The problem is the only thing that's actually working in the talk show field, clear advertorial junk like The Balancing Act or The Daily Flash, is crap viewers will not go near because it screams advertorial, and ends up with awful time slots, and shows that move into segments with it have to step around a minefield. And there are still new court shows and formats being thrown in syndication, even as Judy in repeats, Judge Mathis and The People's Court are the ones that stick around.
There's also the fact that even as Kelly is doing well, it also faces obnoxious pre-emptions for press conferences and local breaking news, which seem to be increasing as stations realize that they can just say 'uh, check YouTube or Twitter, record Bravo at 3am, or just pay $5 for Peacock', something they can't do for Ellen. Some stations want the 'news' cake, and will take a bite of it, even if talk show pre-emptions are the result.
Also not helping; most of the stations where The Real ends up are the low-totem priority in a duopoly, so there was little promotion in these last seasons even as it was still going strong, and it got bumped to 4am through no fault of its own in many markets because Access Daily still has to be a thing, along with these lower-tier court shows. You don't promote shows on a MyNet affiliate or like Sinclair, bump it to a DT2 or DT3 position and then just collect the retransmission consent for a Dabl/TBD TV do-nothing schedule on the main channel, this is what's going to happen.