ColDayNews 438 Posted April 15, 2018 Author Share Posted April 15, 2018 They started at 4:30 a.m. in 2007? Yup, they’ve been starting at 4:30 a.m. since 2001. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16307-fox-and-sinclair-finalizing-purchase-of-six-stations/page/7/#findComment-201542 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfc513 235 Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 WXIX/Cincinnati briefly used a version of these graphics back in 2007 in promos for their morning news and the 10pm news. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkXKGWEqCJE <— FOX19 Morning News promo from 2007 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YeavbIvVRc <— 10pm promo “The Most Powerful Name in Primetime News” sound familiar? And with Greg O’Neill! I never realized that! Also, that graphic at the beginning of the morning news promo looks familiar nowadays - it's from the the 2nd generation O&O look (you can see it at 0:44 in this demo reel) [MEDIA=vimeo]17683240[/MEDIA] Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16307-fox-and-sinclair-finalizing-purchase-of-six-stations/page/7/#findComment-201543 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColDayNews 438 Posted April 15, 2018 Author Share Posted April 15, 2018 I never realized that! Also, that graphic at the beginning of the morning news promo looks familiar nowadays - it's from the the 2nd generation O&O look (you can see it at 0:44 in this demo reel) [MEDIA=vimeo]17683240[/MEDIA] This was also around the time they were trying to stunt with an FNC-style branding. Their newscasts, to this day, remind me of a Fox O&O’s newscasts. I wouldn’t mind seeing WXIX as Fox O&O, seeing as they’re trying to get as many NFL markets as they can. Aren’t they currently #1 in the mornings and at 10? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16307-fox-and-sinclair-finalizing-purchase-of-six-stations/page/7/#findComment-201544 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfc513 235 Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 This was also around the time they were trying to stunt with an FNC-style branding. Their newscasts, to this day, remind me of a Fox O&O’s newscasts. I wouldn’t mind seeing WXIX as Fox O&O, seeing as they’re trying to get as many NFL markets as they can. Aren’t they currently #1 in the mornings and at 10? I'm not sure about mornings, but I'm pretty sure they're #1 at 10pm. Also... - I don't think Raycom wants to get rid of WXIX anytime soon. - Didn't Fox consider buying WSTR from Sinclair? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16307-fox-and-sinclair-finalizing-purchase-of-six-stations/page/7/#findComment-201548 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRolyPoly 2449 Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 Yup, they’ve been starting at 4:30 a.m. since 2001. Wait WHAT?! They've been up at 4:30 a.m. since 2001?! 17 years of waking Cincy viewers up at 4:30 a.m.? Not the first (KIRO did it in 1990) but certainly the longest, if true, 9 years before everyone else started doing it. (Don't mean to go off-topic but this fact shocked me.) Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16307-fox-and-sinclair-finalizing-purchase-of-six-stations/page/7/#findComment-201549 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfc513 235 Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 You know what's really shocking? News at 4:30am in 1990. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16307-fox-and-sinclair-finalizing-purchase-of-six-stations/page/7/#findComment-201550 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRolyPoly 2449 Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 You know what's really shocking? News at 4:30am in 1990. I'll stop going off-topic after this post but... you know what's even more shocking? WVTM with weekend morning news at 4:30 a.m. (TitanTV, TV Passport and even Zap2it list it) Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16307-fox-and-sinclair-finalizing-purchase-of-six-stations/page/7/#findComment-201554 Share on other sites More sharing options...
channel2 979 Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 There must be an alternate universe where WXIX is a Fox O&O, given the station's Metromedia ownership. (It and what is now KARE were divested to make room for WFLD and KNBN) Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16307-fox-and-sinclair-finalizing-purchase-of-six-stations/page/7/#findComment-201560 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darius22 122 Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 my guess at what happens to WJW is that they can keep their former O&O branding until they get the current gen Fox O&O graphics and maybe an updated set. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16307-fox-and-sinclair-finalizing-purchase-of-six-stations/page/7/#findComment-201562 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColDayNews 438 Posted April 15, 2018 Author Share Posted April 15, 2018 my guess at what happens to WJW is that they can keep their former O&O branding until they get the current gen Fox O&O graphics and maybe an updated set. They’ve been phasing out their O&O branding gradually since 2015. They no longer use the 1st-gen graphics. They still use the Fox News inspired set from 2007 and the Greg O’Neill VO. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16307-fox-and-sinclair-finalizing-purchase-of-six-stations/page/7/#findComment-201570 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dman748 1256 Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 Is there anything new that's related to the whole Fox-Sinclair deal? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16307-fox-and-sinclair-finalizing-purchase-of-six-stations/page/7/#findComment-201579 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mre29 1537 Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 I'll stop going off-topic after this post but... you know what's even more shocking? WVTM with weekend morning news at 4:30 a.m. (TitanTV, TV Passport and even Zap2it list it) There's actually demand for 4:30am news on weekends in the Birmingham area? That's nuts. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16307-fox-and-sinclair-finalizing-purchase-of-six-stations/page/7/#findComment-201587 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasTVNews 1377 Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 Now I know why I don't get up this way early in the morning. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16307-fox-and-sinclair-finalizing-purchase-of-six-stations/page/7/#findComment-201592 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eat News 4745 Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 Is there anything new that's related to the whole Fox-Sinclair deal? I think this whole deal has caused me to get pimples on my butt. Anyway... Don't you all think that 3 major companies placing "live" mics operating 24/7 into our homes and businesses is a bigger deal? What if a TV reporter came to your house and placed a "hot mic" in your home? Or a cop? But this crappy little Sinclair deal is what get's ya'll spinning up? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16307-fox-and-sinclair-finalizing-purchase-of-six-stations/page/7/#findComment-201600 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megatron81 263 Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 I really liked this package... Only thing i disliked was the gray font color.. made it hard to read Same here I liked that Fox 17 logo was surprise they ditched it so fast then went with Fox O&O look in 2010 or 11. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16307-fox-and-sinclair-finalizing-purchase-of-six-stations/page/7/#findComment-201614 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Muck 4378 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 Is there anything new that's related to the whole Fox-Sinclair deal? Well, as it is entirely contingent on the actual Sinclair-Tribune merger getting approved... no. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16307-fox-and-sinclair-finalizing-purchase-of-six-stations/page/7/#findComment-201769 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyrannical bastard 3955 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 This whole deal is just like the Trump administration....a mess, full of empty promises and hot air. I wonder which one will collapse first? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16307-fox-and-sinclair-finalizing-purchase-of-six-stations/page/7/#findComment-201775 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Muck 4378 Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 This whole deal is just like the Trump administration....a mess, full of empty promises and hot air. I wonder which one will collapse first? No clue, but this new season of House of Cards sucks. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16307-fox-and-sinclair-finalizing-purchase-of-six-stations/page/7/#findComment-201857 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SS8609 59 Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 That would never work here in NY with Fox5 considering we have 2 MLB, 2 NFL, 2 NBA and 3 NHL teams of varying colors and shades. Other cities with multiple teams (even not in the same sports) are not as color coordinated. In reality, Fox needs major updates to their graphics and sets (I won't touch the more important content which is an issue too). They could color coordinate with red, white and blue considering Fox carries more of the Giants than the Jets. The baseball teams use blue already, with the Yankees' blue being a darker shade, so blue will be the dominant color. They could also pattern according to the colors of the city flag, with WFLD in Chicago using the sky blue of the stripes on the city flag to go with the bright red of the stars on it, and WTXF potentially using royal blue and gold from the Philadelphia flag. Texas may be hard to distinguish given Dallas and Houston have flags dominated by the Lone Star flag colors, but they could utilize a burnt orange color pattern for KTBC in Austin to go with the Longhorns. WNYW already has a color scheme. the default colors are Yankees colors anyway. but what i'd do is have their sister stations (MyNetworkTV) use an alternate color scheme from the FOX station it comes from, much similar to CBS's Independent stations (KTXA, KCAL, WLNY) That might depend on whether or not Fox decides to gut MyNetworkTV graphics from all its junior stations and rebrand them as secondary Fox affiliates (i.e. Fox 9 New Jersey, Fox 13 Plus, etc.) that don't end up with the CW a la WPWR/Chicago. I can see KTXH/Houston rebranding as "Fox 20 Xtra". PLEASE don't let this happened to WSFL! FOX is fine with WSVN. WSVN will likely remain with Fox if the Ansin family pays them enough hush money + negotiates to wrestle the Fox affiliation from WFXT and enable Cox to sell that station to NBC (which in turn would resolve the WBTS debacle there). From a graphical standpoint, the O&Os are due for a refresh/redo anyway (the current look dates mostly to ... 2013?) and almost all of them have scrapped the generic 2006-era news set anyway. Look at the slight level of freedom KTVU was given graphics-wise after they became an O&O. Chances are they'll allow KCPQ that same exceptions. I actually have a much better graphics design for the Fox O&Os I'd be glad to present to the concepts/what if section. At least let WTVT/Tampa keep its distinctive "13" and readopt its colors to personalize it KCPQ style. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16307-fox-and-sinclair-finalizing-purchase-of-six-stations/page/7/#findComment-202083 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLETVFan 367 Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 Is there anything new that's related to the whole Fox-Sinclair deal? Some updates regarding the 23 stations that are going to be sold off as part of the Sinclair-Tribune deal. https://seekingalpha.com/pr/17139619-sinclair-enters-agreements-sell-tv-stations-related-closing-tribune-media-acquisition The "TBA" is likely FOX. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16307-fox-and-sinclair-finalizing-purchase-of-six-stations/page/7/#findComment-202319 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFloTVClassics 973 Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 Some updates regarding the 23 stations that are going to be sold off as part of the Sinclair-Tribune deal. https://seekingalpha.com/pr/17139619-sinclair-enters-agreements-sell-tv-stations-related-closing-tribune-media-acquisition The "TBA" is likely FOX. Oh. I hope scripps gets WXLV. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16307-fox-and-sinclair-finalizing-purchase-of-six-stations/page/7/#findComment-202321 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalItalian2 163 Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 Some updates regarding the 23 stations that are going to be sold off as part of the Sinclair-Tribune deal. https://seekingalpha.com/pr/17139619-sinclair-enters-agreements-sell-tv-stations-related-closing-tribune-media-acquisition The "TBA" is likely FOX. More info on the new proposed sale & buyers https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-04-24/sinclair-agrees-to-sell-23-tv-stations-as-part-of-tribune-deal Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16307-fox-and-sinclair-finalizing-purchase-of-six-stations/page/7/#findComment-202322 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalItalian2 163 Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 "Nine of the smaller-market stations will be acquired by Standard Media, backed by hedge fund Standard General. Broadcasting veteran Deb McDermott has been recruited to serve as president-CEO of Standard Media." http://variety.com/2018/tv/news/sinclair-tribune-media-station-sales-merger-1202785468/amp/ Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16307-fox-and-sinclair-finalizing-purchase-of-six-stations/page/7/#findComment-202324 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalItalian2 163 Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 St. Louis station story http://www.stltoday.com/business/local/kplr-among-stations-being-sold-to-clear-sinclair-s-takeover/article_b9a5e295-53a8-5d45-94de-3091fbb46191.amp.html Cleveland station story https://articles.cleveland.com/tv-blog/index.ssf/2018/04/channel_8_will_not_be_sold_to_sinclair_broadcast_group.amp Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16307-fox-and-sinclair-finalizing-purchase-of-six-stations/page/7/#findComment-202328 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFloTVClassics 973 Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 St. Louis station story http://www.stltoday.com/business/local/kplr-among-stations-being-sold-to-clear-sinclair-s-takeover/article_b9a5e295-53a8-5d45-94de-3091fbb46191.amp.html Cleveland station story https://articles.cleveland.com/tv-blog/index.ssf/2018/04/channel_8_will_not_be_sold_to_sinclair_broadcast_group.amp ABC be clever about this and switch to KPLR, While you Still can. This is your last chance if any! Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16307-fox-and-sinclair-finalizing-purchase-of-six-stations/page/7/#findComment-202330 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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