NEOMatrix 1299 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2018/lifestyle/sinclair-broadcasting/?utm_term=.77cd2eb37cb8 In Sinclair’s defense, Nexstar is a big offender of this with WKBN/WYTV, WBRE/WYOU, or any other one of its Big-4 twin sticks as well. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16335-sinclair-and-tribune-part-2-the-redux/page/7/#findComment-204039 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dman748 1256 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 And as posted in the other thread, Free Press has brought evidence of standing to court which reads in part: "Neither this nor any other Court has held that organizations must identify particular viewer-members to obtain standing to review an FCC ownership rulemaking," Free Press told the court. "While standing claims can be raised at any time, Petitioners’ reasonable belief was reinforced because after the 2009 Summers decision, similar standing claims have gone unchallenged in this Court." What's intresting about this is the fact that Free Press admitted that had mistakenly believed that the record already supported that standing, though argued it had reason for believing that was the case. So I don't know which way the courts should lean towards because right now it's 50-50 (could go either way) so we'll see what the courts have to say about this Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16335-sinclair-and-tribune-part-2-the-redux/page/7/#findComment-204049 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomadcowatbk 149 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 The sale of KDNL to another competent owner might spur them to actually do something with the television station, unless Sinclair takes the ABC affiliation with it. spectrum bait? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16335-sinclair-and-tribune-part-2-the-redux/page/7/#findComment-204050 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samantha 2896 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 spectrum bait? Too late for that. I suspect just the ability to more efficiently capture political in two states (MO and IL) with newscasts would increase the value of the station. Even a mid-market buyer like a Nexstar would do well here (I think Hearst or Scripps would be a decent fit for St. Louis or Indianapolis, but each of those is not quite them). It'd probably need to be someone with experience building news ops from scratch, which is why Nexstar would be a good fit (see WATN, which is in a rather comparable market structurally). Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16335-sinclair-and-tribune-part-2-the-redux/page/7/#findComment-204052 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomadcowatbk 149 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 Too late for that. I suspect just the ability to more efficiently capture political in two states (MO and IL) with newscasts would increase the value of the station. . IL is a solid blue state, MO is a safe republican state at the presidential level but still has competitive down ballot races Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16335-sinclair-and-tribune-part-2-the-redux/page/7/#findComment-204056 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Muck 4378 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 In Sinclair’s defense, Nexstar is a big offender of this with WKBN/WYTV, WBRE/WYOU, or any other one of its Big-4 twin sticks as well. WKBN/WYTV predated Nexstar - and even LIN... it was New Vision (and shell Parkin) that did the consolidation back in 2007. At least Media General recently gave WYTV a separate "look" for the newscasts despite using the same personnel. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16335-sinclair-and-tribune-part-2-the-redux/page/7/#findComment-204058 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEOMatrix 1299 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 WKBN/WYTV predated Nexstar - and even LIN... it was New Vision (and shell Parkin) that did the consolidation back in 2007. It was Media General that recently gave WYTV a separate "look" for the newscasts despite using the same personnel. Fixed! Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16335-sinclair-and-tribune-part-2-the-redux/page/7/#findComment-204061 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mre29 1537 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 Even a mid-market buyer like a Nexstar would do well here (I think Hearst or Scripps would be a decent fit for St. Louis or Indianapolis, but each of those is not quite them). Except that Scripps is already in Indianapolis via WRTV. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16335-sinclair-and-tribune-part-2-the-redux/page/7/#findComment-204065 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samantha 2896 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 Except that Scripps is already in Indianapolis via WRTV. Duh, it's been a bit. Still, Scripps wouldn't be the worst fit for St. Louis. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16335-sinclair-and-tribune-part-2-the-redux/page/7/#findComment-204072 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrtraveler01 738 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 Too late for that. I suspect just the ability to more efficiently capture political in two states (MO and IL) with newscasts would increase the value of the station. Even a mid-market buyer like a Nexstar would do well here (I think Hearst or Scripps would be a decent fit for St. Louis or Indianapolis, but each of those is not quite them). It'd probably need to be someone with experience building news ops from scratch, which is why Nexstar would be a good fit (see WATN, which is in a rather comparable market structurally). Hearst could pair KDNL with KMBC like Meredith does with KCTV and KMOV. But I dont see Hearst wanting to invest in what is essentially a start up operation. Nexstar would probably be a better fit because they do have a track record in starting news operations from the ground up. Even if we do complain about them being on the cheap side. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16335-sinclair-and-tribune-part-2-the-redux/page/7/#findComment-204073 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mre29 1537 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 Duh, it's been a bit. Still, Scripps wouldn't be the worst fit for St. Louis. For KDNL, anything would be an improvement. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16335-sinclair-and-tribune-part-2-the-redux/page/7/#findComment-204074 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eat News 4745 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 Nexstar would probably be a better fit because they do have a track record in starting news operations from the ground up. Even if we do complain about them being on the cheap side. Can that market support another news operation??? If so...then will that newscast be one of upmost quality...or just more crap? We know crap sells... And we know sex sells... When you mix sex with crap you end up with a fetish. I think STL will be just fine with the current crappy news operations already in town. Trust this....No operator is going into STL to "make a difference" cuz those days are long gone. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16335-sinclair-and-tribune-part-2-the-redux/page/7/#findComment-204086 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmasters1 404 Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2018/lifestyle/sinclair-broadcasting/?utm_term=.77cd2eb37cb8 Cannot read-- the Post insists that I subscribe! Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16335-sinclair-and-tribune-part-2-the-redux/page/7/#findComment-204171 Share on other sites More sharing options...
doublejman69 124 Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 It’s been a couple of years since I’ve seen revenue projections for the St. Louis market but for the top 3 stations wasn’t all the great, about on a par with mid 30 market top 3 stations. It’s very doubtful that another news operation would bring in new viewers or new advertising money, it would be taking viewers and advertising money from the other stations. With St. Louis having low growth and an aging population it’s highly doubtful the market could support another news operation. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16335-sinclair-and-tribune-part-2-the-redux/page/7/#findComment-204189 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasTVNews 1377 Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 https://www.broadcastingcable.com/news/conservative-pac-attacks-sinclair-tribune Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16335-sinclair-and-tribune-part-2-the-redux/page/7/#findComment-204193 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEOMatrix 1299 Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 https://www.broadcastingcable.com/news/conservative-pac-attacks-sinclair-tribune You know it's crazy when even a Conservative organization opposes the merger. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16335-sinclair-and-tribune-part-2-the-redux/page/7/#findComment-204196 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dman748 1256 Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 https://www.broadcastingcable.com/news/conservative-pac-attacks-sinclair-tribune Might as well call off the merger and call it a day (or as Chris Ripley suggested just let it die) because this deal has more people against the merger than there are for the merger Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16335-sinclair-and-tribune-part-2-the-redux/page/7/#findComment-204208 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEOMatrix 1299 Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 Might as well call off the merger and call it a day (or as Chris Ripley suggested just let it die) because this deal has more people against the merger than there are for the merger As Myron has said, Sinclair isn’t worried because they still got Pai. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16335-sinclair-and-tribune-part-2-the-redux/page/7/#findComment-204209 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalItalian2 163 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 Might as well call off the merger and call it a day (or as Chris Ripley suggested just let it die) because this deal has more people against the merger than there are for the merger Business is not stopped in America by organizations who have agendas. This merger is going through. Period. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16335-sinclair-and-tribune-part-2-the-redux/page/7/#findComment-204214 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgie56 3307 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 You know it's crazy when even a Conservative organization opposes the merger. Even Newsmax opposed the merger. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16335-sinclair-and-tribune-part-2-the-redux/page/7/#findComment-204216 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dman748 1256 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 Business is not stopped in America by organizations who have agendas. This merger is going through. Period. I'd be amazed if this merger with THIS amount of opposition from BOTH sides goes through and gets done, regardless of the outcome from the courts related to the UHF Discount (therefore, the merger) Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16335-sinclair-and-tribune-part-2-the-redux/page/7/#findComment-204218 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSSZNews 1051 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 I'd be amazed if this merger with THIS amount of opposition from BOTH sides goes through and gets done, regardless of the outcome from the courts related to the UHF Discount (therefore, the merger) The thing is, now there are more major stakeholders in this besides Sinclair. A key component of New FOX's strategy and success going forward hinges on it getting those stations once the merger goes through and generating that additional football revenue. This is quickly becoming one of those "too big to fail" scenarios where a lot of things can go bad and a lot of jobs are at stake if this doesn't proceed. While I personally find that a bit lousy, it may be reason enough to bend the rules and let this go through now. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16335-sinclair-and-tribune-part-2-the-redux/page/7/#findComment-204222 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eat News 4745 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 Even Newsmax opposed the merger. Are the shareholders of Sinclair against this deal ? Are any laws being broken ? Sinclair is doing what the govt is asking for. So if they comply with request of the govt there is NO reason NOT to grant the transaction. The "news coverage will suffer" is no longer a valid excuse in the land of the "Information Super-Highway" There is plenty of news and information available to everyone...and plenty of different views from all over the political spectrum. All available to anyone in the USA for free. Sinclair skewing right is just tough titties...the vast majority of US broadcasters skew left...that's called freedom of speech. If the alt-left , antifa, the dems, camp bernie or The Clinton Foundation want to buy a bunch of TV stations to spew the liberal word then there is nothing stopping them. It's called freedom of speech. And some of us fought for that right...and some of my friends ( and maybe yours) died for that right. A right that covers both democrats, republicans...even the commies. Sinclair may be a bunch of jerks, assholes, bean counters...alt-right...whatever. But they deserve that same "tolerance" you afford to others in the community. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16335-sinclair-and-tribune-part-2-the-redux/page/7/#findComment-204228 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Muck 4378 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 As Myron has said, Sinclair isn’t worried because they still got Pai. If Mignon Clyburn does not vote (remember, she resigned recently) should either Brendan Carr or Michael O'Rielly defect from Pai, then it's deadlocked with a 2-2 vote. Not that I expect a deadlock in the least, but that would be hilarious to witness. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16335-sinclair-and-tribune-part-2-the-redux/page/7/#findComment-204230 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RetroCirq 148 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 Are the shareholders of Sinclair against this deal ? Are any laws being broken ? Sinclair is doing what the govt is asking for. So if they comply with request of the govt there is NO reason NOT to grant the transaction. The "news coverage will suffer" is no longer a valid excuse in the land of the "Information Super-Highway" There is plenty of news and information available to everyone...and plenty of different views from all over the political spectrum. All available to anyone in the USA for free. Sinclair skewing right is just tough titties...the vast majority of US broadcasters skew left...that's called freedom of speech. If the alt-left , antifa, the dems, camp bernie or The Clinton Foundation want to buy a bunch of TV stations to spew the liberal word then there is nothing stopping them. It's called freedom of speech. And some of us fought for that right...and some of my friends ( and maybe yours) died for that right. A right that covers both democrats, republicans...even the commies. Sinclair may be a bunch of jerks, assholes, bean counters...alt-right...whatever. But they deserve that same "tolerance" you afford to others in the community. Wow. Usually, Eat, you're the jolly jokester here on TVNT, but now this deal has pushed you over the edge. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16335-sinclair-and-tribune-part-2-the-redux/page/7/#findComment-204231 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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