B2r4a6n 104 Posted February 8, 2015 Posted February 8, 2015 Being in the business since 1988 dosent make me biased...I don't work for NBC...It makes me know more about how to manage this crisis they are going through than you do!
B2r4a6n 104 Posted February 8, 2015 Posted February 8, 2015 Last thing I'll say cause I don't want to argue...Just like my previous post that you didn't read... Where in the last one did I use the work strongly?.
NYNewser_676 26 Posted February 8, 2015 Author Posted February 8, 2015 I would like to bring this thread back to meaningful discussion, so this will be my last point on this issue, but you cannot claim to be anything but "anti-Brian Williams" when you post something like this: "I look back at Brian Williams, and I don't think he was in the same class as Brokaw, Brinkley, Chancellor. I don't want to be crass, but I wonder what NBC execs were on when he was at WCBS. What made him so special for the NBC people to be gawking at the Channel 2 monitor to then capture him and then raise the pedestal to then 22 years later get knocked off, when he should've been gone decades ago." And in addition, you have not "praised," or even accepted, any other viewpoints on this thread about the issue at hand, in fact, as B2r4a6n pointed out, you referred to everyone who has not called for Williams' annihilation as "naive." I would suggest considering other people's viewpoints- there are often meaningful things to be said. EDIT: I apologize B2r4a6n, I reitierated most of your points- I'm typing on my iPhone and didn't see your most recent posts until after I submitted.
B2r4a6n 104 Posted February 8, 2015 Posted February 8, 2015 I would like to bring this thread back to meaningful discussion, so this will be my last point on this issue, but you cannot claim to be anything but "anti-Brian Williams" when you post something like this: "I look back at Brian Williams, and I don't think he was in the same class as Brokaw, Brinkley, Chancellor. I don't want to be crass, but I wonder what NBC execs were on when he was at WCBS. What made him so special for the NBC people to be gawking at the Channel 2 monitor to then capture him and then raise the pedestal to then 22 years later get knocked off, when he should've been gone decades ago." And in addition, you have not "praised," or even accepted, any other viewpoints on this thread about the issue at hand, in fact, as B2r4a6n pointed out, you referred to everyone who has not called for Williams' annihilation as "naive." I would suggest considering other people's viewpoints- there are often meaningful things to be said. EDIT: I apologize B2r4a6n, I reitierated most of your points- I'm typing on my iPhone and didn't see your most recent posts until after I submitted. No problem, thank you NYNewser... P.S... I enjoy reading your Twitter!... Good day!
cbs2newengland 72 Posted February 8, 2015 Posted February 8, 2015 I would like to bring this thread back to meaningful discussion, so this will be my last point on this issue, but you cannot claim to be anything but "anti-Brian Williams" when you post something like this: "I look back at Brian Williams, and I don't think he was in the same class as Brokaw, Brinkley, Chancellor. I don't want to be crass, but I wonder what NBC execs were on when he was at WCBS. What made him so special for the NBC people to be gawking at the Channel 2 monitor to then capture him and then raise the pedestal to then 22 years later get knocked off, when he should've been gone decades ago." And in addition, you have not "praised," or even accepted, any other viewpoints on this thread about the issue at hand, in fact, as B2r4a6n pointed out, you referred to everyone who has not called for Williams' annihilation as "naive." I would suggest considering other people's viewpoints- there are often meaningful things to be said. EDIT: I apologize B2r4a6n, I reitierated most of your points- I'm typing on my iPhone and didn't see your most recent posts until after I submitted. I'm not trying to name call anybody, I thought it was FAIR statement for someone being somewhat asleep on the wheel encouraging distraction such as the Grammys to sweep what some of you (to paraphrase) are treating this as non major story or action for that matter. I'm actually having problems posting, I think my ISP is blocking TVNT. I guess these will be my last words for now.
NYNewser_676 26 Posted February 8, 2015 Author Posted February 8, 2015 No problem, thank you NYNewser... P.S... I enjoy reading your Twitter!... Good day! Thank you!
mountainave 618 Posted February 8, 2015 Posted February 8, 2015 Guys, seriously. Let's not make this personal. It's about Brian and NBC News, not us.
alex979 119 Posted February 8, 2015 Posted February 8, 2015 FWIW... "NBC Sources: This Was Not Williams' Decision" http://www.ftvlive.com/todays-news/2015/2/7/nbc-sources-this-was-not-williams-decision
jrh1985 57 Posted February 8, 2015 Posted February 8, 2015 FWIW... "NBC Sources: This Was Not Williams' Decision" http://www.ftvlive.com/todays-news/2015/2/7/nbc-sources-this-was-not-williams-decision Doesn't look good for Brian. I wonder if everyone at NBC is saying that he should go. If Turness has the guts to let Brian go, I wonder if someone could tell her to start looking at TWC when they chose longform over severe coverage. Lester was on tonight. Will he work tomorrow and start Monday?
nynewslover 283 Posted February 8, 2015 Posted February 8, 2015 NBC has to be careful. Either way they're gonna piss someone off (by keeping him or letting him go) The more that comes out the more likely it is he wont be around too much longer. One question... With the Today show not doing its best.. And wanting to try something new.. Do you think they'll move Lauer up to NN and bring in someone for Today Show? This way people who like him will watch at night now and maybe some will watch in the mornings since he's not there? Just a thought.
B2r4a6n 104 Posted February 8, 2015 Posted February 8, 2015 NBC has to be careful. Either way they're gonna piss someone off (by keeping him or letting him go) The more that comes out the more likely it is he wont be around too much longer. One question... With the Today show not doing its best.. And wanting to try something new.. Do you think they'll move Lauer up to NN and bring in someone for Today Show? This way people who like him will watch at night now and maybe some will watch in the mornings since he's not there? Just a thought. I would say that at this point anyone but Lester is a mistake...Lester is the only one that would be able to keep Brian's audience... I don't think Matt would be a good fit since he's rarley ever anchored NN and I don't think many people will follow Matt...One piece of interesting news I have noticed is that ever since he announced he is taking off a few hours ago, people are starting to come out and support him on social media saying if he goes they go...This is what NBC has to look at while he's away(besides his reporting), which is that if he stays who will still watch him and if he goes who will go and vise versa....Many people making are making the argument that if Dr. Nancy, who put people in danger can survive so can he...time will tell...
MorningNews 1711 Posted February 8, 2015 Posted February 8, 2015 Lester Holt is next in line for the NN chair, not sure why it's even being debated.
nynewslover 283 Posted February 8, 2015 Posted February 8, 2015 Lester Holt is next in line for the NN chair, not sure why it's even being debated. Who debated it? No one ever questioned it. Others and myself just threw out other suggestions.
24994J 5890 Posted February 8, 2015 Posted February 8, 2015 It is a shame that if she fires him, Turness' head might be on the chopping block. ...There are sooooooo many other reasons why she should be canned. At the end of all of this, I'd be stunned, absolutely floored if World News Tonight isn't leading all (week-to-week) ratings categories by the end of the month. I'm curious as to who will take sweeps, as stranger things have happened.
alex979 119 Posted February 8, 2015 Posted February 8, 2015 Now, FNC's Howard Kurtz has a source who says that Williams' leave of absence was voluntary, and wasn't forced upon him by the bosses as FTVLive said. Also, and this is the kicker, this source says Williams is NOT under investigation by NBC. So, basically, no one knows what the f**k is going on. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/02/07/brian-williams-does-not-face-investigation-stepped-aside-voluntarily-source/
TVNewsLover 861 Posted February 8, 2015 Posted February 8, 2015 Lester Holt is next in line for the NN chair, not sure why it's even being debated. The obvious choice. Just as George was for ABC WNT. And we see how that ended up!
B2r4a6n 104 Posted February 8, 2015 Posted February 8, 2015 Interesting, Howard Kurtz's article paints a more optimistic picture for Williams...Most interesting is the Letterman apperence...I would say if he can go on and look the American people in the eye and have a real honest conversation with Dave I say go for it...If he's going to recite more pre written apologies that will make things worse than obviously not...that's up to his judgement to decide.
Geoffrey 960 Posted February 8, 2015 Posted February 8, 2015 I think this situation is worse than the Dan Rather mess. While Rather's error was more meaningful (it was against the president), he truly believed in the story. In this case, Brian Williams told a lie about his own experience. He knew it couldn't have been true. He was there. He originally reported it correctly and then it became a "fish tale," getting bigger each time. And it's not even like this story just got bigger. But there's evidence that people inside NBC had recently told Williams to knock it off with this story, and yet he repeated it on own broadcast last week (which begs the question: why did NBC even allow him to report it??). So it's not like this is simply a case of his memory betraying him. And I think the reason this hurts so much is that the lie was so meaningless. He had nothing to gain and everything to lose. Is he a good reporter? Sure. Shouldn't he get a second chance? I don't know. Brian Williams' brand is trust and credibility. Lying about having been attacked by an RPG for the purpose of more attention amounts to stolen valor. His credibility is shot. It will be impossible to watch him without thinking about That Time He Lied. This piece does a good job of explaining why this is so big: http://www.aljazeera.com/blogs/2015/02/brian-williams-mythology-memory-ego-150206214404326.html Does Brian Williams return from his supposedly self-imposed hiatus? Will they take his name off the broadcast? We will see. If I had to bet (good thing I don't!), I'd probably bet on him losing his job over this, whether it's in the next few days or weeks.
BehindNYNews 147 Posted February 8, 2015 Posted February 8, 2015 This is ABC's chance to beat NBC out right. If I were them I would be on an advertising blitz this week to get people on their side.
jmkcool2002 8 Posted February 8, 2015 Posted February 8, 2015 Possible Brian Williams destination if he leaves? NASCAR. He's a huge fan and they're continuing to spread their media reach on TV and online. They could use a host like Williams for big interviews, documentaries and news reports on the sport.
Mannym13 15 Posted February 8, 2015 Posted February 8, 2015 TODAY just mentioned Brian's email, and the fact he's stepping aside for the next few days. It was just a 15-20 second news story that Sheinelle Jones read and was without any sort of commentary from anybody else. This is the first second mention of anything Williams related on NBC since he apologized on Wednesday.
24994J 5890 Posted February 8, 2015 Posted February 8, 2015 Not quite. It was mentioned on all 3 network newscasts last night.
Mannym13 15 Posted February 8, 2015 Posted February 8, 2015 Not quite. It was mentioned on all 3 network newscasts last night. Then I did not catch that on Nightly yesterday
nynewslover 283 Posted February 8, 2015 Posted February 8, 2015 Lester Holt will be in on weekdays until further notice according to the report on GMA this morning
ToriElectra 293 Posted February 8, 2015 Posted February 8, 2015 And all this is why I stick with Scott Pelley and the CBS Evening News: not big on fluff, no scandals, more serious, actual news.
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