Eat News 4745 Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Breeding women, Eat News. I doubt we need breading women... too many carbs. LOL Fixed... You fuddy duddy's (I will have my women on rye please.) Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15532-san-diego-cw-affiliation-moving-from-xetv-to-kfmb/page/9/#findComment-169516 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEOMatrix 1299 Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 I declare the new CW6 newscast shall display only the finest stock in breeding women, and the most dapper and handsome fancy lads. Fixed because we don't want to confuse the old people any further. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15532-san-diego-cw-affiliation-moving-from-xetv-to-kfmb/page/9/#findComment-169528 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samantha 2895 Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 So apparently XETV is on 98 (798 HD) on the Izzi cable system. It's probably going to be moving to 6 when it gets whatever Spanish programming is planned for it. XHDTV is on 97/797 when it really, really should be on 49 because, well, it's XHDTV. The lineup is the same as far south as Ensenada. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15532-san-diego-cw-affiliation-moving-from-xetv-to-kfmb/page/9/#findComment-169586 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eat News 4745 Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 So apparently XETV is on 98 (798 HD) on the Izzi cable system. It's probably going to be moving to 6 when it gets whatever Spanish programming is planned for it. XHDTV is on 97/797 when it really, really should be on 49 because, well, it's XHDTV. The lineup is the same as far south as Ensenada. So would XETV fall under some form of Mexican must carry if they are presenting all Spanish programing in MX.? Does a provision like that exist? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15532-san-diego-cw-affiliation-moving-from-xetv-to-kfmb/page/9/#findComment-169602 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samantha 2895 Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 So would XETV fall under some form of Mexican must carry if they are presenting all Spanish programing in MX.? Does a provision like that exist? Yes it does! It actually falls under Mexican must-carry right now, because it is a licensed TV station in Mexico. Prior to the 2013 telecommunications reform, there were carriage spats, notably one involving TV Azteca that meant Megacable customers had no access to TV Azteca's channels for eight months. Studies have shown that the broadcast networks are some of the most-viewed channels by cable subscribers, so that's important. The 2013 reform introduced "must-carry, must-offer" (an example of the term being borrowed directly into Spanish). The reason "must-offer" is also added is that some broadcasters might have an incentive to withhold stations. (Izzi is owned by Televisa, for instance — imagine if it held back Televisa programs to just its own cable providers!) In Mexico, must-carry applies only to cable. A similar provision applies to satellite, where "national networks" covering more than 50% of the population (right now, Las Estrellas, Canal 5, Azteca 7 and Azteca Trece) must be made available nationwide on satellite. Satellite providers do not provide a local-into-local service. Sky (which is part owned by Televisa and part owned by DirecTV) provides "Local View" and "Local News" channels that consist of programs from the various Televisa Regional stations. Sky also offers FOROtv, ADN 40, Gala TV and Mexiquense TV (all broadcast over-the-air in the Mexico City area). The other satellite operators (Dish and the fairly new Star TV) have none of that. There is also a provision that requires cable and satellite providers to carry channels from "federal public institutions" — namely, Canal Once and Once Niños, Canal 22 and Canal 22.2, Una Voz con Todos, TV UNAM, Ingenio TV (an educational service), Canal del Congreso and Canal Judicial. As to the stations at hand, Izzi would be out of line by keeping XETV and XHDTV grouped with the US stations. They need to be at 6 and 49, stat. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15532-san-diego-cw-affiliation-moving-from-xetv-to-kfmb/page/9/#findComment-169604 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eat News 4745 Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 Yes it does! It actually falls under Mexican must-carry right now, because it is a licensed TV station in Mexico. As to the stations at hand, Izzi would be out of line by keeping XETV and XHDTV grouped with the US stations. They need to be at 6 and 49, stat. Ok, I thought XETV was lower in the cablemas tier in Baja, but I now see it's way up at 171. I assume MARS TV would be replaced with XETV? So would it would be correct to say a 'Univision 6" would still be up in the tier (not subject to must carry) even if it's Spanish language but not Mexico based? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15532-san-diego-cw-affiliation-moving-from-xetv-to-kfmb/page/9/#findComment-169617 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eat News 4745 Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 I don't get it. XETV has plenty of paid spots...the newscast is pimped out beyond what is probably legal in the USA. How is it they were having such awful problems all this time. This just does not make sense that after 65 years in San Diego they suddenly just lost their business touch. Maybe it's just bad luck? Why not just kill the news and keep CW? Is news a CW requirement? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15532-san-diego-cw-affiliation-moving-from-xetv-to-kfmb/page/9/#findComment-169620 Share on other sites More sharing options...
A3N 1002 Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 I don't get it. XETV has plenty of paid spots...the newscast is pimped out beyond what is probably legal in the USA. How is it they were having such awful problems all this time. This just does not make sense that after 65 years in San Diego they suddenly just lost their business touch. Maybe it's just bad luck? Why not just kill the news and keep CW? Is news a CW requirement? Not bad luck, just bad management. From top to bottom. Honestly, if they had someone competent running the things atop, they would still have the CW and the news department. There was ways to make the XETV operations work, it only required some creativity and competence. You can't have one without the other- not in this day and age. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15532-san-diego-cw-affiliation-moving-from-xetv-to-kfmb/page/9/#findComment-169624 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleSeven 1955 Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 I will never understand why they got rid of the "San Diego 6" branding and "kiss-up" to the network and brand it "CW 6", only for that said network to take the affiliation from under them the following year. ' I will never understand that. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15532-san-diego-cw-affiliation-moving-from-xetv-to-kfmb/page/9/#findComment-169667 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eat News 4745 Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 Does anyone really know what the circumstances surrounding the loss of CW at XETV? Are we all so sure that CW "yanked" the affiliation? Or did XETV just pass on renewal? I'm starting to get confused. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15532-san-diego-cw-affiliation-moving-from-xetv-to-kfmb/page/9/#findComment-169669 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED2 144 Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 Does anyone really know what the circumstances surrounding the loss of CW at XETV? Are we all so sure that CW "yanked" the affiliation? Or did XETV just pass on renewal? I'm starting to get confused. That's kinda what it sounded like according to XETV's GM... http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/entertainment/tv/sd-et-television-20170126-story.html Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15532-san-diego-cw-affiliation-moving-from-xetv-to-kfmb/page/9/#findComment-169671 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frog 429 Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 Does anyone really know what the circumstances surrounding the loss of CW at XETV? Are we all so sure that CW "yanked" the affiliation? Or did XETV just pass on renewal? I'm starting to get confused. “The contract we had with the CW was up for negotiation in September,” Dunning said Thursday night. “We went back and forth and really couldn’t come to terms. So they went into the marketplace and found that they could do business with KFMB. “It’s not by choice that we are parting ways with the CW. It’s a very well-run organization, but the business terms just didn’t mesh. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15532-san-diego-cw-affiliation-moving-from-xetv-to-kfmb/page/9/#findComment-169672 Share on other sites More sharing options...
A3N 1002 Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 The CW is in a better position now than they were back in 2008. The fact that Tribune/KSWB dumped the network for FOX, and the ratings woes at the time left the network scrambling to find an affiliate here in San Diego, so they most likely had no choice (or better option) than XETV. So, my guess is that this time around the CW head honchos tried to squeeze a few extra pennies out of XETV and they just couldn't meet their asking price. Or, how's this for a crazy conspiracy theory... When KFMB renewed their CBS network affiliation, they had a clause put in to have first crack at the CW affiliation once the relationship expired with XETV. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15532-san-diego-cw-affiliation-moving-from-xetv-to-kfmb/page/9/#findComment-169674 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eat News 4745 Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 That's kinda what it sounded like according to XETV's GM... http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/entertainment/tv/sd-et-television-20170126-story.html Thank you, That answers that for me. I had missed that part of the story completely. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15532-san-diego-cw-affiliation-moving-from-xetv-to-kfmb/page/9/#findComment-169680 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickp 337 Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 KFMB’s Mier y Terán believes that number may be high, but said he has already been in contact with some CW6 news team members about employment possibilities. He envisions the news programming on both KFMB and its new CW affiliate will benefit from new and shared resources. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15532-san-diego-cw-affiliation-moving-from-xetv-to-kfmb/page/9/#findComment-169685 Share on other sites More sharing options...
A3N 1002 Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 KFMB’s Mier y Terán believes that number may be high, but said he has already been in contact with some CW6 news team members about employment possibilities. He envisions the news programming on both KFMB and its new CW affiliate will benefit from new and shared resources. If you're going to rip something from another source, you should probably attribute it, and add some context to it. Otherwise it comes across as a random opinion. FWIW, the excerpt is part of that same article cited above. KFMB's GM was responding to XETV's GM saying he employed about 150 people which Mier Y Teran responded "[...[ that number may be high, [...]). As far as some talent migrating over to KFMB from XETV, that had been discussed previously in the thread. It's still not a given it will happen, since we have not had any indication from anywhere as to who might jump ship. We'll know more in the next week or so. I imagine KFMB will start running promos for the new CW affiliation real soon, as we're getting down the wire. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15532-san-diego-cw-affiliation-moving-from-xetv-to-kfmb/page/9/#findComment-169687 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eat News 4745 Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 If you're going to rip something from another source, you should probably attribute it, and add some context to it. Otherwise it comes across as a random opinion. FWIW, the excerpt is part of that same article cited above. KFMB's GM was responding to XETV's GM saying he employed about 150 people which Mier Y Teran responded "[...[ that number may be high, [...]). As far as some talent migrating over to KFMB from XETV, that had been discussed previously in the thread. It's still not a given it will happen, since we have not had any indication from anywhere as to who might jump ship. We'll know more in the next week or so. I imagine KFMB will start running promos for the new CW affiliation real soon, as we're getting down the wire. 150 people??? Where did they all park? Well if the XETV GM thinks he employed anywhere near that amount, then I can understand why they failed. His payroll was out of control!!! I can tell you WHO might be high. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15532-san-diego-cw-affiliation-moving-from-xetv-to-kfmb/page/9/#findComment-169706 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eat News 4745 Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 I imagine KFMB will start running promos for the new CW affiliation real soon, as we're getting down the wire. I'm going to go out on the fin and say there will be NO promos of any type until after the switch. XETV may run a crawl in the final days. I'm sure KFMB is ready for the switch to be thrown, however the news stuff is still in development and I don't expect any kind of announcements from KFMB utill after the switch. Let them throw the switch and then let things settle out a bit. I'm getting the feeling that XETV may be a bit unpredictable in timelines and KFMB is being forced to compensate in some fashion. CW should be promoting the hell out of this with local celeb tie-ins, and all kinds of fluff and crap. You would also think KFMB would be promoting the hell out of this...but they are not. and... XETV should be promoting the hell out of whatever it is they are doing... But Nooooooo! Soooooo Strange..... Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15532-san-diego-cw-affiliation-moving-from-xetv-to-kfmb/page/9/#findComment-169708 Share on other sites More sharing options...
A3N 1002 Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 I'm going to go out on the fin and say there will be NO promos of any type until after the switch. XETV may run a crawl in the final days. I'm sure KFMB is ready for the switch to be thrown, however the news stuff is still in development and I don't expect any kind of announcements from KFMB utill after the switch. Let them throw the switch and then let things settle out a bit. I'm getting the feeling that XETV may be a bit unpredictable in timelines and KFMB is being forced to compensate in some fashion. CW should be promoting the hell out of this with local celeb tie-ins, and all kinds of fluff and crap. You would also think KFMB would be promoting the hell out of this...but they are not. and... XETV should be promoting the hell out of whatever it is they are doing... But Nooooooo! Soooooo Strange..... It is a bit perplexing as to why they're soooo quiet. Do you remember back in '08 when XETV and KSWB were running a shit ton of promos for their new networks? The fact that KFMB is mum (aside from a few stories posted in the media) on this switch makes me wonder if they're working something behind the scenes with XETV to A.) secure the channel 6 spot on cable or B.) swallowing up some of their talent. You very well know that this is a heartless business, so why would KFMB extend XETV the courtesy of keeping quiet?.... Unless there's something they're working out behind the scenes. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15532-san-diego-cw-affiliation-moving-from-xetv-to-kfmb/page/9/#findComment-169710 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samantha 2895 Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 and... XETV should be promoting the hell out of whatever it is they are doing... But Nooooooo! Soooooo Strange..... There's no reason for them to, especially if XETV is going to exit US cable systems as appears likely and if KFMB will swallow the channel 6 slot. Best to not confuse non-OTA viewers. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15532-san-diego-cw-affiliation-moving-from-xetv-to-kfmb/page/9/#findComment-169711 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eat News 4745 Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 There's no reason for them to, especially if XETV is going to exit US cable systems as appears likely and if KFMB will swallow the channel 6 slot. Best to not confuse non-OTA viewers. That 6 slot is such a huge asset in SD. It just blows my mind that millions of dollars are not changing hands for that slot on the 2 local CATV's... Maybe it is....maybe no. But to abandon an entire TV market and leave all that money on the table for KFMB to just have for little investment? Bay Cities could just have killed the news dept and still made bank. I bet CW would just love to milk COX, Spectrum, KFMB and everyone else that gets robbed each time these people meet . You see the giant hole here? Or is it just me? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15532-san-diego-cw-affiliation-moving-from-xetv-to-kfmb/page/9/#findComment-169713 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eat News 4745 Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Ok how about this question Mr. Raymie or any qualified others... How would must carry apply in this situation (USA) when the service is on a sub channel and has no prior must carry status on the lower tiers. Can the CATV's be forced to give up a lower cable channel over a higher 12-99 channel? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15532-san-diego-cw-affiliation-moving-from-xetv-to-kfmb/page/9/#findComment-169715 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nathannah 2429 Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Ok how about this question Mr. Raymie or any qualified others... How would must carry apply in this situation (USA) when the service is on a sub channel and has no prior must carry status on the lower tiers. Can the CATV's be forced to give up a lower cable channel over a higher 12-99 channel? I know during the Journal mess, Time Warner Cable pulled the rug out from under Journal and sold their channel numbers to GSN, who still has them. It killed KMIR's 'cable 6' branding and put their sister MyNet station in the 90's in Palm Springs, though in the end they did keep the main HD positions. GSN purchased the channel number in those markets and it's iron-clad, just like when TBS preferred the 17 slot and WGN had 9 in the pre-superstation days. The best comparison though might be in Fargo with KRDK (the former KXJB), which argued must-carry to return to 4 on cable systems, while they had to shoo off a claim by KVLY-DT2 that they deserved the 4 slot through atrophy. That's CBS though; if you're an LD carrying something like YouToo America and want channel 3, it'll take many Brinks trucks and they'll still likely laugh you off in the end. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15532-san-diego-cw-affiliation-moving-from-xetv-to-kfmb/page/9/#findComment-169718 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEOMatrix 1299 Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Ok how about this question Mr. Raymie or any qualified others... How would must carry apply in this situation (USA) when the service is on a sub channel and has no prior must carry status on the lower tiers. Can the CATV's be forced to give up a lower cable channel over a higher 12-99 channel? The closest to this I remember is when the WB and UPN were going to merge into The CW and Fox created MyNetworkTV. WYTV in Youngstown was going to start up a in-house MNT subchannel, replacing WUAB. IIRC, Armstrong (one of the main cable companies in the area) basically replaced WUAB with "MyYTV" on channel 13. Time Warner, OTOH, kept WUAB on another year or two after joining MyNetworkTV on channel 6, despite Youngstown having its own MNT affiliate (and it could've had a good position next to WYTV's channel 5 position on TWC). Hopefully, KFMB is able to get the channel 6 position because XETV might not be watchable to most in San Diego, yet having a good position like channel 6 would be weird. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15532-san-diego-cw-affiliation-moving-from-xetv-to-kfmb/page/9/#findComment-169726 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eat News 4745 Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Ok folks... So I talked to the nice person at KFMB programming about the cable channel assignment come June 1st when the switch happens.... "I don't know". They said.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=id=_bxecKgdRyo;t=8 "It's being worked on at this time, but right now we don't know". They said they would have more for me / us in maybe another week. I will give them a few weeks cause they are going kinda crazy in there right now. No updates on the news situation which I should have updated in a few weeks also. Unfortunately one of my listening devices was disturbed, so I need a few days to re-set it. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15532-san-diego-cw-affiliation-moving-from-xetv-to-kfmb/page/9/#findComment-169730 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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