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  1. Personally, I hope ABC read them the riot act and made it perfectly clear that not airing JKL would be a violation of their affiliation agreement...but that's just me. I'd have preferred a full-throated public apology from Disney/ABC executives (including Iger) to Kimmel, his staff, and viewers, but this is good.
    7 points
  2. Seeing as the Kirk memorial wasn't shown on the Sinclair affiates after all, I assume Disney gave them a behind-the-scenes talking to and reminder of their affiliate obligations.
    5 points
  3. He also has a grudge against the NFL. He wanted to be an owner, settled for the Generals in the second class original USFL, then when a deal was made he was not offered to bring the team to the NFL or become an NFL owner.
    2 points
  4. You are wrong about most stations still able to pre-empt programming whenever they want in their contracts. Network affiliate agreements have changed. There may be a few exceptions, but it's not the norm anymore, especially for a large group of weak underperforming stations like Sinclair. Most Sinclair stations are last place, with horrible quality newscasts. They are not a desirable station group to affiliate with. Even stations way more important than the ones owned by Sinclair and Nexstar who used to get away with airing programming at different times are now forced to air network programming at the correct time when their affiliate agreement is renewed. You are also making a ridiculous comparison. First, the examples you provided are not even true, WSVN rarely pre-empts FOX programming anymore, but pre-empting a rare sporting event once in awhile is not the same as pre-empting 5 hours of programming per week, and you are wrong about WHDH, WHDH never actually pre-empted The Jay Leno Show, they wanted to, but NBC wouldn't let them, so no NBC does not blame WHDH for Jay Leno failing, WHDH aired Jay Leno just like NBC wanted. Then there is the fact that "Local" affiliates didn't object to carrying Jimmy Kimmel Live. The "local" affiliates had nothing to do with the decision. Right wing conglomerates who own the stations made the decision. It was not made at the station level at all. There is nothing normal or justifiable about what Nexstar and Sinclair did. If Disney had a backbone they would pull their affiliations from both groups, but Disney is terrified of upsetting the far right authoritarian government and evil dictator in the white house.
    2 points
  5. As a concerned viewer, you can, especially if they have a "complaint" line. However, do NOT do it as a news junkie, asking about talent moves and graphics, etc. And IF someone does do that, do NOT claim association with this forum and the greater community.
    2 points
  6. At the very least, the local stations are going to make sure that corporate starts standing down and letting them make their own programming decisions, both them and Nexstar, and the networks are going to begin to put in a nuclear option clause that they can pull if there's no critical local/national need to pre-empt a show. At least with NYPD Blue in the 90s you had the station GMs (except for the stubborn one at WLOX) humbled once they realized the alternate station airing it was killing whatever 60s sitcom replaced it in the ratings, and the blowback was locally limited. Personally I don't think they cared if Sinclair pre-empted a Friday rerun for something else, but having it revealed as a literal National News Desk infomercial disguised as a tribute was the last straw. The other thing is I don't think an apology is needed from the network since Bob, Dana and Jimmy worked it out like adults. We'll probably get some jibes tomorrow night about the C-suite, but it'll be harmless and most of the venom will be reserved for Nexstar and Sinclair for trying to police the rest of the network (WISN was already in promotional mode about tomorrow night's return today and ready to move on).
    1 point
  7. WJXT Jacksonville is the #1-rated Independent television station in the country. They started it and now its a masterclass as to how its done. (via WJXT on LinkedIn) It does mention other stations that air news, such as WPLG, WANF, WHDH, KTVK, KUSI, KCAL, and KSTC, among others. Yes, they even included stations like WTVZ, WMYV, WUAB, WRDC, and others because even they know that MyNetworkTV is NOT a network.
    1 point
  8. The damage has definitely been done. Sinclair is not about to be having any ABC affiliated stations come renewal time. I'm gonna call it now.
    1 point
  9. That is my question too. They should allow their viewers choice, including self censuring by not watching. Most of them are probably asleep by then anyway.
    1 point
  10. United Kingdom Today's the day. Even if they don't celebrate it on the air, its still worth mentioning. September 22nd, 1955. Happy 70th birthday to the BBC's biggest competitor...
    1 point
  11. Gray, Sinclair, Nexstar, etc don't have the money to acquire a major network.
    1 point
  12. The View FINALLY talking about the Kimmel mess in depth on today’s show
    1 point
  13. scenario two would be interesting... the possibility of the networks owning an O&O in every market.
    1 point
  14. Toni absolutely deserves it. She’s been doing it so long and is great. But as we’ve seen in the past they seem to pass over some of their in house people
    1 point
  15. ABC doesn't care about Celebrity Family Feud, a timeslot filler while they figure the Kimmel situation out. As seen above, a few other stations had already pre-empted it with more local news without consequence.
    1 point
  16. At last check, the special that was going to air Friday night only has ~27,000 views on YouTube. No wonder Sinclair reversed course at the last minute.
    1 point
  17. Out of genuine curiosity, what would be the alternative?
    1 point
  18. Sorry for being late. Life happens. Here's what's been happening in gotham city. WCBS: Comics Unleashed (syn) replaced by Funny you should ask as the former show takes hold of the post-colbert time slot at 12:35a this coming late monday, replacing the forgone After Midnight. FYSA still runs on sis station WLNY at 4p. Fire Country reruns (2x) replaces The Equalizer late night saturday at 12:05a. NCIS Hawaii (2x) late night sunday at 1:05a. WNBC: Matter of Fact with Soledad o' brien concluded the weekend of sept. 30. Nothing else much changed. WNYW: Person, place or thing, Pictionary and EXTRA (encore) replaced by TMZ rerun at 1:30p and People's Court at 2p, which moved from 4p. FOX 5 News Block (basically a 4p newscast, who you're kidding?) debuted 9/8 at 4p. "Family feud favorites" debuted this week at 12a leading into 25 words' 2nd run at 12:30a. Meanwhile, Battleground with SE Cupp, which aired during last year's presidential season for FOX O&Os, returned on FOX Local focused this time on the ongoing NYC mayoral race, thus its edition of "BG NYC: the fight for your vote" air at 11p, bumping Good night New York to 11:30p. It'll rerun at 4a before GD Wakeup and 1a on My9. Why don't they air other FOX local produced shows like 'Portia' or 'The Jason Show', which has since expanded to other FOX (non o&o) affiliates, on their or their My9 sked instead of treating more like a rerun farm is telling to me but I digress. WABC: "She's in the game" airs as a weekend filler (ex. one time sun morning at 5a) Nothing else changed. WWOR: Divorce Court airs solo at 8:30a, replacing People Puzzler. The former replays on FOX Soul at various times. Although the latter is still in syndie circuit, it's not appearing elsewhere as other stations relegated it to overnight or early morning since last year. GDNY simulcast its 9a hour on My9 starting this past week. "The noon" repeats at 1p, started last week. J-Hud + Sherri encores switch slots at 3p + 4p respectively. Dish Nation departed last week. Its spinoff, Side Dish, lives on at FOX Soul, YT and Tubi. Crime expose with Nancy o' Dell departs for WLNY 9/22. In turn, Family Feud will run 5-8p. That's 3 hours of feud, alongside the other hour at 10p, four total. Reminder that My9 is essentially an independent, not so exclusive + rerun program farm. If it's first run alone, it's airing elsewhere on other platforms. Also, MNTV in NOT a network, don't @ me. The sked resembles more of an abandoned parking lot at the old 9 broadcast plaza, waiting for demolition, but I digress. WPIX: Tribunal Justice (2x) airs at 11a, replacing Mathis Court, moving to WLNY. Live PD Presents (2x) airs at 3p, replacing the zombified Dr. Phil. WLNY: Scrambled up at 4a, Court cam at 4:30a, the 5:30a slot is filled with mystery + true crime filler featuring' cruise ship killers', 'alien discourse files', 'top secret files', 'almost unsolved', and 'heartland homicide', some featured from true crime network. Judge Milian's justice for the people runs 1x at 12p, making room for Mathis court (1x) at 12:30p. Crime expose moves from My9 to 10/55 at 3p, joining Icrime at 3:30p this monday. Fire Country + NCIS Hawaii reruns replace The equalizer at least on Saturday nights 8-10p. CBS Saturday morning gets a double run at 12p. American Housewife left syndie last week, so did the zombified Paternity Court.
    1 point
  19. I'm trying to catch up on this situation... Sinclair and Trump are on the same... all talk and no action. I have to wonder did they just chicken out, or did ABC threaten them with legal action for preempting their programming? If anything this should be the final straw for Sinclair, and if they lose the ABC affiliate base, the walls will start crumbling from within.
    1 point
  20. Christ. Why does everyone just so happen to have a merger deal going on now??? Is the timing coincidence, or were some companies waiting for a conservative administration hoping they'd get laxed monopoly policies?
    1 point
  21. The article is almost entirely speculation that Trump will interfere in the ESPN-NFL Network merger.
    1 point
  22. After yesterday’s developments, I think ABC brings back Kimmel, but he hangs it up and this season ends up being his last. He’s been talking about retirement, and this is a good exit point for him.
    1 point
  23. The ONLY thing that makes this a business decision for these companies is the fact that the United States now has a corrupt authoritarian government. Nobody is reporting that advertisers were planning to pull their advertising. It's not a good business decision for Nexstar and Sinclair to anger ABC when their stations need ABC A LOT more than ABC needs them. It makes sense when you want to buy more stations than allowed and need the corrupt FCC to change the rules for you. It's not a good business decision for ABC to cancel a highly rated successful show that is impossible to replace. Jimmy Kimmel Live airing on ABC excluding Sinclair & Nexstar stations will rate higher and get more ad revenue than anything that replaces Jimmy Kimmel Live with 100% ABC network coverage. Disney is willing to ruin ABC's late night lineup and destroy the ABC brand because the alternative of the U.S. government coming after Disney's more profitable assets is a bigger risk. It also makes business sense for a broadcaster in Russia to remove a highly rated extremely popular profitable show that upsets the Russian government. Disney does business in many countries with evil authoritarian governments, and they don't broadcast shows that are critical of those Governments either, they have simply added America to the list of countries they operate where being critical of the government is not accepted.
    1 point
  24. Sinclair's ABC stations didn't air the Charlie Kirk tribute tonight. Instead they stuck w/ ABC programming (Celebrity Family Feud reruns) and put the tribute on their youtube page. https://x.com/WeAreSinclair/status/1969241140219039979
    1 point
  25. Well, it looks like the same people who own a majority stake in Cox Media Group (WSB, WFTV, WSOC, WPXI, WHIO, etc.) also want to own a majority stake in Atletico Madrid. https://www.reuters.com/sports/soccer/atletico-de-madrid-owners-advanced-talks-sell-majority-stake-apollo-sources-say-2025-09-19/
    1 point
  26. Here's the thing that bothers me about this story. I frankly do not think that Jimmy Kimmel should be fired (or at least, as yet, suspended) from ABC. For those who claim a First Amendment violation occurred in this case, that applies in the context of government interference. Which would then beg the question of whether the FCC directly or indirectly caused Jimmy Kimmel to be suspended. As noted in the attached video clip from YouTube, a ABC reporter (in a news report on Good Morning America) implied that it was the decision of Brendan Carr to suspend Jimmy Kimmel. FCC chairman Brendan Carr went on podcaster Dana Loesch's program and unequivocally denied that claim not once but twice when the question was put to him. Link to both of the aforementioned: here. The strongest case that could be made at this point is not FCC interference but rather Nexstar and Sinclair deciding to violate their contracts. I do not represent what those contracts say specifically and whether they can exercise a right to pre-empt. I've heard antidotally that Nexstar and Sinclair stations were having complaints levied toward them by viewers after his comments. At the end of the day, Nexstar and Sinclair (like any private broadcasting business) are largely modeled and funded on selling advertisements and if those people are complaining/threatening to pull their ad revenue, then you take the course of action that is necessary. I won't link it but it is being widely reported (particularly by CNN) that Jimmy Kimmel was planning to "double down" on his statements instead of apologizing. Whether or not an apology is necessary is besides the point as that is subjective and generally each political camp will respond different to that. But the fact is that ABC was not okay with him "doubling down" and, apparently, that was the final catalyst for ABC to sideline Kimmel. I don't deny that Sinclair skewing right of center and Nexstar's proposed merger with Tegna may have been contributing factors in each of them deciding to pre-empt (notably they decided that before ABC itself sidelined Kimmel). I just don't know as to what of those, if any, factored in. But I can say with confidence is that this ultimately came down to a business decision by ABC due to significant headwinds by their broadcasting partners (Nexstar and Sinclair) if they did not.
    1 point
  27. I agree that late night has become too much politics, and all the hosts have the same opinions. I agree the best part of Kimmel's show is his non-political stuff. Jimmy Fallon is my favorite because he has the best politics vs fun balance, but apparently audiences want more politics because he's third in the ratings. I always skip Kimmel's monologue because he's a one topic act, Donald Trump every night for the last 10 years. BUT Kimmel was correct here. The right was desperate to not have Kirk's killer be one of them (a white American gun owner--per Utah's governor) and Trump seemed to mourn Kirk's death quickly as he hastily switched an interview topic to construction. This is different from Roseanne and Tucker Carlson's cancellations. Roseanne made a racist/islamophobic comment and Tucker Carlson spewed false election conspiracy theories. As much as both sides have practiced cancel culture and steered into extremism, one side has been more governmentally aggressive. This particular situation is not both sided. A president and his one specific political party are utilizing the government to silence specific opposing media viewpoints.
    1 point
  28. Sinclair is secondary here. The issue is the FCC threats. Proverbially “growing a backbone” over Sinclair et al simply further increases the likelihood of the US government putting its full weight behind those threats.
    1 point
  29. This is what I have been coming back to as I think about the situation (as I desperately try to not think about it, and have tried to stay away). Johnny, Letterman, and Leno all took their political jabs when the news of the day called for it, but the timing and the joke had to be right, and both sides were fair game for a punchline as warranted. Johnny Carson also did warn about the dangers of taking political stances in the position of a late night host. As I have reflected, the constant politics is why I've turned off late night shows. When Leno returned to the airwaves post 9/11, he equated The Tonight Show to a cookie and a glass of lemonade for a firefighter working a recovery shift in New York City- a break from all that is dark, dour, and negative around us. We all need a break from the constant news cycle and cesspool that has become the Facebook comments section. Kimmel used to do YouTube challenges that breathed new life into funny home videos, and Fallon with his sketch comedy- all were a nice end of the day break for many of us. For the record, I do not think what Kimmel said warranted the suspension- He has said worse. However, he also celebrated the cancellation of Roseanne Barr and Tucker Carlson's shows for opinions they have spewed that were deemed offensive to their detractors. I am not here to suggest what one celebrity has said is better or worse than the other- the common denominator with each is that what was said upset a faction of the public general and lead to that celebrity being sanctioned by their respective employer. The root of the issue in this thread is the quid-pro-quo at the FCC- not Kimmel, not people being upset over comments. If we really cancelled hosts for tasteless jokes, Letterman would have gotten canned for his remarks about Sarah Palin's daughter in 2009. But alas- he conceded it was a poor joke, offered an apology, and life seemed to move on. This time, however, you have the issue of Mr. Carr that has been lamented to exhaustion on this board and a station group that wants approval to continue to consume more competitors. There is your issue. At the end of the day- Kimmel, and all hosts have the ability to say what they want, and it is the viewer's choice whether or not to watch- The remote is a powerful voting tool and there's plenty of tv to watch out there. But also, as viewership declines across the genre leading to lower advertising revenue, perhaps accompanying the Backstreet Boys with Fisher Price instruments or coercing viewers to pull pranks on their family might not be that bad of an idea. Laugh emoji away...
    1 point
  30. It isn’t. Political slants aside for just a moment, it’s a challenging situation. As audiences fragment, and ad dollars follow, maintaining a viable news operation with ever-less money available, particularly in smaller and middle size markets can be challenging or outright impossible. And people howl at any cost cutting measures when they themselves are not the ones faced with the budget reality. Just look at the steady drumbeat of criticisms in thread upon thread here. The sky is falling because some organization centralized a function, or standardized graphics. They outsourced some type of content or dialed back in some other way. They don’t upgrade their set enough. They didn’t do it right when they actually do. The harsh reality is there isn’t an ability to support the quantity and quality of news operations. There’s a fine argument that one company owning too many stations in a market is a problem, but that isn’t going to magically make money appear such that another owner will be able to be profitable running a news operation. That world isn’t coming back.
    1 point
  31. Tonight, WRIC is extending their 11pm newscast to 12:37am. A small handful of other Nexstar stations are doing the same, like WSYR and KCAU.
    1 point
  32. Update: KCTV's tower is relit once more. It was just after 9 pm when it was relit. It even brought back its 1999-2002 logo on its time/temp bug with the current logo to mark the occasion. https://www.kctv5.com/2025/09/18/history-rekindled-iconic-kctv5-tower-once-again-shine-over-kansas-city/
    1 point
  33. This is never going to happen. The only ones who should be giving an apology is Disney, ABC, Nexstar, and Sinclair. Jimmy Kimmel Live's ratings surpassed NBC's The Tonight Show because he focused on politics. It might be annoying to MAGA, but MAGA has lots of other things to watch. The country is never going to unify, the right has gone way too extreme for that to ever happen.
    1 point
  34. local affiliates have been objecting to and refusing to air programming from the networks for as long as that relationship has existed. Many, at least the smart ones, have it written out in their contracts. WSVN would nuke FOX programming if it scraped into the newscast schedule, and still unilaterally decides to throw any sport that isn't an NFL game into whatever timeslot they can find, National Hot Rod Association being one of the more recent ones. And then there's WHDH, which to this day NBC blames for Jay Leno at 10pm failing, and one of the primary reasons NBC did what it did in Boston
    1 point
  35. no. The shooter is an obvious leftist. You have to be blind, deaf, dumb and a liar to claim otherwise. We can all read that savage's text and discord messages. Even me, English as third language and having failed it at 8th grade in eastern europe, can read and understand also "Charlie Kirk is a Nazi" totally something something on the right would say about Kirk which part of lying on TV while holding an FCC license was hard for you to comprehend? I thought we were supposed to battle misinformation and disable those people's social media and everything else
    1 point
  36. That right there may be the best post of the thread.
    1 point
  37. Except that “the left” didn’t have government agencies use Sopranos-level extortion (we can do this the easy way or the hard way). The boycotts from all sides get to be a bit confusing to track, but that’s basic freedom at work. Don’t want to buy/watch/patronize whoever, great. This is a whole different level.
    1 point
  38. But they are. This has been building for a long, long time. And those who saw it coming were dismissed as overreacting. It’s not just one party controlling every aspect of the government, it’s one philosophy. The governing party has largely been purged of any dissenting voices. Where once there was a diversity of views on many topics, all you have now is a couple of outliers on one or two issues who ultimately make no meaningful difference. It’s performative at most.
    1 point
  39. In that case, I've been on sites like primetime and daytime tv boards, where there are occasional (but not as persistent) rude comments and those are very quickly shut down or called out.
    1 point
  40. Yet at this moment there’s no word that Kimmel’s Millionaire show is scrapped…indicating that there’s still a door open?
    1 point
  41. I smell dictatorship… Trump really is coming for the broadcast networks ABC could get really hurt from this and they have no spine so there letting this happen to them.
    1 point
  42. I said this on the Discord, and got about the same amount of crickets as your posting.
    1 point
  43. KSAT San Antonio will NOT follow ABC's lead. Instead, the weeknight Nightbeat at 10:00 goes back to an hour for the first time since 2019. https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1229793872520385&id=100064693507876
    1 point
  44. I see Kimmel being offended by this move and quitting, and doing his own thing on maybe HBO or streaming.
    1 point
  45. Temporarily air reruns as an immediate stopgap? Good Night America? (No, I’m not serious.) Shark Tank After Dark?
    1 point
  46. Brendan Carr and all of his cronies are idiots because... ABC AND THE OTHER NETWORKS DO NOT HAVE FCC LICENSES!!! Only the stations themselves are licensed and liable for their operation. And given the sway the networks have over their affiliates, that discretion is very limited. All it takes is an oligarch like Perry Sook to make a fuss and then the network relents...
    1 point
  47. It's just insane what has happened to America's media companies. They are all a disgrace. I used to worry about the decline and cutbacks at traditional media because there is so much fake news online, but CBS, ABC, NBC, CNN, Nexstar, etc. have all decided they want to appease the far right and the far right only. They are all terrified of the far right dictator in the white house and the FCC and worried about him harming their other assets. Our media companies are as credible as the media companies in China and Russia. Jimmy Kimmel doesn't need his ABC show. He talks about leaving all the time.
    1 point
  48. Probably is off the air to facilitate the move from Detroit to Atlanta, which of course, takes time especially when you need to drive your whole life from one location to another.
    1 point
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