Eat News 4745 Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 Sinclair will be happy to sell anyone airtime with opposing opinions...just like any other station group will. Sounds like the "right" is staking claim...just like the "left" does. Sinclair is not going away...it's clear they are in for the fight. Consider that every single newsroom rips-off stories from the New York Times, WAPO and other very liberal publications on a daily basis. More power to them. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15610-sinclair-tribune-close-to-merger-deal/page/50/#findComment-179815 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgie56 3305 Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 The amazing thing is that WJW has been sold eight times since Storer Broadcasting, and they've thrived in spite of that instability. Sale number nine, in which Sinclair forcibly turns WJW into a soulless mouthpiece for the Republican Party capable of brainwashing the populace with fascist doctrine, may not be the charm. Check the comment section of that article for a surprise. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15610-sinclair-tribune-close-to-merger-deal/page/50/#findComment-179817 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Muck 4374 Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 Check the comment section of that article for a surprise. Cleveland.com's comments section has been infested with right wing nut jobs for a while. It's why I don't read the comments on that website, ever. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15610-sinclair-tribune-close-to-merger-deal/page/50/#findComment-179818 Share on other sites More sharing options...
channel2 979 Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 The amazing thing is that WJW has been sold eight times since Storer Broadcasting, and they've thrived in spite of that instability. Sale number nine, in which Sinclair forcibly turns WJW into a soulless mouthpiece for the Republican Party capable of brainwashing the populace with fascist doctrine, may not be the charm. KKR, Gillett, SCI, New World, Fox, Local TV, Tribune... Isn't Sinclair eight? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15610-sinclair-tribune-close-to-merger-deal/page/50/#findComment-179819 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleSeven 1955 Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 From today's Cleveland Plain Dealer on Sinclair's pending purchase of WJW and rest of Tribune stations. http://www.cleveland.com/tv-blog/index.ssf/2017/07/sinclair_purchase_of_channel_8_triggers_concerns_about_local_news_content.html#incart_river_home A letter from a surburban Portland, ME resident lead the Press-Herald to write their own piece about Sinclair and their "must-runs". KKR, Gillett, SCI, New World, Fox, Local TV, Tribune... Isn't Sinclair eight? Yep. Sinclair would be eight. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15610-sinclair-tribune-close-to-merger-deal/page/50/#findComment-179821 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEOMatrix 1299 Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 The amazing thing is that WJW has been sold eight times since Storer Broadcasting, and they've thrived in spite of that instability. Sale number nine, in which Sinclair forcibly turns WJW into a soulless mouthpiece for the Republican Party capable of brainwashing the populace with fascist doctrine, may not be the charm. Depends on how bad 3, 5, and especially 19 eff up. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15610-sinclair-tribune-close-to-merger-deal/page/50/#findComment-179822 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Muck 4374 Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 I blocked a certain troll because he was not worth arguing with. But his latest trolling was so pathetic, I want to dissect it. Sinclair will be happy to sell anyone airtime with opposing opinions...just like any other station group will. That's 100% bullshit. They haven't done that, and they will never do that. Quite dreaming. Sounds like the "right" is staking claim...just like the "left" does. Sinclair is not going away...it's clear they are in for the fight. The "liberal media" myth is the biggest piece of garbage that Roger Ailes successfully sold to a wide swath of gullible fools. What has Fox News and talk radio brought us? A voting block of politically illiterates who thought that a thrice-bankrupt venial used-car salesman could be a president and fulfill all of their racist and misogynist wet dreams. Sinclair wants to break the local political and social order, just like Fox and talk radio broke the national political and social order. Because the only winner is the Republican Party. You want fascism? Fine. Have at it. Consider that every single newsroom rips-off stories from the New York Times, WAPO and other very liberal publications on a daily basis. The NYT and WaPo have their wire news services. And it's cheap misers like the Smith Klan who will only pay for inexperienced people and give them zero resources. More power to them. For a right wing troll, you got annoying, really quick. Buh-bye. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15610-sinclair-tribune-close-to-merger-deal/page/50/#findComment-179824 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Muck 4374 Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 Depends on how bad 3, 5, and especially 19 eff up. WKYC (the market's number two station, even without a noon, 4 or 5 newscast) is already in a promotional campaign that they are a source of trust in an environment of fake news and unreliable information. Prove to me that's NOT an advanced shot at Sinclair and their Republican agitprop. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15610-sinclair-tribune-close-to-merger-deal/page/50/#findComment-179825 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eat News 4745 Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 I blocked a certain troll because he was not worth arguing with. But his latest trolling was so pathetic, I want to dissect it. That's 100% bullshit. They haven't done that, and they will never do that. . I blocked a certain troll because he was not worth arguing with. But his latest trolling was so pathetic, I want to dissect it. That's 100% bullshit. They haven't done that, and they will never do that. Quite dreaming. The "liberal media" myth is the biggest piece of garbage that Roger Ailes successfully sold to a wide swath of gullible fools. "The news and entertainment media loved Gore then and love him now. His silly “Inconvenient Sequel: Truth to Power” hits national theaters Aug. 4. To ensure the propaganda (Oops, documentary) is successful, Viacom is deploying 10 of its TV outlets to push the film. Viacom, which has “approximately 700 million global subscribers,” is harassing viewers on MTV, VH1, LOGO, Comedy Central, Spike, BET, CMT, TV Land, Nick@Nite and Teen Nick. MTV will actually air a town hall where, “Gore will be joined by rapper and Miami resident Fat Joe, as well as 17-year-old activist Delaney Reynolds; DJ and fellow Miami-born artist Steve Aoki will act as a correspondent.” Apparently, no sports mascots were also available. " From the most trusted source in news... Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15610-sinclair-tribune-close-to-merger-deal/page/50/#findComment-179827 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleSeven 1955 Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 The editorial board of the Kansas City Star seems to defend Sinclair's "must-runs" telling folks, if you don't like them, change the channel. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15610-sinclair-tribune-close-to-merger-deal/page/50/#findComment-179829 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEOMatrix 1299 Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 WKYC (the market's number two station, even without a noon, 4 or 5 newscast) is already in a promotional campaign that they are a source of trust in an environment of fake news and unreliable information. Prove to me that's NOT an advanced shot at Sinclair and their Republican agitprop. I'm actually glad that WKYC is gearing up for Sinclair taking over at S Marginal. They need to get as many of the Cuyahoga and Summit County viewers as possible because 8 won't fall thanks to the exurb and rural counties i.e. Portage, Geauga, Ashtabula, etc. They're the ones that will keep Fox 8 from slumming with "Hurl 5" and "Snoozefest 19". Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15610-sinclair-tribune-close-to-merger-deal/page/50/#findComment-179834 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Muck 4374 Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 Huh? Was some troll trying to instigate me into another p***ing match he can't win? Meh. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15610-sinclair-tribune-close-to-merger-deal/page/50/#findComment-179838 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Muck 4374 Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 I'm actually glad that WKYC is gearing up for Sinclair taking over at S Marginal. They need to get as many of the Cuyahoga and Summit County viewers as possible because 8 won't fall thanks to the exurb and rural counties i.e. Portage, Geauga, Ashtabula, etc. They're the ones that will keep Fox 8 from slumming with "Hurl 5" and "Snoozefest 19". ...until Sinclair fires all the high-priced talent. Their talent roster is huge and the Smith Klan's penny pinching will manifest itself in a bloodbath at South Marginal. In the end, WJW will be reduced to a Reich-friendly operation that only appeals to the Republican exurbs and rural communities. The Smith Klan, with their desire to destroy society with their fascist agitprop, will kill the goose with the golden egg. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15610-sinclair-tribune-close-to-merger-deal/page/50/#findComment-179839 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyrannical bastard 3953 Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 WKYC has been a very stable station over the last 15 years, even after losing Tim White & Romona Robinson over $$$, and having the Gannett/Tegna mandates being shoved down their throats. Of all of the Tegna stations, they have seemed to be the LEAST affected, given the turmoil and constant changes over at 5 and 19. Even before the possibility of Sinclair owning WJW ever existed, WKYC had a promo campaign centered around "Report The Facts....Respect The Truth"... This was back in 2008 before the Great Recession wreaked havoc on the media landscape. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15610-sinclair-tribune-close-to-merger-deal/page/50/#findComment-179844 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEOMatrix 1299 Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 ...until Sinclair fires all the high-priced talent. Their talent roster is huge and the Smith Klan's penny pinching will manifest itself in a bloodbath at South Marginal. In the end, WJW will be reduced to a Reich-friendly operation that only appeals to the Republican exurbs and rural communities. The Smith Klan, with their desire to destroy society with their fascist agitprop, will kill the goose with the golden egg. The era of Cleveland TV sucking has begun! Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15610-sinclair-tribune-close-to-merger-deal/page/50/#findComment-179847 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eat News 4745 Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 In the end, WJW will be reduced to a Reich-friendly operation that only appeals to the Republican exurbs and rural communities.... The Klan, with their desire to destroy society with their fascist agitprop, will kill the goose with the golden egg. My apologies to the Reich... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=id=HPXHRX8Q2hs;t=18 Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15610-sinclair-tribune-close-to-merger-deal/page/50/#findComment-179850 Share on other sites More sharing options...
doublejman69 124 Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 First whats with all the partisan hackery in this thread? With all the stories that come out about Sinclair (almost weekly) we never hear about the ratings. It would be interesting to compare station ratings from the old owners to stations under Sinclair's ownership (KOMO, KATU ABC33/40, KSNV etc.) The only one I've seen so far was about WJLA and that station has seen increases in some newscasts. Its not hard for writers to get the ratings if these stations ratings are free falling... Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15610-sinclair-tribune-close-to-merger-deal/page/50/#findComment-179851 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eat News 4745 Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 First whats with all the partisan hackery in this thread? With all the stories that come out about Sinclair (almost weekly) we never hear about the ratings. It would be interesting to compare station ratings from the old owners to stations under Sinclair's ownership (KOMO, KATU ABC33/40, KSNV etc.) The only one I've seen so far was about WJLA and that station has seen increases in some newscasts. Its not hard for writers to get the ratings if these stations ratings are free falling... The ratings book is a confidential report that exist between the ratings company and the client (tv stations). You (the public) gets to see only what they release...nothing more. The ratings company is under no obligation to tell YOU (the public) the truth about anything contained in that Report. So just for fun... Ask your local TV writer to show you the actual ratings that they are reporting on...they won't...because they can't...because Nielsen and Comscore only release a very small snippet of actual ratings. Your local station can embellish all they want. You don't buy the ad time. And what is released is useless to anyone...except YOU (the public)...because without the WHOLE ratings breakdown those snippets are useless as a metric. " We are #1...and you can't prove otherwise!" That's how it works. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15610-sinclair-tribune-close-to-merger-deal/page/50/#findComment-179852 Share on other sites More sharing options...
doublejman69 124 Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 The ratings book is a confidential report that exist between the ratings company and the client (tv stations). You (the public) gets to see only what they release...nothing more. The ratings company is under no obligation to tell YOU (the public) the truth about anything contained in that Report. So just for fun... Ask your local TV writer to show you the actual ratings that they are reporting on...they won't...because they can't...because Nielsen and Comscore only release a very small snippet of actual ratings. Your local station can embellish all they want. You don't buy the ad time. And what is released is useless to anyone...except YOU (the public)...because without the WHOLE ratings breakdown those snippets are useless as a metric. " We are #1...and you can't prove otherwise!" That's how it works. Yes, you're 100 percent right but if a Sinclair station is taking a dump in the ratings the worst part of it will get leaked. There is a huge target on Sinclair. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15610-sinclair-tribune-close-to-merger-deal/page/50/#findComment-179857 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eat News 4745 Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 Yes, you're 100 percent right but if a Sinclair station is taking a dump in the ratings the worst part of it will get leaked. There is a huge target on Sinclair. When a station takes a huge dump in ratings it's obvious...and Sinclair has plenty of shi%&y places to dump. I'm not here to defend Sinclair, I'm just defending free speech. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15610-sinclair-tribune-close-to-merger-deal/page/50/#findComment-179858 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Muck 4374 Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 Even before the possibility of Sinclair owning WJW ever existed, WKYC had a promo campaign centered around "Report The Facts....Respect The Truth"... This was back in 2008 before the Great Recession wreaked havoc on the media landscape. That campaign was a direct response to WOIO and 19 Action News, IIRC, after the infamous "Body of Art" stunt. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15610-sinclair-tribune-close-to-merger-deal/page/50/#findComment-179863 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyrannical bastard 3953 Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 I miss 19 Action News....I really do. The ratings trends are going to be inertia, plain and simple. If a company screws up a station, viewers will turn away and the lower ranked station will rise with the shrinking pool of viewers to go around. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15610-sinclair-tribune-close-to-merger-deal/page/50/#findComment-179870 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mre29 1525 Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 This would be a good time for Hearst and similar companies to start acquiring more stations in markets Sinclair is in or will be in, wouldn't it? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15610-sinclair-tribune-close-to-merger-deal/page/50/#findComment-179872 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganNewsGraphicsJunkie 915 Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 I would love to see Hearst in the Grand Rapids/Kalamazoo MI market Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15610-sinclair-tribune-close-to-merger-deal/page/50/#findComment-179877 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgie56 3305 Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 First whats with all the partisan hackery in this thread? With all the stories that come out about Sinclair (almost weekly) we never hear about the ratings. It would be interesting to compare station ratings from the old owners to stations under Sinclair's ownership (KOMO, KATU ABC33/40, KSNV etc.) The only one I've seen so far was about WJLA and that station has seen increases in some newscasts. Its not hard for writers to get the ratings if these stations ratings are free falling... It could be that most of TVNT is center-left. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15610-sinclair-tribune-close-to-merger-deal/page/50/#findComment-179878 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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