NEOMatrix 1295 Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 The "no Fox Kids" policy was due to stations like WJW and WITI wanting decent lead-ins to the newscasts. Do you seriously think that Cleveland's Own would want Power Rangers to be a lead-in to the 5pm news? I also heard that the reason why the New World stations didn't take Fox Kids Saturday Mornings was due to some stations wanting to eventually do weekend news and some GMs thought Fox Kids would cut into those ad dollars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Muck 4167 Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 how did those stations handle the OJ simpson verdict? WJW took the CNN feed straight up. That was also the case with the Olympics Centennial Park Bombing: Ironically, because WJW was severely limited when the Oklahoma City bombing happened, they sent one of their longtime reporters, Martin Savidge, to cover it. His work impressed CNN so much that they hired him for a morning show revamp (he left, went to NBC, then went to host World Focus, and then went back to CNN). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Muck 4167 Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 The "no Fox Kids" policy was due to stations like WJW and WITI wanting decent lead-ins to the newscasts. Do you seriously think that Cleveland's Own would want Power Rangers to be a lead-in to the 5pm news? I also heard that the reason why the New World stations didn't take Fox Kids Saturday Mornings was due to some stations wanting to eventually do weekend news and some GMs thought Fox Kids would cut into those ad dollars. Those stations all had precedent, as WSVN was not clearing Fox Kids either (if it was ever on WSVN, it had been dropped well before 1994). Plus, St. Louis excluded, there were stations in the New World markets willing to clear Fox Kids. It actually put WBNX, then a sleepy indie with Ernest Angely "90 and 9" riffs and 50s-era sitcoms, on the map. Funny thing is, WJW HAD weekend morning newscasts from 1991 until the switch to Fox in August 1994. Aside from an hour-long Sunday morning newscast for a few years in the early 2000s, full-blown weekend morning news wasn't reinstated until 2011. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Salter JR 66 Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 One thing they nearly all agreed on was "no Fox Kids- we don't like cartoons", even though they could've still carried the Saturday portion and just dumped the weekday portion- but nope, it was apparently not mix n match. WBRC was technically the turning point- there were planning on carrying it, but the old Fox station held onto it and Fox changed their policy after that, though WSVN had dumped it even prior to that. There were only a few of the NW and associated stations that did carry it- there was KTVI, and there was WHBQ- and neither really carried the blocks in pattern. The Emmis stations liked it, though- KHON, WALA, WLUK, and WVUE all carried it in pattern (though WLUK cut the weekday hours shortly before that part was eliminated). did any of those stations pass on fox news sunday when it started? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Muck 4167 Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 did any of those stations pass on fox news sunday when it started? By that point, Fox had officially completed their purchase of New World. FNS was automatically cleared on all of the newfound O&Os. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Muck 4167 Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 One thing they nearly all agreed on was "no Fox Kids- we don't like cartoons", even though they could've still carried the Saturday portion and just dumped the weekday portion- but nope, it was apparently not mix n match. WBRC was technically the turning point- there were planning on carrying it, but the old Fox station held onto it and Fox changed their policy after that, though WSVN had dumped it even prior to that. There were only a few of the NW and associated stations that did carry it- there was KTVI, and there was WHBQ- and neither really carried the blocks in pattern. The Emmis stations liked it, though- KHON, WALA, WLUK, and WVUE all carried it in pattern (though WLUK cut the weekday hours shortly before that part was eliminated). Remember that WBRC was directly sold to Fox because New World also had acquired WVTM (immediately sold to Outlet) and had to be run by Fox as an ABC affiliate for a year. Same thing happened with WGHP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
channel2 869 Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 Outlet never owned WVTM. New World held onto it until 1996, when it and KNSD were sold to NBC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samantha 2878 Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 Outlet never owned WVTM. New World held onto it until 1996, when it and KNSD were sold to NBC. Still hard to believe that just those two mid-market TV stations sold for $425 million (or $654m in today's money). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Muck 4167 Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 Outlet never owned WVTM. New World held onto it until 1996, when it and KNSD were sold to NBC. You're right. WVTM, however, did get lumped in with WCMH, WJAR and WNCN as "the Outlet Four" when NBC sold them all to MediaGeneral. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomadcowatbk 144 Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 after WDAF went to Fox, it used CNN for national news for years even after FNC launched they didn't have any stations in STL willing to air Fox Kids without anti-abortion preaching during the local breaks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrschimpf 2059 Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 after WDAF went to Fox, it used CNN for national news for years even after FNC launched Most of the New World stations (and some Fox O&O's) did use CNN as their main affiliate service until Roger Ailes got the FTS chairmanship and ordered them non-renewed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmediaguy 123 Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 "NBC Boston" will soft launch on November 10. WBTS will have a virtual, over-the-air channel of 8.x. https://www.bostonglobe.com/business/2016/10/31/where-you-can-find-new-nbc-boston-your-remote/zRfa8wxVs5e9va8OMK7gQL/story.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkolsen 1678 Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 "NBC Boston" will soft launch on November 10. WBTS will have a virtual, over-the-air channel of 8.x. https://www.bostonglobe.com/business/2016/10/31/where-you-can-find-new-nbc-boston-your-remote/zRfa8wxVs5e9va8OMK7gQL/story.html Interesting that they're using virtual channel 8. I thought they were required to reflect their old analog channel number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
padrechuck 25 Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 TVNewscheck has more details of the new NBC Boston lineup: http://www.tvnewscheck.com/mobile/index/article/id/98933 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mvcg66b3r 97 Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 TVNewscheck has more details of the new NBC Boston lineup: http://www.tvnewscheck.com/mobile/index/article/id/98933 And the article refers to Days of our Lives as a syndicated show, when it's actually an NBC network program produced by Sony Pictures TV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GroupWBZ 73 Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 And the article refers to Days of our Lives as a syndicated show, when it's actually an NBC network program produced by Sony Pictures TV. It's a soap in 2016. Might as well be syndicated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samantha 2878 Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 after WDAF went to Fox, it used CNN for national news for years even after FNC launched they didn't have any stations in STL willing to air Fox Kids without anti-abortion preaching during the local breaks It wasn't just abortion, it was asking kids to write to the governor of Missouri about a planned execution. Just imagine a little kid say, "Mom, what's an execution?" They also had to deal with perennial reception problems, even for cable viewers. Not a good recipe. As to the WBTS program plans themselves, they're not anything exciting. They do seem to be setting them up to make the station a fully featured O&O right from the start, which is of note, particularly that Storm Ranger vehicle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEOMatrix 1295 Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 Hopefully, WBTS' launch will go much better than WJZY's debut of its news department. It will already be better if they don't do "Hey Hey, New England". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eat News 4738 Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 Whoo Hoo! Another fast food joint on the block serving the same old rehash-taged social media viral video crap. The only difference is the restrooms at WBTS don't have graffiti scratched in the stalls yet. Re-heated microwave News Burritos...yum. Edit:Changed yuk to yum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRolyPoly 1847 Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 Hopefully, WBTS' launch will go much better than WJZY's debut of its news department. It will already be better if they don't do "Hey Hey, New England". They'll probably pick up LA Groove or The Tower from WVIT. I'll be surprised if they use neither. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonDonP1 113 Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 They'll probably pick up LA Groove or The Tower from WVIT. I'll be surprised if they use neither. Hello, there. According NewsMusicNow.com, "L.A. Groove" has a new title: "NBC News Package." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickp 296 Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 Some NECN talent will also appear on NBC Boston, including anchor Latoyia Edwards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewsMaster 226 Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 They'll probably pick up LA Groove or The Tower from WVIT. I'll be surprised if they use neither. I'm hoping they use The Tower. They could also pick up 360's NBC O&O package that WMAQ still uses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRolyPoly 1847 Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 Some NECN talent will also appear on NBC Boston, including anchor Latoyia Edwards NECN talent will be on all day thanks to the Early Warning Weather team that NECN has already established for quite some time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Muck 4167 Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 Interesting that they're using virtual channel 8. I thought they were required to reflect their old analog channel number. Having an LPTV inside the market proper (where it's far enough away from WMTW) helped matters. Plus a station isn't necessarily tied to their PSIP channel ID permanently; Daystar had the PSIP of WRLM/Canton reassigned from 67 to 47 with the DTV conversion. Regardless, NBC on channel 8 is not as embarrassing as NBC on channel 60. Plus it's an obvious shot at Ed Ansin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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