, rather than keep the time period and fill it with soaps, talk or game shows. To me, though there is a drawback to the lack of national news programming on the network, when one considers that even though it's a major network, a large number of its stations – mainly those who outsource their news production – don't carry newscasts in traditional timeslots (e.g., 5:00, 6:00 and 11:00/10:00 p.m.), though this primarily has to do with provisions in news share and LMA/SSA agreements that limit the number of news hours that the contracted station produces for the Fox affiliate, limits that don't exist with most sharing agreements involving two Big Three affiliates. This question should be, would Fox even be willing to air a daily national news program, morning or evening, that in certain ways is stylistically different (although still uses resources) from Fox News Channel? Also, why didn't Fox launch a traditional national news program when FNC launched? And adding to MyronFalwell's point, most of the Fox stations that extended their local morning newscasts into the 9:00 a.m. hour are those that have news departments; some news-producing Fox affiliates (including O&O KDFW) and practically all of those that have morning newscasts produced by a Big Three affiliate still end their morning shows at 9:00. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14597-should-fox-simulcast-fox-and-friends-on-its-local-stations/#findComment-133121 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TVNewsLover 782 Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 I don't see a purpose to a simulcast. They would be more likely to start a program from scratch (call it "Good Day USA") but like others said, the local programs are doing so well it would not make any sense. They tried to get Conan a few years ago for late night but a lot of the affiliates balked at it. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14597-should-fox-simulcast-fox-and-friends-on-its-local-stations/#findComment-133142 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJClementeFan69 477 Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Pretty much what everyone else said. It's an absurd non-starter. Quite a few (maybe most?) of the O&O/affiliates 7AM+later shows beat the national morning shows and there's no way the stations would go for it for that reason alone. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14597-should-fox-simulcast-fox-and-friends-on-its-local-stations/#findComment-133149 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darius22 122 Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 I think it would work because then what they would have to do is talk to each other about their headlines via satellite then again it would cut into the local news's time because most FOX O&Os mainly KTTV usually report until 8 or 9AM. and i think that's why FOX is unique to the other three networks. now if this was put on MyNetworkTV affiliates then people wouldnt be able to watch syndicated shows (The Real, Maury, Jerry Springer, Wendy Williams, The People's Court, Etc.) Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14597-should-fox-simulcast-fox-and-friends-on-its-local-stations/#findComment-133307 Share on other sites More sharing options...
USNewsie 50 Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 I don't think a simulcast of FNC would work at this point. Here in Miami, WSVN get pretty good ratings in those morning hours. Although I do feel that they're on too long from 4 to 10, too much of 7. Nonetheless, I've always wanted for FOX to have some news show competing with the big 3 networks. If not morning, they should produce an evening news program or a show like 60 minutes or 20/20. Definitely they should expand beyond primetime and Sunday morning. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14597-should-fox-simulcast-fox-and-friends-on-its-local-stations/#findComment-133336 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRolyPoly 2449 Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 I don't think a simulcast of FNC would work at this point. Here in Miami, WSVN get pretty good ratings in those morning hours. Although I do feel that they're on too long from 4 to 10, too much of 7. Nonetheless, I've always wanted for FOX to have some news show competing with the big 3 networks. If not morning, they should produce an evening news program or a show like 60 minutes or 20/20. Definitely they should expand beyond primetime and Sunday morning. * 5-10am. WSVN is #1 in the Morning. Adding a national show would be a very BIG blow to WSVN, since a lot of people do watch Today in Florida and that includes me, so don't get me started on the idea of a national morning show on FOX. I will not watch it if that happens. I've always thought that FOX should have The FOX Report at 7:00 p.m. (from the cable news network), but it would be optional for FOX stations that may wanna carry it. FOX is already successful with Animation Domination or now called Sunday Funday, so I don't want that lineup messed up. Really, the only place FOX has for news is Sunday mornings, but its not even seen on WSVN until Monday Mornings at 4:00 a.m. They preempt it for religious programming on Sunday mornings. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14597-should-fox-simulcast-fox-and-friends-on-its-local-stations/#findComment-133340 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Muck 4378 Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 I think it would work because then what they would have to do is talk to each other about their headlines via satellite then again it would cut into the local news's time because most FOX O&Os mainly KTTV usually report until 8 or 9AM. and i think that's why FOX is unique to the other three networks. now if this was put on MyNetworkTV affiliates then people wouldnt be able to watch syndicated shows (The Real, Maury, Jerry Springer, Wendy Williams, The People's Court, Etc.) The affiliates committed near-mutiny when Fox considered hiring Conan for an 11pm show. Forcing them to give up lucrative and highly-rated morning shows for a network program - especially a simulcast of a polemic show already available on basic cable - is not only criminally stupid, it would cause the entire network to collapse. Plus the majority of Fox affils do not have a MyTV duopoly partner. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14597-should-fox-simulcast-fox-and-friends-on-its-local-stations/#findComment-133356 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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